Hypocrisy of the Left

spilledthebeer

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Extremist groups increasing concern: Goodale



I thought the van attacker had a rare mental disease with relationships with women?


Yes- the van attacker is a fine example of how POORLY modern kids are being socialized and introduced to adulthood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


News media had some interviews with young women that had gone to school with him and his shyness and lack of self confidence was so crippling that he could only make inarticulate noises when a girl spoke to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it may be that he had some odd form of autism as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In any case- it seems that frustration, loneliness and inability to fit himself into society in some decently comfortable way drove him mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our LIE-beral overlords are quietly IGNORING a whole range of chemicals that are infiltrating our environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- the rise of Autism coincides with the use of plastics that mimic human hormones and the increased use of fire retardant chemicals that take their own weird toll on a human body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Examination of fish in the lower Great Lakes reveals the presence of drugs in fish flesh- residues of birth control pills excreted in women`s urine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The fish also show traces of various medical contaminants such as anti depressants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With many of the chemicals doing ODD things to our minds and bodies as they mimic various hormones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider the contradiction of sales receipts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Due to the prevalence of identity theft and credit card fraud- which LIE-berals refuse to bother doing anything about- we MUST KEEP ALL our receipts so if we get hit by fraud we can prove what we bought versus what the scammers stole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is a health threat in keeping those receipts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The receipts that stores so regularly hand out are made of a type of plastic that affects human reproduction and mimics various hormones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if it is capable of that then can it also affect development of the human mind?????????????


LIE-berals DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To make such a determination would require a LONG, COSTLY and LARGE SCALE study- for a period of decades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals would rather just close their eyes and pretend all was fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course THEY COULD just COMPLETELY BAN that type of plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- we do know that some types of plastic ARE DANGEROUS- but we sometimes cannot say HOW DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is the complex question of which plastics and chemicals react with each other????????????????????????


Again- LIE-berals just close their eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why not err on the side of caution and make multiple bans??????????????????



But that would cause problems with some of the countries we trade with such as China which happily uses these plastics for their LOW COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But banning plastic contaminants would raise costs for business people and LIE-berals are already DESPISED by most people in Biz and they do not want to LOSE EVEN MORE VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Although............most of the people acting as cashiers in a business these days are women........and handling those receipts even for 15 minutes CAN alter your body chemistry as a recent tv documentary revealed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe stupid LIE-berals COULD WIN VOTES by banning some of those dangerous chemical plastics such as Bisphenal A that often show up as liners on food containers and as our store receipts and etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The stuff has been banned from being used as liners for fruit juice cans but it apparently sneaks into other types of containers- especially ones made in China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just another reason not to let Chinese SOVIETS bully us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And just another reason to LAUGH whenever LIE-berals try to tell us how devoted they are to the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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VA Dem Gov Northam's Med School Yearbook Page Shows Blackface, KKK Photo
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...rbook-page-shows-blackface-kkk-photo-n2540690

Almost as bad as Kavanaugh.




POOR STUPID WALTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not see the HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Everybody LAUGHED when Mrs. DOUBTFIRE came on the screen and people thought it was riotously funny when "she" accidentally set her plastic tits on fire and melted them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what of famous actress Julie Andrews playing "Victor/Victoria" and getting great reviews and winning an Oscar if I recall correctly??????????????????


How is it that various actors can get into DRAG and get huge laughs mocking the opposite sex and nobody gets upset??????????????????????????


And yet some white guy smears shoe polish on his face and people go berserk????????????????????????


THE WHOLE THING IS VERY MUCH OVERBLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The ONLY PEOPLE who really care about this black face stuff are SMALL MINDED LIE-berals trying desperately to derail their political opponents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Small minded LIE-berals would rather talk about a guy wearing shoe polish than discuss Chinese SPIES infiltrating the country with their Huawei gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Sadly, the Conservative Party has been infiltrated by Red Tories- a batch of back stabbing LIE-beral "Lite" hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joe Clark. Ernie Eaves and Kim Campbell epitomize all that is wrong with Red Tory thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clark, Eaves and Campbell are the reason the Reform Party had to be created!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fortunately Red Tories are in disgrace at this time- mainly thanks to that imbecile Joe Clark telling people that in his view "all true Conservatives would join the LIE-beral party rather than work with Reform Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE IS A GOOD REASON why we dont hear much from knuckleheads like Clark, Eaves and Campbell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Conservative has to back an arsehole like Trump to be a legitimate Conservative?

I don't think so. It better not be do or the Conservative Party shrinks down into a regional Alberta rump, again.
 

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A Conservative has to back an arsehole like Trump to be a legitimate Conservative?

I don't think so. It better not be do or the Conservative Party shrinks down into a regional Alberta rump, again.
It's funny when Progs tell Cons what conservatism is supposed to be.
 

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It's funny when Progs tell Cons what conservatism is supposed to be.




Oh dont mind our resident Soviet Socialist LIE-beral Curious Cdn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So people think that Democracy should always work in their favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- THAT IS WHAT THEY VOTED FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED to whatever they want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And just like Chinese Soviets- our LIE-beral Cdn version reserves the right to RE-WRITE our history as they feel is necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article about how BANKRUPT Ontari-owe was becoming under Wynne-bag LIE-berals! And it illustrates LIE-beral HYPOCRISY as they whine about Conservatives being friendly with Cdn biz leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating how desperate conditions are getting aboard the not so good ship LIE-beral! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ontario changing rules for defined benefit pensions

The Canadian Press. First posted: Friday, May 19, 2017 01:22 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, May 19, 2017 01:25 PM EDT

TORONTO - Ontario is changing rules on workplace defined benefit pensions, including considering them to be solvent when they are 85 per cent funded.

(How odd- considering that news articles from 2010-2012 were full of ominous news about how 97 percent of defined benefit plans in Canada- INCLUDING the solid gold plans available to civil service Hogs- were in great fiscal jeopardy due to LIE-berals not being able to shovel cash into Hog plans as fast as greedy Hogs dig it back out! And with private corps like GM seeing their profits and work force shrinking and thus losing the flow of cash needed to save their plans!)

