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spilledthebeer

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The Chinese are hell-bent on starting WWIII.


Oh NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


China HAS NO REAL INTENTION OF STARTING A WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chinese Soviets are simply using the Hitler/Nazi method to over awe some. intimidate others and bribe where necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in true Soviet style, Chinese leaders seek out and befriend those LIE-berals that Lenin once referred to as "Useful Idiots"!


Lenin went on to explain that the useful idiots could be relied upon to sell Soviets the rope needed to HANG the west!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And KEY among the useful idiots of our modern age is the Trudeau family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has been working very hard to undermine Cdn relations with United States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fortunately, cooler heads are prevailing and the popularity of Our idiot Boy is fading like snow in July!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article suggesting that two key LIE-beral claims are not worth the paper they are printed on! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Vancouver Home Sales Plunge 42.5% In November, To Lowest Level Since Great Recession

By Daniel Tencer

Originally published at Huffington Post. December 5, 2018

Vancouver home sales recorded their lowest levels in a decade in November, amid some analysts' warnings that the market could be headed for something worse than a mild correction.

(And shall we guess that the LIE-beral assertions about our “booming economy” are ALSO more than SLIGHT EXAGGERATIONS? LIE-berals LOVE to boast of new jobs created but they do leave out certain details! Such as how the new jobs are too often temporary, short term, contract, low wage McJobs! LIE-berals boast of creating this starvation wage stuff even as GOOD jobs disappear!)

The 1,608 home sales in the metro area in November represented a 42.5-per-cent decline from the same month a year earlier, and the lowest level of sales for the month since 2008, the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver said Tuesday.

(And recently, LIE-berals have been boasting of the NEW Canada Revenue Agency crack down on real tax evaders who are often foreign born! On the one hand LIE-berals want to boast of making foreign “investors” pay properly- and on the other hand they DO NOT want us asking if this sudden drop in house sales is related to foreign organized crime money launderers getting out of the Cdn real estate biz due to LONG OVER DUE govt attention to tax cheats????)

(After all, LIE-berals have often DENIED that foreign money was rapidly driving up house prices in Vancouver- even as the number of Chinese “investors” in Canada increased to such a point that Cdn real estate listing are now being carried on main land China web sites!)

With buyers absent from the market, the number of homes available for sale has soared, up 40.7 per cent in a year, REBGV said.

Vancouver home sales recorded their lowest levels in a decade in November, amid some analysts' warnings that the market could be headed for something worse than a mild correction.

(And should we ask if the Huawei squabble over that Chinese company CEO being arrested in Vancouver for allegedly cheating on United Nations sanctions against Iran might also have prompted Chinese investors to abandon Cdn real estate markets in hope of causing economic instability?)

"Home prices have declined between four and seven per cent over the last six months depending on property type. We'll watch conditions in the first quarter of 2019 to see if home buyer demand picks up ahead of the traditionally more active spring market," REBGV president Phil Moore said.

(Many Cdn municipalities RELY on steady increases in house values- with attendant increases in property taxes- to help fund their regular pay increases to civil service union Hogs- who are engaged in a huge conflict of interest by voting for the party- usually LIE-berals- but sometimes NDP - who give them the greatest gobs of gravy! Is the stability of our govt and banking system now endangered by the sudden economic stress caused by falling house values?)

(Even more troubling is the fact that many Cdns RELY on steadily increasing house values to fund their retirement! If house values fall then retirement becomes UNAFFORDABLE for many Cdns!)

The benchmark price of a detached home was just above $1.5 million in November, down 6.5 per cent from a year earlier. Condo apartments clocked in at $667,800, up 2.3 per cent from a year earlier but down 2.3 per cent from October.

(And how soon before there is a property owners revolt against higher taxes on devalued homes? LIE-berals have created a perfect storm with their Fake News!!!)

At the pace properties are selling today, the detached-home market is well into buyer's territory, while townhomes and condos have fallen from "seller's markets" to "balanced markets" in the past few months, and appear poised to drop into "buyer's market" territory soon.

(LIE-berals wanted to create more stability in our home markets with their tighter mortgage rules and now they have that- reduced prices result in SMALLER MORTGAGES and - in theory anyway- greater afford ability? So why the sudden concern for housing prices? Except that LIE-beral minded municipalities rely rather strongly on real estate taxes for a notable chunk of revenue- meaning yet MORE govt difficulty in meeting Hog demands for more gravy!)

(HOW can LIE-berals get re-elected if the Hog demands for gravy are NOT MET? And how can LIE-berals get re-elected if they cannot BUY votes from bigots at Black Lives Matter and Idle No More natives and from the teeming hordes of illegals that LIE-berals were also hoping to BUY? AS Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals can attest- a failure to supply sufficient gravy to Hogs and other special interest groups as demanded means LIE-berals hit the unemployment line!)

Earlier on HuffPost Canada:

Chinese Real Estate Buyers Flock To Montreal As New Taxes Take Toll On Toronto, Vancouver
Vancouver Luxury Housing Market Drops From World's Hottest To Dead Last

(Yes- in addition to Canada Revenue Agency cracking down on foreign tax cheats; Vancouver has also passed a new tax on vacant houses- and we can guess that this will be very annoying to those foreign investors that LIE-berals CLAIM do not exist in any large numbers!! We can guess that foreign investors do not want their investments encumbered with cheap ass tenants- especially since Cdn law lets the tenants essentially STAY as long as they like since the eviction process is like all other LIE-beral law- convoluted and time consuming! The wise seller wants the house in pristine condition- not looking well lived in by tenants - with their laundry and dirty dishes and occasional neglect of mowing the lawn and etc!)

A number of industry experts and insiders have suggested that Canada's housing markets have achieved the desired "soft landing" — a slowdown in sales and price growth, making the market more sustainable in the long run.

