Canada-China Crisis

Dixie Cup

Senate Member
Sep 16, 2006
5,723
3,597
113
Edmonton
Britain seeing the light.
The United Kingdom has decided to allow Huawei’s 5G equipment into its national rollouts to a degree—the gear is banned from core parts of the British communications network, where it could pose a particularly acute spying risk.
The move is another blow to the United States’s campaign to pressure its allies into shunning Huawei’s 5G equipment. The campaign seems to have proven particularly unsuccessful in Europe, where both Germany and Poland have also declined to block Huawei-based deployments. In Southeast Asia, too, Huawei equipment will be used in 5G rollouts in countries such as Thailand and Malaysia.
The U.S. has since late last year been on something of an anti-Huawei crusade, with the main rationale being fears over Chinese state spying—China has a law requiring companies to support its intelligence work, and Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei once worked as a tech researcher for the People’s Liberation Army. Huawei denies it poses any such risk.
more
http://fortune.com/2019/04/24/us-huawei-ban-uk/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral



Canada's intelligence community also warned the Trudeau gov't not to allow Huawei's 5G equipment in Canada as it was a security risk but the gov't ignored it and all major communication companies are now using it. So, if there is a security issue, it's too late for us now! I also believe Australia and a few other countries have decided to forego using this equipment as well.
 

Danbones

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 23, 2015
24,505
2,197
113
Just like the government knew about the money laundering but let that continue till the Chinese economy started to implode.

Bill majcher - explosive info explaining world governments from behind the scenes

"The bad guys have all the money and no rules, the good guys have all the rules and no money."
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/showthread.php?t=162175

You won't want to miss this show - tonight we welcome Bill Majcher. Bill is a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police Inspector with almost 35 years of professional and operational experience.

Early in his career he left the high paying world of a Euro-Bond trader in London, to pursue a more adventurous life that saw him working covertly for over two decades conducting drug and money laundering transactions with all manner of criminals and terrorists alike.

Bill today has used his experience and is the Founder of EMIDR Limited, a Hong Kong based Asset Recovery firm that specializes in working with governments to track down and locate billions of dollars that are stolen due to government corruption and malfeasance.
 

Danbones

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 23, 2015
24,505
2,197
113
How can Leftie ask for answers...............................................


if he does not understand the questions?????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buddy, in case you didn't know, Avro here is a barred tard who just can't stay away and keeps coming back with yet another knitting needle stuck in his toboggan's frontal lobes.
;)
like Einstein is reported to have said about "repetition"...
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
9,296
4
36
Were the communist party in Soviets then you is racial but you never want tell us and I was techno music did listen right now in mothers house.




You are too confused to understand.................................


just how confused you really are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like you are a walking.........................


talking...........................................


public INDICTMENT...................................


of LIE-beralimmigration policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
9,296
4
36
Canada's intelligence community also warned the Trudeau gov't not to allow Huawei's 5G equipment in Canada as it was a security risk but the gov't ignored it and all major communication companies are now using it. So, if there is a security issue, it's too late for us now! I also believe Australia and a few other countries have decided to forego using this equipment as well.




She says "a few other countries have decided to forego Huawei 5G technology"...........................................


translation: ALL NATO COUNTRIES EXCEPT CANADA..............................


have either BANNED Huawei -such as Britain............................


or they have FORCED HEAVY MODIFICATIONS to the kind and amount of Huawei gear...................................


that may be installed in NATO countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If Our idiot Boy Justin gets RE-ELECTED in October.......................................


then look for Canada to become EVEN MORE ESTRANGED............................................


from its former NATO ALLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if idiot Boy remains in charge.....................................


THEN FORGET any ratification of NAFTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is an article illustrating the pervasive influence of Red Chinese spies and their industrial espionage!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Indicted McGill professor was caught in broad, controversial U.S. dragnet of Chinese-background scientists

By Tom Blackwell National Post.

Published July 12, 2019.

The U.S. criminal indictment against Canadian Ishiang Shih grabs attention. It is not everyday, after all, that a professor at a prestigious university is charged with illegally exporting advanced technology to China.

