Tesla to cut thousands of jobs as Elon Musk warns the ‘road ahead is very difficult’

Jinentonix

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lol ya tesla isn't making it
Once again you gloss over the salient point. It can't make it without subsidies. Meanwhile you whine about the bailing out of auto makers while cheer-leading continued subsidizing of an auto maker.
 

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As long as Tesla has to play these games, including billions in taxpayers subsidies, he is just proving that electric cars can't make it.
Especially since they can't deliver the cars they took deposits on. Will the taxpayer subsidies cover all the lawsuits?
 

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Once again you gloss over the salient point. It can't make it without subsidies. Meanwhile you whine about the bailing out of auto makers while cheer-leading continued subsidizing of an auto maker.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-wont-solve-fiat-chryslers-problem-for-long-11554734539

Fiat Chrysler is giving Tesla hundreds of millions for a band aid fix.

Regulatory burdens are going to be a major obstacle for any car maker that isn't going electric in a big way
 

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-wont-solve-fiat-chryslers-problem-for-long-11554734539
Fiat Chrysler is giving Tesla hundreds of millions for a band aid fix.
With the $1.5 billion in loans that Groper forgave FC, it's basically Canadian taxpayers that are giving hundreds of millions to Tesla. And with all the f*cking pissing and moaning you've done about Harper and auto industry bail outs, you STILL have nothing to say about Groper forgiving $5.7 billion in loans to FC and GM. Can you say 'partisan shit pump'? I know you can.
Regulatory burdens are going to be a major obstacle for any car maker that isn't going electric in a big way
You're still proving the point. Tesla can't survive without constant govt intervention. Whether it's subsidies or new regulatory burdens regarding ICE powered vehicles.
 

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Loans that Groper (Trudeau?) gave Fiat?

That money came from Harper (pear-shaped loser).
 

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Let the hobby guys have the industry for a decade making bikes that need no insurance and no permit to operate. The 'people's car' with only 2 or 3 wheels and an umbrella that is also a solar battery charger. Charge!!
 

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and to GM and to Ford

all the big car makers getting yet another government subsidy
 

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The loans were given to Fiat by Harper
And Groper FORGAVE the loans. You DO understand the difference between a loan and a gift, right? Harper loaned the money, Groper said f*ck the loans, this one is on the Canadian taxpayer. And here, since you absolutely HATE links that show how little you know about anything, here's some more on the story.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lo...uto-sector-bailout-2009-gm-chrysler-1.4722529

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/lib...-including-2-6-billion-to-automaker-1.4144249

https://driving.ca/chrysler/auto-ne...t-writes-off-2-6-billion-bailout-for-chrysler

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/rep...n-2009-bailout-of-auto-firms/article23828543/

Then again, there's probably no point in posting those links until you go back to school and learn the difference between a gift and a loan.
 

Jinentonix

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Oh look, more proof that EV's cant make it without bail-outs. And before you try and argue that it's not a bail-out let me remind you of an argument YOU put forth in the thread about Groper bailing out the media. You stated that my tax credits are the same thing as the bail out the media got.

Can't wait to see you argue against yourself on this one. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Groper bailing out the media.

Refresh my memory.

As far as the tax incentives go all I can do is lol

They just keep making those EVs more attractive.
 

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I would suggest you read those links slowly for understanding.

Those loans were so poorly structured by the Harper government that they were unrecoverable.

And I am trying to figure out how all this free money to all these auto makers somehow invalidates tax incentives for Evs.

The white natty mind is a puzzle
 

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To be accurate he did no get back the money given to it by Harper.
 

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If it was a loan to be paid back to the people of Canada and Trudeau forgave the loan then yes, he gave the money away and is MCGA.