The provincial Liberal government announced today that it would introduce legislation in the fall to make that change and others that it says will help keep defined benefit pension plans sustainable.

(AS I see it- LIE-berals are telling us- yet again- that Ontari-owe is bankrupt and the only way to save our economy is to let major corporations such as GM allow their pension plans to wither and die! Calling the plans `solvent` when they can only cover 85 percent- AT BEST- of their promised commitments sounds to me like LIE-berals have just given companies carte blanche to short change workers on their pension promises!)

Single-employer defined benefit plans currently require funding on a solvency basis if they are anything less than 100 per cent funded, but the government is planning to lower that level to 85 per cent.

That means if a pension plan is 85 per cent funded and is forced to wind up immediately, there would only be enough to pay 85 cents on the dollar to meet the plan’s obligations.

(And that maximum 85 percent would be subject to lawyers bills as the plan was fought over- meaning a LOT LESS than 85 percent will be available to workers!)

Employers would have five years to make special solvency payments to get back to 85 per cent if their plan falls below that threshold.

(How strangely these LIE-berals think- it was about 4 and a half years ago that the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF/Ontari-owe high school teachers pension management team came on TVO/The Agenda and informed us that OSSTF would be demanding about 55 billion dollars in deferred pension payments that had been promised by spendthrift LIE-berals but not delivered on due to our simply not having the money! It is these LIE-beral promises to Hogs that are driving all manner of LIE-beral tax gouging such as Hydro prices and Carbon crap and trade plan. And dropping the requirement to fill up the deficient pension plans of companies like Gm seem an open admission that they will NEVER CATCH UP!)

(Ontari-owe companies are making major noise about the LIE-beral Carbon crap scam and LIE-berals will not wish to back off their BAD carbon deal since it would illustrate even to a blind man that ALL LIE-beral policies- and not just the carbon crap- are failing in so many ways! So they must bribe companies to stay here and put up with the Carbon crap without appearing to do so and how better a bribe than to let CEO`s KILL OFF those costly private corporate defined benefit pension plans? It does not cost LIE-berals anything to take such a step and it makes greedy corporate CEO`s happy. It’s a win for everybody except the workers and what LIE-beral needs THEIR opinion of anything? If you ain’t getting a govt pay cheque then you ain’t a “real Cdn” in the eyes of LIE-berals! In the eyes of LIE-berals even a convicted terrorist apparently is `more Cdn` than a private sector worker since the terrorist KNOWS who to reward with HIS VOTE! Too bad so many private sector workers are so foolish as to scorn LIE-berals!)

That move would give employers relief as defined benefit plans face challenges including historically low interest rates, but at the same time the government is also strengthening other employer pension obligations.

(And was it not LIE-berals who have driven down those interest rates to their historically low levels in an effort to save our over taxed economy? And is it not TRUDOPE LIE-berals commanded by either father Pierre or idiot son Justin who hold the record for running up most debt in shortest times? And is it not LIE-berals who insist that our debts are manageable- just so long as interest rates stay low? Oh dear- its LIE-berals spinning in circles yet again- high interest rates mean better return on Hog pension investments- but higher interest rates mean our debt becomes un-manageable and that will hurt Hogs! And LIE-berals insist that our planned series of 30 billion dollar federal deficits are no problem even though so much of the money will be directed at Hogs in a FAILING attempt to pay them enough to be contented and happy and make them into STAUNCH LIE-beral lovers! And was there not a recent news report detailing LIE-beral plans to put UP hydro rates by another FIFTY PERCENT after the 2018 provincial election-assuming LIE-berals are still in power them- after all if LIE-berals are to be loved `long time` by Hogs then a new source of Hog gravy is DEFINITELY required?)

Does all this LIE-beral fiscal scheming not add up to provincial bankruptcy as we don’t have the cash to bail out Hog pensions, cannot allow interest rates to creep up so that Hogs will get a better return on investment, cannot allow interest rates to creep up as it will kill the economy and STOP the flow of govt gravy to Hogs, cannot afford the planned hydro price increases LIE-berals are planning for 2019 so they can stabilize THEIR WORLD at our cost and cannot sit quiet as private defined pension plans are allowed to DIE right around the time that those Hydro price increases kick in! Its not the pensions we cannot afford- its more LIE-beral govt that will kill us all!)

If plans can’t meet a going concern test of being able to fully fund their present obligations, they will have 10 years to make special payments to get to the appropriate funding, down from the current 15 years.

(That`s nice- General Motors has quietly shelved any plan to produce any product at its Oshawa plant in the short term- where workers consistently have the highest production quality in North America and Gm has apparently done this as protest over the Carbon crap and trade mess. GM will be GONE forever long before that 10 year window UNLESS LIE-berals bribe them in a huge way to stay! And we cannot afford any more auto maker bribery either- Ford just got a couple hundred million in govt grants and is now going ahead with layoffs of about 6oo workers- the ones whose pension plans LIE-berals are now undermining with their funding changes!)

(And was it not Gm that just fought a long battle with its older workers over its already too small pension funds? With retired GM workers currently happy to settle for most of what they were owed and how many will want to go through a new round of legal battles once Gm gets the LIE-beral green light to further shrink the pension fund? Or if Gm simply decides to abandon Canada? And it was LIE-beral Dalton McGinty who promised Gm workers that LIE-berals would make up the difference if their pension plan died! Oh well- perhaps we should assume the promise died along with the career of McGinty? Or not- if LIE-berals need to BUY more votes?)

The government will also be requiring employers to fund a reserve within their plans in order to manage risk and keep benefits secure.

(So LIE-berals are saying its okay to let the pension plan erode to 85 percent of need- but employers should keep a reserve fund available to manage risk and keep benefits secure? So- fully funded or not? LIE-berals don’t know and don’t care just so long as they keep free of fallout! Failure is YOUR OPTION- NOT THEIRS!)
 