(But IT IS ALMOST DAILY that Yankees complain about Red China and its systematic campaign of industrial espionage!! Red China steals everything that is not nailed down!! From bootleg Michael Jackson videos to information on advanced metallurgy for building more reliable jet engines for Chinese fighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

But the now-retired McGill faculty member is just one among numerous scientists of Chinese descent caught up recently in a controversial American dragnet, its goal to combat economic espionage by Beijing.

(That such a dragnet is considered “controversial” in Ottawa is NO SURPRISE!! LIE-berals have been happily promoting cozy relations with Red China in preference to safer relations with Yankees- whom LIE-berals DESPISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Researchers for private companies and universities have been charged with various crimes, as well as non-Chinese intelligence agents and civil servants. Others have been fired summarily. One Washington, D.C. lawyer says he represents three-dozen Chinese-American scientists who have been charged or put under suspicion by federal authorities.

(Yes- national security issues are such a pesky nuisance!! But watching as Western companies GET ROBBED of the benefits of their research by Red Chinese thieves is not something LIE-berals should be comfortable about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The U.S. Justice Department, which concentrated its efforts on the issue by launching a new “China Initiative” last year, says it’s trying to combat Beijing’s s well-documented campaign to acquire foreign technological secrets by any means.

Some prominent critics, however, suggest America’s trade war with China has propelled police on a witch hunt against east-Asian researchers.

(Yes- LIE-berals are NOTORIOUS for their support of the Beijing Butchers!! Our very own Pierre Trudeau is the POSTER BOY for such vile discrimination!! Pierre PUBLICLY WROTE of what he called “the genius of Chairman Mao in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Yes- Our Pierre EXTOLLED THE VIRTUE of Red Chinese MASS MURDER of Political Prisoners!! And for his part - Our idiot Boy Justin has told us “he likes the way the Chinese get things done”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“In managing these risks, we must take great care not to create a toxic atmosphere of unfounded suspicion and fear,” Massachusetts Institute of Technology president Rafael Reif wrote in an open letter last month.

(How sad that ALL institutions of higher learning are now recognized as being totally infested with Left Wing Demagogues working diligently to poison the minds of their students on behalf of Beijing and Tehran and Moscow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“Yet faculty members, post-docs, research staff and students tell me that, in their dealings with government agencies, they now feel unfairly scrutinized, stigmatized and on edge – because of their Chinese ethnicity alone.”

A Chinese American academic who was earlier charged with sending secrets to China – then cleared because agents misunderstood the nature of his work – is suing the U.S. government, helped by the American Civil Liberties Union.

“I think what is wrong is to single out a particular ethnic group for surveillance and prosecution,” Xiaoxing Xi, the former physics department chair at Philadelphia’s Temple University, said in an interview Thursday. “That is racial profiling.”

(Ah yes- the LIE-beral EXCUSE - that facilitates Red Chinese Espionage!! If govt were searching for Nazis in 1942- would they mainly look at Germans?? Is it racial profiling OR COMMON SENSE to look first and foremost at the people and groups who are most likely to be at the heart of the problem!! LIE-berals WILL NOT answer such a question because they do not wish to reveal their anti Western values to a disgusted public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Socialists are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that their vile system works!! In spite of MASSIVE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY!! LIE-beral Socialists are convinced that any problem is merely the result of a bad leader- LIE-berals refuse to accept the system wide faults of Socialism- even in spite of the disaster currently unfolding in oil rich and hard core Socialist Venezuela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

U.S. seeks to extradite McGill professor accused of conspiring to send technology to China

Terry Glavin: It's official – China is a threat to Canada's national security
Spy agency bluntly warns 'Canada remains a target' of cybertheft and espionage from Russia and China.

