Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Curious Cdn

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Just as a clarification, doctors here do not work for the state. They work for themselves and bill the state for their time. Depending on what their specialty is, they may also bill you directly or bill whatever supplemental extra insurance you may carry. The Socialist part is that no one is denied some level of treatment (unless our extreme geography makes it impossible) and the billing is covered by levied taxes.

Lots of procedures are considered to be elective here and are not paid for "collectively". Physiotherapy is mostly user-funded here in Ontario. My wife wants surgery on the varicose veins in her legs but we pay unless they are proven to be life-threatening.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Just as a clarification, doctors here do not work for the state. They work for themselves and bill the state for their time. Depending on what their specialty is, they may also bill you directly or bill whatever supplemental extra insurance you may carry. The Socialist part is that no one is denied some level of treatment (unless our extreme geography makes it impossible) and the billing is covered by levied taxes.
Lots of procedures are considered to be elective here and are not paid for "collectively". Physiotherapy is mostly user-funded here in Ontario. My wife wants surgery on the varicose veins in her legs but we pay unless they are proven to be life-threatening.
Thank you for the clarification (I was aware of it), but I would suggest that if a single entity pays all or most of your income, it effectively owns you.

Here in the U.S., I laugh at the government contractors whose only customer is the government, and get called "private enterprise" by the Fox dupes.
 

Curious Cdn

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Thank you for the clarification (I was aware of it), but I would suggest that if a single entity pays all or most of your income, it effectively owns you.
Here in the U.S., I laugh at the government contractors whose only customer is the government, and get called "private enterprise" by the Fox dupes.
I guess that Aetna owns a lot of you-all.
 

spilledthebeer

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Interesting that Canada has passed a number of significant gun control measures since 1991.

Solid proof they are working.




HOID YOU GET MORE DELUSIONAL BY THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto is going through RECORD numbers of firearm related criminal events!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In B.C. the gangs there have apparently either run out of ammunition or are getting better at HIDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In any case there are currently less gunfire related crimes out west.................................


and that has NOTHING TO DO with LIE-beral efforts ar crime control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Privy Council Clerk and LIE-beral boot licker Michael Wernick gave us his view of the LIE-beral future when he started talking about
the potential for assassinations and civil unrest and what sounds basically like civil war in Canada - during his testimony on Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals KNOW their poisoned immigration policies and their preferential treatment of loud mouth bigoted special interest groups is BREEDING UNREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals KNOW they are damaging the economy and driving people to desperation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-berals DO NOT CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are DESPERATE to turn us all into wards of the state because such dependent subjects are EASIER TO BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals also seek to disarm the public so we cannot fight among ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals ATTACK licenced hunters and law abiding gun owners because LIE-berals are seeking to BUY VOTES from PETA and other lunatic animal rights groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





LIE-berals HAVE NO INTENTION of doing anything effective about crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider::::






Here is yet another article illustrating how little interest LIE-berals have in taking any real action against criminals in Canada! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto police scrap plans to acquire controversial gunshot-detection system

CBC/Radio-Canada

Published Feb 14, 2019

Toronto police have scrapped a plan to acquire a controversial piece of technology that picks up the sound of gunfire and reports it to front line officers over concerns it could violate Charter rights.

A Toronto police spokesperson confirmed to CBC Toronto that a plan to purchase the ShotSpotter system, touted last summer by Mayor John Tory as a way to help curb gun violence in the city, has been shelved.

ShotSpotter, which has been used at times by nearly 100 U.S. cities, detects loud sounds, filters them to determine whether they are gunfire and, if they are, forwards a report to police.

But the provincial Ministry of the Attorney General expressed concerns that the technology may violate residents' Charter rights pertaining to unreasonable search and seizure.

(Oh right! And WHOSE RIGHTS will be violated by cops getting reports of gunfire? We should ask if the prime LIE-beral focus is to AVOID having certain neighbourhoods condemned even further by having an ACCURATE count of the number of gun incidents occurring there?)

(WE know that TCHC -not so affordable housing - holds a very small portion of the Toronto population - yet it is the site of LARGE NUMBERS of criminal incidents! It seems LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit that their immigration policy is a DISMAL FAILURE as it has allowed into Canada so very many people who have NO HOPE of succeeding in Canada due to language and educational limitations and just plain crap attitudes to white society!!!!!!!!)