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Oh dont mind our resident Soviet Socialist LIE-beral Curious Cdn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So people think that Democracy should always work in their favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- THAT IS WHAT THEY VOTED FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED to whatever they want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And just like Chinese Soviets- our LIE-beral Cdn version reserves the right to RE-WRITE our history as they feel is necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article about how BANKRUPT Ontari-owe was becoming under Wynne-bag LIE-berals! And it illustrates LIE-beral HYPOCRISY as they whine about Conservatives being friendly with Cdn biz leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article illustrating how desperate conditions are getting aboard the not so good ship LIE-beral! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Ontario changing rules for defined benefit pensions
The Canadian Press. First posted: Friday, May 19, 2017 01:22 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, May 19, 2017 01:25 PM EDT
TORONTO - Ontario is changing rules on workplace defined benefit pensions, including considering them to be solvent when they are 85 per cent funded.
(How odd- considering that news articles from 2010-2012 were full of ominous news about how 97 percent of defined benefit plans in Canada- INCLUDING the solid gold plans available to civil service Hogs- were in great fiscal jeopardy due to LIE-berals not being able to shovel cash into Hog plans as fast as greedy Hogs dig it back out! And with private corps like GM seeing their profits and work force shrinking and thus losing the flow of cash needed to save their plans!)
The provincial Liberal government announced today that it would introduce legislation in the fall to make that change and others that it says will help keep defined benefit pension plans sustainable.
(AS I see it- LIE-berals are telling us- yet again- that Ontari-owe is bankrupt and the only way to save our economy is to let major corporations such as GM allow their pension plans to wither and die! Calling the plans `solvent` when they can only cover 85 percent- AT BEST- of their promised commitments sounds to me like LIE-berals have just given companies carte blanche to short change workers on their pension promises!)
Single-employer defined benefit plans currently require funding on a solvency basis if they are anything less than 100 per cent funded, but the government is planning to lower that level to 85 per cent.
That means if a pension plan is 85 per cent funded and is forced to wind up immediately, there would only be enough to pay 85 cents on the dollar to meet the plan’s obligations.
(And that maximum 85 percent would be subject to lawyers bills as the plan was fought over- meaning a LOT LESS than 85 percent will be available to workers!)
Employers would have five years to make special solvency payments to get back to 85 per cent if their plan falls below that threshold.
(How strangely these LIE-berals think- it was about 4 and a half years ago that the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF/Ontari-owe high school teachers pension management team came on TVO/The Agenda and informed us that OSSTF would be demanding about 55 billion dollars in deferred pension payments that had been promised by spendthrift LIE-berals but not delivered on due to our simply not having the money! It is these LIE-beral promises to Hogs that are driving all manner of LIE-beral tax gouging such as Hydro prices and Carbon crap and trade plan. And dropping the requirement to fill up the deficient pension plans of companies like Gm seem an open admission that they will NEVER CATCH UP!)
(Ontari-owe companies are making major noise about the LIE-beral Carbon crap scam and LIE-berals will not wish to back off their BAD carbon deal since it would illustrate even to a blind man that ALL LIE-beral policies- and not just the carbon crap- are failing in so many ways! So they must bribe companies to stay here and put up with the Carbon crap without appearing to do so and how better a bribe than to let CEO`s KILL OFF those costly private corporate defined benefit pension plans? It does not cost LIE-berals anything to take such a step and it makes greedy corporate CEO`s happy. It’s a win for everybody except the workers and what LIE-beral needs THEIR opinion of anything? If you ain’t getting a govt pay cheque then you ain’t a “real Cdn” in the eyes of LIE-berals! In the eyes of LIE-berals even a convicted terrorist apparently is `more Cdn` than a private sector worker since the terrorist KNOWS who to reward with HIS VOTE! Too bad so many private sector workers are so foolish as to scorn LIE-berals!)
That move would give employers relief as defined benefit plans face challenges including historically low interest rates, but at the same time the government is also strengthening other employer pension obligations.
(And was it not LIE-berals who have driven down those interest rates to their historically low levels in an effort to save our over taxed economy? And is it not TRUDOPE LIE-berals commanded by either father Pierre or idiot son Justin who hold the record for running up most debt in shortest times? And is it not LIE-berals who insist that our debts are manageable- just so long as interest rates stay low? Oh dear- its LIE-berals spinning in circles yet again- high interest rates mean better return on Hog pension investments- but higher interest rates mean our debt becomes un-manageable and that will hurt Hogs! And LIE-berals insist that our planned series of 30 billion dollar federal deficits are no problem even though so much of the money will be directed at Hogs in a FAILING attempt to pay them enough to be contented and happy and make them into STAUNCH LIE-beral lovers! And was there not a recent news report detailing LIE-beral plans to put UP hydro rates by another FIFTY PERCENT after the 2018 provincial election-assuming LIE-berals are still in power them- after all if LIE-berals are to be loved `long time` by Hogs then a new source of Hog gravy is DEFINITELY required?)
Does all this LIE-beral fiscal scheming not add up to provincial bankruptcy as we don’t have the cash to bail out Hog pensions, cannot allow interest rates to creep up so that Hogs will get a better return on investment, cannot allow interest rates to creep up as it will kill the economy and STOP the flow of govt gravy to Hogs, cannot afford the planned hydro price increases LIE-berals are planning for 2019 so they can stabilize THEIR WORLD at our cost and cannot sit quiet as private defined pension plans are allowed to DIE right around the time that those Hydro price increases kick in! Its not the pensions we cannot afford- its more LIE-beral govt that will kill us all!)
If plans can’t meet a going concern test of being able to fully fund their present obligations, they will have 10 years to make special payments to get to the appropriate funding, down from the current 15 years.
(That`s nice- General Motors has quietly shelved any plan to produce any product at its Oshawa plant in the short term- where workers consistently have the highest production quality in North America and Gm has apparently done this as protest over the Carbon crap and trade mess. GM will be GONE forever long before that 10 year window UNLESS LIE-berals bribe them in a huge way to stay! And we cannot afford any more auto maker bribery either- Ford just got a couple hundred million in govt grants and is now going ahead with layoffs of about 6oo workers- the ones whose pension plans LIE-berals are now undermining with their funding changes!)
(And was it not Gm that just fought a long battle with its older workers over its already too small pension funds? With retired GM workers currently happy to settle for most of what they were owed and how many will want to go through a new round of legal battles once Gm gets the LIE-beral green light to further shrink the pension fund? Or if Gm simply decides to abandon Canada? And it was LIE-beral Dalton McGinty who promised Gm workers that LIE-berals would make up the difference if their pension plan died! Oh well- perhaps we should assume the promise died along with the career of McGinty? Or not- if LIE-berals need to BUY more votes?)
The government will also be requiring employers to fund a reserve within their plans in order to manage risk and keep benefits secure.
(So LIE-berals are saying its okay to let the pension plan erode to 85 percent of need- but employers should keep a reserve fund available to manage risk and keep benefits secure? So- fully funded or not? LIE-berals don’t know and don’t care just so long as they keep free of fallout! Failure is YOUR OPTION- NOT THEIRS!)
So, you're saying that if you don't like Trump, don't vote for the Conservatives. If that rule gets around, the Conservatives are going to come in a distant third in the coming election.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ing-disapprove-of-donald-trump-poll-says.html