(OF COURSE such a conclusion is LOGICAL!! If we want our Cdn economy to work with and profit along with Yankees - then we must be connected in various ways- and Soviet spies have LONG REGARDED Canada as an easy side door entry to United States- after all everybody likes Cdns don’t they?? But that was then meaning BEFORE LIE-berals threw open the immigration gates to all manner of suspect persons -with NO SECURITY CHECKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(National security in Canada is SO BAD that Our idiot Boy Justin imported 60,000 Muslims - mostly from Syria - based on the recommendation of HAMAS TERRORISTS- who were running the refugee camps the Syrians came from!! It is clear Our idiot Boy TRUSTS the Muslim terrorists- after all he has been sending CANADIAN AID to Hamas terrorists since he was elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And some people wonder why Yankees are HOSTILE to Our idiot Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
In Canada, meanwhile, the RCMP says it has no country-specific investigation program, while universities report they are working with China to their “mutual benefit.”

(OH yes- just as in Australia and New Zealand- the Chinese Soviets offer all sorts of gifts and grants - that open doors for them and allow Chinese to INFLUENCE foreign govts!! Otherwise WHY would China be the chief sponsor of the annual meeting of British Columbia municipal mayors?? What is in it for China other than a chance to whisper propaganda into willing Cdn ears????????????????? )

Yet there is certainly widespread consensus that China often uses illegal methods to acquire technology developed elsewhere, for military use or to give domestic companies a competitive leg-up.

(Yes- it is easy to build consensus IF THERE IS PROOF!! Chinese espionage is relentless and ongoing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trump administration officials have been blunt in describing the threat they perceive from the research community.

FBI offices across the U.S. see evidence China uses “non-traditional collectors” of such intelligence, including Chinese students, professors and scientists, FBI Director Christopher Wray told a congressional hearing last year.

(Beijing long ago made it clear that ALL people of Chinese background would be expected to aid Red China in any fashion deemed necessary!! So some help out of personal beliefs and some help OUT OF FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(It is no coincidence that an Australian who wrote a book about pervasive Chinese influence in his country COULD NOT FIND AN AUSTRALIAN PUBLISHER- after Chinese influence was applied!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“I think the level of naivete on the part of the academic sector about this creates its own issues,” he said. “They’re exploiting the very open research and development environment that we have, which we all revere, but they’re taking advantage of it.”

(The academic sector has a wildly naive view of world affairs!! The idea that a well liked COLLEAGUE could be a TRAITOR is hard for such people to believe!!!!!!!!)

Montreal’s Shih was indicted last year along with brother Yi-Chi – a fellow electrical engineer who has worked at UCLA – with conspiring to send advanced computer chips to China, contrary to export restrictions. Yi-Chi was convicted recently, and a source said the U.S. has asked Canada to extradite Ishiang, who retired from McGill last year.

(China systematically sends out specially skilled people to seek information China desires - as part of a long term plan to build up the Chinese economy at western expense!! Chinese policy is ECONOMIC WARFARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

But the California-based brother’s lawyer said the case was a “tragic” miscarriage of justice that saw the jury deprived of key evidence. Yi-Chi had designed the chip himself, and the American company whose design tools he used actually has a large operation – and half its workforce – in China.

(And the case illustrates the SLIPPERY SLOPE of substantial collaboration with the Beijing Butchers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Broader concerns are being raised about the idea of going after researchers of one race, and the nature of many of the prosecutions to date.

(There is NO NEED to go after British researchers- after all they have demonstrated they CAN BE TRUSTED!! It is Chinese SPIES who are suspect for good reason!!!!
LIE-berals cry about ethnic profiling and DENY there is common sense and logic in police investigations into specific groups since successful prosecutions make wide open LIE-beral immigration policy LOOK BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Peter Zeidenberg, a Washington, D.C. lawyer who represented Xi, said agents have completely misconstrued the science and reached wrong conclusions in a “very large percentage” of the three-dozen or so such cases he’s taken on.

(RED China IS challenging the West in multiple areas- NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH is in the military arena!! China presents a BELLIGERENT Face to rhe world which greatly disturbs Yankees - and worries anybody else with common sense!!!!!!!!)
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
9,296
4
36
Buddy, in case you didn't know, Avro here is a barred tard who just can't stay away and keeps coming back with yet another knitting needle stuck in his toboggan's frontal lobes.
;)
like Einstein is reported to have said about "repetition"...




