your steak knife uses steel that was originally developed for military purposes, clearly you need to go back to napping stone again.
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your steak knife uses steel that was originally developed for military purposes, clearly you need to go back to napping stone again.
Viagra was designed as a heart medication, not a treatment for erectile dysfunction.
Astroglide was designed as a coolant for space vehicles, not a sexual lubricant.
Bubblewrap was orignally designed as wallpaper, not packing.
Slinkys were designed as stabilizers for naval equipment, not kids' toys.
Exactly what does their current usage have to do with their original designated purpose?
Nothing.......the same as modern hunting and target pistols have nothing to do with their military origins.
And I never ignore history.
police officers use military firearms to serve and protect, I think only a shit head idiot like CC would imply that they should stop because the firearms were designed to kill.
That came after. These things weren't just "cooked up". Your handgun designs date from a hundred years ago or even earlier. WWI accelerated the development of all sorts of weapons that we think are "modern". Your firearms are all updates of military designs from way, way, WAY back with the possible exception of shotguns ... and maybe that one, also.
I suppose that you're going to tell me that crossbows were developed in the 20th century for deer hunting.
I knew that.
Kidding.
Your information was completely new to me. It's not like I knew it once, and it slipped my mind.
My info that the .303 was 7.62 x 49 was totally wrong. I can't remember where I got it.
So I'm smarter now than I was this morning.
Thanks!
I also realize that the Colt 1911 was far from the first automatic. The first was the Schönberger-Laumann in 1892, but even the Luger is older than the 1911, first produced in 1898.
But I know for damn sure that 2019-1892 does not = 200 by a long chalk.
You are supporting a logical fallacy.Your logical fallacy places excessive and undue importance on the historical purpose.
Lets take warfarin for example. It was originally designed as a rat poison, now it is used to save lives.
The success and effectiveness of warfarin as a life saving drug for stroke victims is based on it's attributes not its past purpose. Full stop. You should read this several times, eventually you will understand it.
If we applied your logic to warfarin, then warfarin's historical purpose makes it unsuitable for saving lives. And,we all know that you would be wrong and ignorant to say such a thing.
I submit that you are attempting to take a stance on a trivial matter of 100years vs 200years, when in fact I was mocking you at how old the technology is. Now if the technology was only 2 years old instead of the 200 yrs old that I originally stated, then you might have a point.
Hand guns were originally designed for the use of soldiers in battlefield close combat. .... not for the Police, Brinks security guards or hobby wankers in safe rich North American places.
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lol you sure have revised that into a truncated worthless post that doesn't make the point that you want to make.
cant follow what? you made that last post of yours so short, it doesn't express what you want it to express.
There are a bunch of 7.62 mm cartridges, the 7.62 x 51 NATO is only one of them. And it is .308 Winchester.
Yep. Further to that, the 7.62 just means .30 calibre. It comes in a variety of lengths. The Soviets used 39mm for the SKS and KA-74 (which we for some reason call the AK-47) and 54 for the Dragunov and similar long-range rifles.
The Europeans settled on 51mm for their standard battle rifle. It's a fast, accurate cartridge, light enough to carry 100 rounds, ball heavy enough to cut through moving air. European snipers, however, are increasingly adopting the .338 Lapua.
The 63mm is the classic American .30-06 used in the bolt-action Springfields of WWI and the M1 Garand of WWII. It's still very popular as a medium hunting round.
The even older .30-30 is a lever-action round. The primary drawback of the .30-06 is that it's too long to work well in lever-actions.
Personal opinion: Having shot them all (except the .303), I find the .308 or 7.62 x 51 to be the best all-around .30 caliber ammo.
Most of NATO chose it for their standard infantry rifles, 'cept the Muricans.
Actually, that is incorrect.
The British had designed a bullpup style rifle in a new mid-range .280 (7mm) cartridge in 1951, no less. The rifle/round were accepted by the British army, but was cancelled by Churchill in favour of NATO standardization, with the 7mm cartridge in the competition.
The idiot American in charge of choosing a new US cartridge insisted the 7mm was insufficient and not powerful enough.............and only a full power .30 (as in the 7.62 x 51) would be accepted by the Americans. As standardization was dependent on accepting the same cartridge as the USA.........NATO followed suit, despite very good reviews on the 7mm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle
Ten years later the USA went to 5.56, a much less powerful round than the Brit 7mm. A missed opportunity.
The 7.62 x 51 is entirely an American invention, and was adopted solely on their insistance.
You are ignoring history.
I like the 5.56 x 45. It takes advantage of the subtle military fact that f*cking up a guy is better than killing him, because you occupy two of his buddies in dragging him off the battlefield.Actually, that is incorrect.
The British had designed a bullpup style rifle in a new mid-range .280 (7mm) cartridge in 1951, no less. The rifle/round were accepted by the British army, but was cancelled by Churchill in favour of NATO standardization, with the 7mm cartridge in the competition.
The idiot American in charge of choosing a new US cartridge insisted the 7mm was insufficient and not powerful enough.............and only a full power .30 (as in the 7.62 x 51) would be accepted by the Americans. As standardization was dependent on accepting the same cartridge as the USA.........NATO followed suit, despite very good reviews on the 7mm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle
Ten years later the USA went to 5.56, a much less powerful round than the Brit 7mm. A missed opportunity.
The 7.62 x 51 is entirely an American invention, and was adopted solely on their insistance.
You are ignoring history.