The wing-ding wackydoodles from Wetaskewin had better think that one out a lot better than that.

There is another level of Conservatism possible other than out-and-out fascism. The ultra-right wingers posting on here really don't get it, they are so marginal to real Canadian political culture. Bet ya all think that the Republican Party is peachy-neat and that you want to JUST LIKE them?
 

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An explanation of the Progressive savior complex.

Trying to dissect the exact thought process behind the ideas of the modern Progressive far-left is nearly impossible. From bizarre gender identity pronouns to trigger warnings, not much of what they stand for makes sense anymore.

But I wanted to touch on one aspect of the current far-left thinking because I think it’s rooted in something we can more easily identify and once pointed out becomes obvious to see in many of their other outlandish social justice crusades.

The bottom line is Progressives always want to feel like they are saving the world. And don’t get me wrong, trying to save the world can be a great thing. But the problem is, Progressives don’t actually want to do the work to save the world. You see, solving the world’s real issues takes a signifigant amount of work. Not only that, it can be frustrating as progress is often slow and setbacks are the norm.

But Progressives have figured out a way to circumvent all those pesky problems and get right to the part where they pat themselves on the back for being such virtuous people. What they do instead is inflate a smaller issue or a non-issue into one that they claim is going to destroy the world, or at the very least, destroy America. Then they propose some poorly thought out law or way of behaving they claim will solve the fake problem they invented.

A perfect and recent example is climate change. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently stated that within 12 years the Earth will be destroyed by climate change. Now on the surface that seems like a preposterous claim, yet many on the Progressive left jumped right on board with her doomsday scenario.

Now I’m not even going to bother getting into an argument over how silly her claim is as that’s not the point here. The point is how Progressives overstate a problem, or even invent a problem so they can be seen as the savior of the world by fighting to solve a non-problem.

Transgender rights is another perfect example. Many Progressives called the transgender rights initiatives that they spearheaded a modern day civil rights movement.

First of all, this is completely offensive to the actual civil rights movement that occurred in this country. Trans or gay people were never denied any freedoms such as the right to vote or to do business where they please. In fact, gay and trans people were never denied any rights at any time. The only issue they had to deal with from a legal standpoint is marriage, and that was mostly due to existing laws that were written for people of two separate genders. Marriage laws weren’t specifically written to exclude gay or trans people despite what Progressives would have you believe.

But once again this goes back to my original point. Progressives want to take something that is barely an issue, or an issue that effects such a small segment of the population, such as trans bathroom rights, then pretend like they are all the reincarnation of Martin Luther King Jr. himself by fighting for these so-called rights of the under-represented.

Estimates put the number of trans people in America at about .06%. Yet this was a major part of the Progressive platform in 2016 and still is. Not only that, no current laws actually discriminate against trans people. So what exactly are Progressives fighting for in this case?

Progressives do this with just about everything. From climate, to plastic straws, to women’s pay, to the patriarchy – Progressives invent a doomsday scenario then pretend to be the ones who can fix it just so they can pat themselves on the back.

You see, they are fighting for nothing other than to make themselves feel like saviors. They simply take a group they deem as “lesser” than them then claim only they, the mighty Progressives can fight on behalf of these people. But as you can see, it’s actually demeaning as Progressives must put whoever they want to help into instant victim status and unable to help themselves.

The same can be said for Progressive cities that recently called for a ban on plastic straws. This does nothing to save the planet or anything else, but as I wrote early, it’s easy to do and that’s what Progressives are looking for.

Easy and conspicuous fake solutions are all Progressives are interested in.

Progressives don’t want to put in any actual work or research to solve a problem. That takes too much effort and commitment and all they really want is the credit anyway. So what better way to achieve their objective than to pass some nonsense law. Laws are easy to pass, and once passed, the Progressives can dust off their hands and pat themselves on the back, proclaiming that once again they’ve saved the world.

That’s why Progressives are so keen on new gun control laws. The evidence is obvious that tougher gun laws have no effect on criminals obtaining or using guns, in fact it’s the opposite. But that doesn’t stop Progressives from wanting to pass new laws. And the reason is because it’s easy. They can pass some silly law about background checks or magazine capacity then claim that they’ve saved hundreds of lives. It’s all just theater for Progressives and it simply feeds their need to be the world’s savior but without doing any actual saving.

So the next time you see a Progressive claiming that the world is going to end, stop and take a closer look. Chances are they’re just trying to set themselves up to once again feel they are saving the world, at least in their own minds.

theculturechronicles.com/index.php/2019/02/11/an-explanation-of-the-progressive-savior-complex/
 

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An explanation of the Progressive savior complex.

Trying to dissect the exact thought process behind the ideas of the modern Progressive far-left is nearly impossible. From bizarre gender identity pronouns to trigger warnings, not much of what they stand for makes sense anymore.

But I wanted to touch on one aspect of the current far-left thinking because I think it’s rooted in something we can more easily identify and once pointed out becomes obvious to see in many of their other outlandish social justice crusades.

The bottom line is Progressives always want to feel like they are saving the world. And don’t get me wrong, trying to save the world can be a great thing. But the problem is, Progressives don’t actually want to do the work to save the world. You see, solving the world’s real issues takes a signifigant amount of work. Not only that, it can be frustrating as progress is often slow and setbacks are the norm.