I have been thinking that ridicule is kind of amusing..........................................


but from what you say it is not an effective deterrent..........................................


oh well....................................................


what do you suppose is his purpose in producing such incoherent drivel???????????????????

 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
9,296
4
36






Cdn farmers are upset about a possible Yankee trade deal.................................


that will shut out Cdns??????????????????????


Oh dear me....................................


this is yet another example of how LIE-berals put their own PREJUDICES..............................................


AHEAD of Cdn national interests !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin is an aspiring SOVIET style Dictator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


His handling of the Lavalin mess is simply the most egregious example of his arrogance and bigotry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy is such an arrogant ignorant hard core



SOCIALIST BOOB..............................


that he is prepared to damage the Cdn economy..................


and even break the law as LAVALIN SHOWS................



just to try to maintain his hold on power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The worst of it is that on the August 14, Toronto evening news........................................


Our idiot Boy looked into the news cameras and told us this: "That he would NOT apologize for defending good Cdn jobs"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The arrogant BUFFOON HAS NO INTENTION OF ADMITTING HE EVER DID ANYTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy is so ENTITLED that he is apparently UNABLE TO COMPREHEND that he did anything wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The moral compass of Our idiot Boy is SO DAMAGED.......................................


he has offered us the Same Excuse as Yankee President Richard Nixon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nixon infamously defended his Watergate CRIME by telling people that as president HE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently Our idiot Boy is CLAIMING THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy feels SO ENTITLED ........................................


that he THINKS HE CAN IGNORE OR BREAK LAWS..............................................


JUST SO LONG AS HE AND HIS PALS GET THE GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And isnt it FUNNY How our Cdn news media PROTECT the idiot Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the 6pm news Trudope was shown stating he would not apologize for "defending good Cdn jobs"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But in later clips -THAT STATEMENT WAS NOT PLAYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently somebody pointed out that Trudope was using the ALREADY DISGRACED NIXON DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Serryah

Executive Branch Member
Dec 3, 2008
8,973
2,071
113
New Brunswick
Don't see why Justin is being so provocative..........as opposed to intelligently diplomatic.

This tit for tat BS is just childish.


If you look at what just happened to the US, it's a perfect example of why tit for tat doesn't work.

China KNOWS it's needed in most economies now, there's no real getting around it anymore.


I wish it wasn't that way because IMO we need to drop China as a possible ANYTHING - resource, partner, ally - right now and not look back until it changes a LOT of it's policies and regulations.

But it won't go that way now, because they're in, they're in the game now in Canada. And we're letting them get deeper. They do have us by the balls and they're twisting, asking what we're gonna do.
 

Hoid

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 15, 2017
20,408
3
36
The problem we have with China is China's ability to kneecap our only major trading partner - the USA
 

Ocean Breeze

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 5, 2005
18,362
60
48
If you look at what just happened to the US, it's a perfect example of why tit for tat doesn't work.

China KNOWS it's needed in most economies now, there's no real getting around it anymore.


I wish it wasn't that way because IMO we need to drop China as a possible ANYTHING - resource, partner, ally - right now and not look back until it changes a LOT of it's policies and regulations.

But it won't go that way now, because they're in, they're in the game now in Canada. And we're letting them get deeper. They do have us by the balls and they're twisting, asking what we're gonna do.
interesting that we let them have that much control.....and so quickly........and in quite a subtle way.

they plan far ahead......and "today" in their terms , is just a blip in the overall scheme of things.
 

Ocean Breeze

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 5, 2005
18,362
60
48
The problem we have with China is China's ability to kneecap our only major trading partner - the USA
CDA must broaden its horizons and expand the number of trading partners. Can't put all the eggs in one basket.......as it leaves one vulnerable can no longer assume that the "special " relationship with the US will exist as it did......... Things have changed and not in a positive way. The "change" comes from the south.....
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
26,634
6,977
113
B.C.
CDA must broaden its horizons and expand the number of trading partners. Can't put all the eggs in one basket.......as it leaves one vulnerable can no longer assume that the "special " relationship with the US will exist as it did......... Things have changed and not in a positive way. The "change" comes from the south.....
You and your company are free to trade wherever it can . Are you not Canadian ?