(We should assume that LIE-berals want to HIDE the true number of gun incidents as yet another LIE-beral way of manipulating crime statistics! LIE-berals claim they use plea bargaining to free up costly court time- but the real result is to plea bargain major crimes into minor ones and to make minor crimes disappear entirely so that LIE-beral policy looks less poisoned - plea bargaining aids LIE-berals in HIDING how badly their law and immigrartion policies are FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Tory was a vocal proponent of the ShotSpotter technology last summer as the city dealt with a spike in gun violence. Toronto also had a record year for homicides in 2018 with 96.

(Yes -Tory is the Classic LIE-beral! Talk tough until the public outrage subsides a little and then shelve any logical action that might expose LIE-berals as anti white bigots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Earlier in the year, Tory announced a $15 million "gun violence reduction plan" that included a larger police presence in what he called "high-priority areas."

(In other words LIE-berals are partly restoring cop staffing levels in hope that lame effort will curb public complaints! LIE-berals are hoping we WILL NOT ASK about things like plea bargaining, lax bail conditions and early release of career criminals for so called “good behaviour”!!!!!!!!!!)

Shortly after, Toronto city council voted to approve a five-year $44-million plan that would see investments in enhanced enforcement measures, including the ShotSpotter technology, and community programs aimed at violence prevention.

(But now the gun violence rate has abated- for now due to the cold weather - and the LIE-beral FIX is in!!!! There will be NO NEW technology since it might embarrass LIE-berals! And might lose votes for LIE-berals among certain ethnic voters if the criminal truth came out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

taxslave

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You mean like when Thatcher nationalized the mines?
Or in Canada, where the state owns, or so thoroughly controls, the means of the production and distribution of health care that it is effectively ownership?
You do understand, I hope, that the Republicans shriek "SOSHULISM!" every time someone proposes instituting a health-care system using Canada's as a model.
They would be wise not to use the Canadian model. There are several European models which are much better.
 

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spilledthebeer

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You mean like when Thatcher nationalized the mines?

Or in Canada, where the state owns, or so thoroughly controls, the means of the production and distribution of health care that it is effectively ownership?

You do understand, I hope, that the Republicans shriek "SOSHULISM!" every time someone proposes instituting a health-care system using Canada's as a model.






POOR TECUMSEHBONESFORBRAINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He thinks that breaking up the unholy stranglehold that the Coal Miners Union had on the British economy was SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Complaining about Thatcher attacking Coal Miners is on a par with trying to prove that Fedex and UPS SHOULD NOT EXIST because they are taking work away from the Cdn POSTAL UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You DO KNOW that Fedex and UPS and other assorted parcel delivery groups and couriers WERE once ILLEGAL in Canada dont you???????????????????????????


You DO KNOW that it took parliamentary DEBATE and the passage of legislation to ALLOW private parcel delivery in Canada????????


In the face of MASSIVE OPPOSITION from Posties who were frantic to retain their wonderful MONOPOLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just like Coal Miners Union which had expanded widely throughout Brit economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is the face of ALL civil service union Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They want a life of special privilege for themselves on their Socialist gravy train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they want extreme CAPITALISM for the rest of society so they can get the best deals on food and restaurant service and cheap gas and low cost lawn care and low taxes on their summer homes and etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Where LIE-berals and socialists are concerned....................................


the Devil is always in the details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the ENTITLEMENTS ONLY GO ONE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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By "surly" I take it to mean identifying bull shit! :)
OK, I'll make a mental note that you don't know what "surly" means. I try to work within the vocabulary (that means "how many words you know") limitations (that means "stuff you don't know or can't do") of my interlocutors (that means "the people I'm talking with").
 

Hoid

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New Zealand demanding to tighten gun laws in wake of terrorist attack.

This is how a normal country works.
 

Colpy

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Well, I just watched the Liberal Justice Committee shut down any additional inquiry about Lavscam using as an excuse the need to look at hate speech after the mess in New Zealand.


I watched Hussen use it to condemn free speech.


Now I've seen them use that same tragedy to promote the disarming of the Canadian population.


https://thegunblog.ca/2019/03/19/pr...ZZeeWnLsl0iE3nh7wqGNP7nnsIg1o4vA0VoNguLn9YSoM



The Liberals do so love a pile of dead bodies that they can virtue signal from.......


These idiots are wrecking the country.


Throw them out in October.
 

Hoid

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I can see where you would not be a big fan of anyone looking into hate speech in Canada.