But Progressives have figured out a way to circumvent all those pesky problems and get right to the part where they pat themselves on the back for being such virtuous people. What they do instead is inflate a smaller issue or a non-issue into one that they claim is going to destroy the world, or at the very least, destroy America. Then they propose some poorly thought out law or way of behaving they claim will solve the fake problem they invented.

A perfect and recent example is climate change. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently stated that within 12 years the Earth will be destroyed by climate change. Now on the surface that seems like a preposterous claim, yet many on the Progressive left jumped right on board with her doomsday scenario.

Now I’m not even going to bother getting into an argument over how silly her claim is as that’s not the point here. The point is how Progressives overstate a problem, or even invent a problem so they can be seen as the savior of the world by fighting to solve a non-problem.

Transgender rights is another perfect example. Many Progressives called the transgender rights initiatives that they spearheaded a modern day civil rights movement.

First of all, this is completely offensive to the actual civil rights movement that occurred in this country. Trans or gay people were never denied any freedoms such as the right to vote or to do business where they please. In fact, gay and trans people were never denied any rights at any time. The only issue they had to deal with from a legal standpoint is marriage, and that was mostly due to existing laws that were written for people of two separate genders. Marriage laws weren’t specifically written to exclude gay or trans people despite what Progressives would have you believe.

But once again this goes back to my original point. Progressives want to take something that is barely an issue, or an issue that effects such a small segment of the population, such as trans bathroom rights, then pretend like they are all the reincarnation of Martin Luther King Jr. himself by fighting for these so-called rights of the under-represented.

Estimates put the number of trans people in America at about .06%. Yet this was a major part of the Progressive platform in 2016 and still is. Not only that, no current laws actually discriminate against trans people. So what exactly are Progressives fighting for in this case?

Progressives do this with just about everything. From climate, to plastic straws, to women’s pay, to the patriarchy – Progressives invent a doomsday scenario then pretend to be the ones who can fix it just so they can pat themselves on the back.

You see, they are fighting for nothing other than to make themselves feel like saviors. They simply take a group they deem as “lesser” than them then claim only they, the mighty Progressives can fight on behalf of these people. But as you can see, it’s actually demeaning as Progressives must put whoever they want to help into instant victim status and unable to help themselves.

The same can be said for Progressive cities that recently called for a ban on plastic straws. This does nothing to save the planet or anything else, but as I wrote early, it’s easy to do and that’s what Progressives are looking for.

Easy and conspicuous fake solutions are all Progressives are interested in.

Progressives don’t want to put in any actual work or research to solve a problem. That takes too much effort and commitment and all they really want is the credit anyway. So what better way to achieve their objective than to pass some nonsense law. Laws are easy to pass, and once passed, the Progressives can dust off their hands and pat themselves on the back, proclaiming that once again they’ve saved the world.

That’s why Progressives are so keen on new gun control laws. The evidence is obvious that tougher gun laws have no effect on criminals obtaining or using guns, in fact it’s the opposite. But that doesn’t stop Progressives from wanting to pass new laws. And the reason is because it’s easy. They can pass some silly law about background checks or magazine capacity then claim that they’ve saved hundreds of lives. It’s all just theater for Progressives and it simply feeds their need to be the world’s savior but without doing any actual saving.

So the next time you see a Progressive claiming that the world is going to end, stop and take a closer look. Chances are they’re just trying to set themselves up to once again feel they are saving the world, at least in their own minds.

theculturechronicles.com/index.php/2019/02/11/an-explanation-of-the-progressive-savior-complex/
Yup when the Nisga got their settlement , my buddy says , now they will have a two day celebration and live will be the same as yesterday .
 

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Yup when the Nisga got their settlement , my buddy says , now they will have a two day celebration and live will be the same as yesterday .
 

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An explanation of the Progressive savior complex.

Trying to dissect the exact thought process behind the ideas of the modern Progressive far-left is nearly impossible. From bizarre gender identity pronouns to trigger warnings, not much of what they stand for makes sense anymore.

But I wanted to touch on one aspect of the current far-left thinking because I think it’s rooted in something we can more easily identify and once pointed out becomes obvious to see in many of their other outlandish social justice crusades.

The bottom line is Progressives always want to feel like they are saving the world. And don’t get me wrong, trying to save the world can be a great thing. But the problem is, Progressives don’t actually want to do the work to save the world. You see, solving the world’s real issues takes a signifigant amount of work. Not only that, it can be frustrating as progress is often slow and setbacks are the norm.

But Progressives have figured out a way to circumvent all those pesky problems and get right to the part where they pat themselves on the back for being such virtuous people. What they do instead is inflate a smaller issue or a non-issue into one that they claim is going to destroy the world, or at the very least, destroy America. Then they propose some poorly thought out law or way of behaving they claim will solve the fake problem they invented.

A perfect and recent example is climate change. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently stated that within 12 years the Earth will be destroyed by climate change. Now on the surface that seems like a preposterous claim, yet many on the Progressive left jumped right on board with her doomsday scenario.

Now I’m not even going to bother getting into an argument over how silly her claim is as that’s not the point here. The point is how Progressives overstate a problem, or even invent a problem so they can be seen as the savior of the world by fighting to solve a non-problem.

Transgender rights is another perfect example. Many Progressives called the transgender rights initiatives that they spearheaded a modern day civil rights movement.

First of all, this is completely offensive to the actual civil rights movement that occurred in this country. Trans or gay people were never denied any freedoms such as the right to vote or to do business where they please. In fact, gay and trans people were never denied any rights at any time. The only issue they had to deal with from a legal standpoint is marriage, and that was mostly due to existing laws that were written for people of two separate genders. Marriage laws weren’t specifically written to exclude gay or trans people despite what Progressives would have you believe.

But once again this goes back to my original point. Progressives want to take something that is barely an issue, or an issue that effects such a small segment of the population, such as trans bathroom rights, then pretend like they are all the reincarnation of Martin Luther King Jr. himself by fighting for these so-called rights of the under-represented.

Estimates put the number of trans people in America at about .06%. Yet this was a major part of the Progressive platform in 2016 and still is. Not only that, no current laws actually discriminate against trans people. So what exactly are Progressives fighting for in this case?

Progressives do this with just about everything. From climate, to plastic straws, to women’s pay, to the patriarchy – Progressives invent a doomsday scenario then pretend to be the ones who can fix it just so they can pat themselves on the back.

You see, they are fighting for nothing other than to make themselves feel like saviors. They simply take a group they deem as “lesser” than them then claim only they, the mighty Progressives can fight on behalf of these people. But as you can see, it’s actually demeaning as Progressives must put whoever they want to help into instant victim status and unable to help themselves.

The same can be said for Progressive cities that recently called for a ban on plastic straws. This does nothing to save the planet or anything else, but as I wrote early, it’s easy to do and that’s what Progressives are looking for.

Easy and conspicuous fake solutions are all Progressives are interested in.

Progressives don’t want to put in any actual work or research to solve a problem. That takes too much effort and commitment and all they really want is the credit anyway. So what better way to achieve their objective than to pass some nonsense law. Laws are easy to pass, and once passed, the Progressives can dust off their hands and pat themselves on the back, proclaiming that once again they’ve saved the world.

That’s why Progressives are so keen on new gun control laws. The evidence is obvious that tougher gun laws have no effect on criminals obtaining or using guns, in fact it’s the opposite. But that doesn’t stop Progressives from wanting to pass new laws. And the reason is because it’s easy. They can pass some silly law about background checks or magazine capacity then claim that they’ve saved hundreds of lives. It’s all just theater for Progressives and it simply feeds their need to be the world’s savior but without doing any actual saving.

So the next time you see a Progressive claiming that the world is going to end, stop and take a closer look. Chances are they’re just trying to set themselves up to once again feel they are saving the world, at least in their own minds.

theculturechronicles.com/index.php/2019/02/11/an-explanation-of-the-progressive-savior-complex/


The sad thing about this article - and it's sad because there was a decent point at the start of it - is that Gay and Trans people DID have more going on than just the 'marriage rights' stuff. They are, even now, still lacking in rights. When you're evicted just for being gay or trans, when you can't be hired to a job, when things cost more for you... those are things that are not equal to others. FFS, Trumps Trans ban in the military is against their rights. There are many who served before this ban who do fine and don't fall under the fearmongering that was used to make this excuse of a law.


And don't even start on the 'bathroom bills' BS from the lunatic right wing idiots.


I do agree, sometimes the crap that is said to stir people up is a little much - coming from the Left OR Right - but at least if you're going to try and make a point, use facts, not feelings.
 

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The sad thing about this article - and it's sad because there was a decent point at the start of it - is that Gay and Trans people DID have more going on than just the 'marriage rights' stuff. They are, even now, still lacking in rights. When you're evicted just for being gay or trans, when you can't be hired to a job, when things cost more for you... those are things that are not equal to others. FFS, Trumps Trans ban in the military is against their rights. There are many who served before this ban who do fine and don't fall under the fearmongering that was used to make this excuse of a law.
And don't even start on the 'bathroom bills' BS from the lunatic right wing idiots.
I do agree, sometimes the crap that is said to stir people up is a little much - coming from the Left OR Right - but at least if you're going to try and make a point, use facts, not feelings.
Best laugh today.
 

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The sad thing about this article - and it's sad because there was a decent point at the start of it - is that Gay and Trans people DID have more going on than just the 'marriage rights' stuff. They are, even now, still lacking in rights. When you're evicted just for being gay or trans, when you can't be hired to a job, when things cost more for you... those are things that are not equal to others. FFS, Trumps Trans ban in the military is against their rights. There are many who served before this ban who do fine and don't fall under the fearmongering that was used to make this excuse of a law.


And don't even start on the 'bathroom bills' BS from the lunatic right wing idiots.


I do agree, sometimes the crap that is said to stir people up is a little much - coming from the Left OR Right - but at least if you're going to try and make a point, use facts, not feelings.
I believe it is illegal in Canada for people to be evicted for lifestyle choices also there are numerous protections in the labor code regarding the same . Transgender is approximately .05 % of the population . Should we as a society make special provisions for each .05% subset ?
 

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I believe it is illegal in Canada for people to be evicted for lifestyle choices also there are numerous protections in the labor code regarding the same . Transgender is approximately .05 % of the population . Should we as a society make special provisions for each .05% subset ?
Why not? 95% of the tax code is special provisions that apply only to the .05% who are the very richest.

When you are faced with binary choices from the past that do not reflect current reality (and probably didn't reflect reality even back then), you have two choices: either make or interpret your societal rules to account for them, or insist that what was good enuff fer yer daddy is by Gawd good enuff fer you!

So, if you want to be a narrow-minded bigot deliberately shutting his eyes to reality, go for it. It's a lifestyle choice.
 

spilledthebeer

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An explanation of the Progressive savior complex.

Trying to dissect the exact thought process behind the ideas of the modern Progressive far-left is nearly impossible. From bizarre gender identity pronouns to trigger warnings, not much of what they stand for makes sense anymore.

But I wanted to touch on one aspect of the current far-left thinking because I think it’s rooted in something we can more easily identify and once pointed out becomes obvious to see in many of their other outlandish social justice crusades.

The bottom line is Progressives always want to feel like they are saving the world. And don’t get me wrong, trying to save the world can be a great thing. But the problem is, Progressives don’t actually want to do the work to save the world. You see, solving the world’s real issues takes a signifigant amount of work. Not only that, it can be frustrating as progress is often slow and setbacks are the norm.

But Progressives have figured out a way to circumvent all those pesky problems and get right to the part where they pat themselves on the back for being such virtuous people. What they do instead is inflate a smaller issue or a non-issue into one that they claim is going to destroy the world, or at the very least, destroy America. Then they propose some poorly thought out law or way of behaving they claim will solve the fake problem they invented.

A perfect and recent example is climate change. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently stated that within 12 years the Earth will be destroyed by climate change. Now on the surface that seems like a preposterous claim, yet many on the Progressive left jumped right on board with her doomsday scenario.

Now I’m not even going to bother getting into an argument over how silly her claim is as that’s not the point here. The point is how Progressives overstate a problem, or even invent a problem so they can be seen as the savior of the world by fighting to solve a non-problem.

Transgender rights is another perfect example. Many Progressives called the transgender rights initiatives that they spearheaded a modern day civil rights movement.

First of all, this is completely offensive to the actual civil rights movement that occurred in this country. Trans or gay people were never denied any freedoms such as the right to vote or to do business where they please. In fact, gay and trans people were never denied any rights at any time. The only issue they had to deal with from a legal standpoint is marriage, and that was mostly due to existing laws that were written for people of two separate genders. Marriage laws weren’t specifically written to exclude gay or trans people despite what Progressives would have you believe.

But once again this goes back to my original point. Progressives want to take something that is barely an issue, or an issue that effects such a small segment of the population, such as trans bathroom rights, then pretend like they are all the reincarnation of Martin Luther King Jr. himself by fighting for these so-called rights of the under-represented.

Estimates put the number of trans people in America at about .06%. Yet this was a major part of the Progressive platform in 2016 and still is. Not only that, no current laws actually discriminate against trans people. So what exactly are Progressives fighting for in this case?

Progressives do this with just about everything. From climate, to plastic straws, to women’s pay, to the patriarchy – Progressives invent a doomsday scenario then pretend to be the ones who can fix it just so they can pat themselves on the back.

You see, they are fighting for nothing other than to make themselves feel like saviors. They simply take a group they deem as “lesser” than them then claim only they, the mighty Progressives can fight on behalf of these people. But as you can see, it’s actually demeaning as Progressives must put whoever they want to help into instant victim status and unable to help themselves.

The same can be said for Progressive cities that recently called for a ban on plastic straws. This does nothing to save the planet or anything else, but as I wrote early, it’s easy to do and that’s what Progressives are looking for.

Easy and conspicuous fake solutions are all Progressives are interested in.

Progressives don’t want to put in any actual work or research to solve a problem. That takes too much effort and commitment and all they really want is the credit anyway. So what better way to achieve their objective than to pass some nonsense law. Laws are easy to pass, and once passed, the Progressives can dust off their hands and pat themselves on the back, proclaiming that once again they’ve saved the world.

That’s why Progressives are so keen on new gun control laws. The evidence is obvious that tougher gun laws have no effect on criminals obtaining or using guns, in fact it’s the opposite. But that doesn’t stop Progressives from wanting to pass new laws. And the reason is because it’s easy. They can pass some silly law about background checks or magazine capacity then claim that they’ve saved hundreds of lives. It’s all just theater for Progressives and it simply feeds their need to be the world’s savior but without doing any actual saving.

So the next time you see a Progressive claiming that the world is going to end, stop and take a closer look. Chances are they’re just trying to set themselves up to once again feel they are saving the world, at least in their own minds.

theculturechronicles.com/index.php/2019/02/11/an-explanation-of-the-progressive-savior-complex/




OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just a little correction there...............................


LIEberals are ONLY PRETENDING to save the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In truth they will be satisfied IF THEY CAN SAVE THEY WONDERFUL GRAVY TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just look at the legal mess they can of something as simple as a day care worker pay cheque!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating how well our legal system works thanks to LIE-beral fiddling! With some comments of my own in brackets):

4 daycare workers still waiting for $18.5K in unpaid wages 10 months after ministry decision

By Chris Glover. CBC

Published: November 5, 2018

A daycare worker, who is seeking thousands of dollars in unpaid wages from her former employer, still hasn't received the money following an Ontario Ministry of Labour investigation that concluded in January.

A CBC Toronto investigation into the daycare provider, which receives public subsidies, found her story is not an isolated case.

(So this is involving Toronto Silly Hall Socialists who are providing the day care subsidies- but cannot be bothered making sure people get paid!)

Salma Sikder won her case Jan. 31 when an employment standards officer determined her former boss contravened several sections of the Employment Standards Act and awarded her a settlement of $9,057.52.

Salma Sikder says she's 'depressed' her former daycare has not paid back the more than $9,000 she is owed, despite a Ministry of Labour decision in January

Sikder's case is one of four Ministry of Labour decisions CBC Toronto has uncovered at the daycare. In each case, April Koster, the owner of Applewood Montessori Academy & Daycare Inc., was found to have contravened the rules.

The four women are owed $18,499.71 between them but, 10 months after the decisions, none of them have received the money, they say.

The Ministry of Labour probe found Salma Sikder was entitled to unpaid wages for roughly 580 hours between May 1, 2017 and Aug. 23, 2017, totalling $8,752.50. She was also not properly paid for public holidays or vacation pay, bringing the total to $9,057.52, according to the Ministry of Labour decision.

(This is the dirty little LIE-beral Socialist secret- they talk BIG about worker rights and about creating good jobs- but its ALL TALK! LIE-berals boast of how they put up the minimum wage but they are utterly SILENT about how they later taxed it all away again- and took MORE AS WELL! Bait and switch is a LIE-beral Mantra!!!!!)

Sikder filed her Ministry of Labour claim in September 2017, and showed CBC Toronto the money still hasn't shown up in her bank accounts.

"It's been one year since I applied to the labour board. They are trying to collect, trying to negotiate with Applewood and Ms. April ... but I don't have any updates."

CBC Toronto obtained four decisions against Applewood. In Sikder's decision, the employment standards officer wrote that Koster "stated that she owes the claimant wages, but not the amount the claimant alleges. No other evidence was provided by the employer to dispute the allegations of the claimant."

'I am not hiding from this debt,' daycare owner says

(Not hiding from the debt? Obviously there is NO NEED to hide from toothless legal decisions- that are not worth the paper they are printed on! This is LIE-beral justice in the raw! Uncaring and unresponsive and TOOTHLESS! Legal IMPOTENCE BREEDS scoff laws!!!!!!!!!!!)

In a written statement to CBC Toronto, Koster wrote: "There is no attempt to rip off employees. Businesses go through ups and downs and mine is no different and I am doing my best to resolve my issues as expeditiously as possible."

Koster said in some cases the women lied but she chose not to appeal because "it is not a good use of time."

"I am not hiding from this debt nor am I disputing it, I am paying it off as quickly as I can," said Koster. She said she has worked out a financial arrangement with the Ministry of Labour, but wouldn't provide proof.

(Uh huh - typical LIE-beral style legal crap- it costs to much to actually FIND and deal with the TRUTH! Last I heard it cost $750.00 to get a subpoena issued and of course it can be rendered USELESS at the last second by the simple expedient of the person you are suing simply sending a helper to tell the judge they cannot make it to court today! Then you must spend ANOTHER $750.00 for a new subpoena and new court date! Or GIVE UP legal solutions!)

(Endless stalling and costly delays forces many people to give up- taking the problem OUT OF SIGHT OF LIE-berals- which is what they WANT- for us to not bother them with OUR PERSONAL TRIVIA! LIE-berals want all the money and all the power and NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING!!!!!! )

Salma Sikder filed her Ministry of Labour claim in September 2017, and showed CBC Toronto the money still hasn’t shown up in her bank accounts.

Sikder played CBC Toronto voicemail messages from the Ministry's collections unit from this fall, which stated they had no updates for her.

(And yet LIE-berals BOAST of the great jobs they have created for us!!!!!!!!!!)

However, since CBC Toronto first started investigating the story, Sikder again reached out to collection services with the government, who confirmed Koster is working with them.

Sikder was told to call back in January for further updates.

Confusing partial payments cause headaches for workers.

(As anybody familiar with the legal system KNOWS- making a SMALL PARTIAL payment- that confuses all the numbers owing - is a GREAT WAY to force the entire legal matter back to Zero and a NEW START! LIE-berals, legal minds and thieves LOVE that bait and switch and STALL!!!)

(And of course maybe we should ask how cozy is the relationship between Silly Hall and the day care operator since the city COULD pull its subsidies and resolve this mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The employment standards officer found Koster paid $2,000 of those "unpaid wages" to Sikder during her employment. Partial payment was an overriding problem, CBC Toronto uncovered.

Shabana Akhtar worked at the daycare until Jun. 23, 2017. After complaining about missed wages directly to the owner, she was paid $901 in back pay during her employment, however the Ministry of Labour investigation found she should have been paid $3,363.75, according to the decision.

"Sometimes she used to pay in part. If she owed us $800 or $900, she would give us $500, or $200. So that's the habit, not only to me, all of our staff," Akhtar told CBC Toronto.

(So the boss is a tightwad and in our allegedly booming economy people cannot find any better jobs that will pay honestly!)

"Now I have lots of debt on me," she said.

Shortchanged with no termination pay, worker says

On June 23, 2017, Akhtar told Koster she couldn't be mistreated any longer and gave her verbal notice she was resigning on July 1, 2017.

To her surprise, Koster then gave her a written termination notice June 25, 2017, which was effective immediately.

The employment standards officer found Akhtar was not properly compensated for the termination and Koster was ordered to pay her $600 for that.

On Jan. 5 of this year, the Ministry of Labour probe determined Akhtar was owed $4,203.64. She said she has still not received it.

Aliya Janmohamed, 34, is owed $3,901.89 from Koster and she said the pay situation at the daycare was sketchy right from the beginning.

"My next paycheque was always being delayed, and delayed and delayed until I'm like, 'I'm fed up, I'm tired, I need my pay.' I earned that. I worked really hard," said Janmohamed.

Janmohamed said Koster offered to give her cash under the able.

(Ah- there is the dirty secret of the working world! And especially of the daycare biz! The LIE-beral choice to take over daycare seems to have been motivated in part to end those cozy paid under the table deals- LIE-berals WANT ALL THE TAXES PAID so they will get more gravy! The ugly reality is that costs and taxes ARE TOO HIGH in our “booming” economy! Most businesses are SQUEEZED between what customers can pay and what it costs to operate the biz -so “shortcuts” like under the table often become necessary!)

8 compliance orders against Applewood total $25,733.18

From Jan. 1, 2015, until Aug. 23, 2018, CBC Toronto found there were 20 Employment Standards Claims against Applewood Montessori Academy & Daycare for issues including payment of wages, public holiday pay and termination pay.

Seven claims were withdrawn, one was denied, four are still being investigated and eight compliance notices were ordered against Applewood totalling $25,733.18, according to the Ministry of Labour.

(Oh- SEVEN CLAIMS WITHDRAWN? Why? Did some people despair of getting justice in our legal system and simply move on- poorer but wiser?)

Once a case has been decided, the employer has 30 days to comply with the order or appeal. The body that handles those appeals, the Ontario Labour Relations Board, had no records of an appeal application from Applewood.

After the 30-day period of no payment or no appeal, delinquent cases are handed over to a government collections unit.

(So there is an actual govt collections agency THAT CANNOT COLLECT from a company getting GOVT SUBSIDIES? How truly impotent is LIE-beral LAW?)

The four women CBC Toronto spoke to are part of a bigger problem, according to records from the Ministry of Labour.

For example, in the 2017/18 fiscal year, Ministry of Labour officers assessed $25.7 million worth of claims, however only $20 million was recovered, which might include claims from previous years.

(Yes- the LIE-beral Hog collection process does seem to involve multiple years of IMPOTENT EFFORT but it does not stop them collecting their Hog gravy every week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Why not? 95% of the tax code is special provisions that apply only to the .05% who are the very richest.

When you are faced with binary choices from the past that do not reflect current reality (and probably didn't reflect reality even back then), you have two choices: either make or interpret your societal rules to account for them, or insist that what was good enuff fer yer daddy is by Gawd good enuff fer you!

So, if you want to be a narrow-minded bigot deliberately shutting his eyes to reality, go for it. It's a lifestyle choice.
Not blinding myself at all . I don’t believe any subset of society should be discriminated against , however I do not believe laws should be enacted simply to pander to certain groups , no matter who they ar3 and what historical injustices they endured .
 

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Not blinding myself at all . I don’t believe any subset of society should be discriminated against , however I do not believe laws should be enacted simply to pander to certain groups , no matter who they ar3 and what historical injustices they endured .
No more special "bringing home the bacon" treatment for pigs, eh? I'll bet that you get "entitlements" of some sort that you believe you are "entitled" to.