But these experts seem to have their eye on Toronto, where prices and sales have stabilized in recent months, following a slump that began in 2017.

(Yes- is it not ODD that the Toronto housing market started its slide right around the time Wynne-bag LIE-berals began to fear that public opinion was HARD AGAINST THEM! We all know that Hogs are the best paid Cdns and so if Hogs are afraid for their jobs and gravy- then they do not buy any big ticket items! Is the defeat of Wynne-bag LIE-berals the catalyst for slumping Toronto house sales?)

Vancouver's market, on the other hand, is headed for a "bumpy landing," said Stephen Brown, senior Canada economist at Capital Economics.

(And of course the B. C. LIE-beral minority govt has been superceeeded by an NDP govt suitable to Hog- meaning no great political shock like the Ontari-owe election of Premier Ford!)

"After the stabilisation of the Toronto housing market this year, it's tempting to think that the deterioration in the Vancouver market will end in a soft landing," Brown wrote in a client note last week.

"But Vancouver housing is more overvalued, and there are clear signs of excess supply coming to the market in the next couple of years."
Excessive prices, too much construction.

(Ah yes- and how much of that Vancouver problem was driven by now spooked Chinese investors? With some experts suggestion foreign house flippers have moved on to Montreal?)

Vancouver has been ranked repeatedly as the least affordable housing market in North America. A 2017 survey from Point2 Homes estimated a typical Vancouver home costs 17.3 times the average income, compared to 7.5 times income in Toronto, and 4.2 times income in Montreal.

Tough new mortgage rules brought into place at the start of the year have had more of an effect on Vancouver, because more buyers there were maxing out their mortgages, Brown wrote.

What's more, Vancouver may be building too many new homes these days, Brown suggested.

(I guess it is difficult to predict how many houses might be needed if most of the buyers are foreigners laundering dirty money? There seems to be a LOT of LIE-beral driven cause and effect in Vancouver housing! No LIE-beral law enforcement meant criminals had a field day!)
 

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Poland arrests Huawei employee over spying allegations

Poland's counterintelligence agency has arrested an employee of Chinese tech giant Huawei over spying allegations.
According to Polish TV broadcaster Telewizja Polska, Huawei's sales director and an ex-security agent were arrested on Tuesday by officers of the country's Internal Security Agency, charged with espionage.
The Huawei employee is reportedly a Chinese national, while the former security agent is a Polish national who recently worked for Orange Polska.
Huawei and French telecommunications firm Orange's offices were searched and documents seized by the Internal Security Agency, the broadcaster reported.
A spokesperson for Huawei said the company, which overtook Apple as the world's second-largest smartphone manufacturer last year, is aware of the situation.
"Huawei is aware of the situation, and we are looking into it," the spokesperson said." "We have no comment for the time being."
The spokesperson added: "Huawei complies with all applicable laws and regulations in the countries where it operates, and we require every employee to abide by the laws and regulations in the countries where they are based."
Orange and Poland's Internal Security Agency were not immediately available for comment.
 

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China issues travel warning for Canada after "arbitrary detention" of national

BEIJING, Jan 15 (Reuters) - China on Tuesday issued a travel advisory for Canada, warning its citizens to "fully evaluate risks" and exercise caution when traveling there.
The foreign ministry's consular affairs department, in the advisory issued on its official WeChat account, cited the "arbitrary detention" of a Chinese national in Canada at the request of a "third-party country."
Beijing and Ottawa have been at odds since early December, when Canadian police arrested Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies Co Ltd, at the behest of the United States.
 

White_Unifier

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The Chinese are hell-bent on starting WWIII.

Which Chinese? The mainland ones or the Taiwanese ones?

The way I read Xi Jingping's statement is something like this:

'We're one national family and we love you, so if you break away from us, we'll destroy you.'

How's that for insane?
 
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Which Chinses? The mainland ones or the Taiwanese ones?

The way I read Xi Jingping's statement is something like this:

'We're one national family and we love you, so if you break away from us, we'll destroy you.'

How's that for insane?
How's that for being a mirror of what happened to Cuba?
 

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Which Chinese? The mainland ones or the Taiwanese ones?
The way I read Xi Jingping's statement is something like this:
'We're one national family and we love you, so if you break away from us, we'll destroy you.'
How's that for insane?
China is not-quite-ready-to-be-the-leading-power-of-this-planet.
 

spilledthebeer

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Which Chinese? The mainland ones or the Taiwanese ones?

The way I read Xi Jingping's statement is something like this:

'We're one national family and we love you, so if you break away from us, we'll destroy you.'

How's that for insane?


Oh now...........you are talking rather silly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


China DOES NOT WANT TO START A WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They just want to baffle, bully and intimidate us so badly that we will allow them to strut and bully us as if we had surrendered after suffering a crushing defeat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is not starting a war- but IT IS a lot like winning one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy Justin wants to help the Chinese in their victory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating exactly how out of touch Our idiot Boy is with regard to trade and national security issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Chinese ambassador says Trudeau's 'progressive' agenda has no place in free trade pact

From Canadian Press. Published: April 10, 2018. Updated: April 10, 2018 4:26 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

OTTAWA — China’s ambassador says his country firmly rejects Canada’s attempts to entrench labour standards in a free trade pact.

Envoy Lu Shaye says Canada’s so-called progressive trade agenda has no place in a free trade agreement.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was unable to persuade China’s leaders to formally entrench labour, gender, environment and governance issues in the negotiating framework of free trade talks.

(It is silly enough for Our idiot Boy to talk progressive trade issues with our Yankee allies but it is quite utterly INSANE to talk progressive issues with China! China has a LONG HISTORY of using convicted criminals and political prisoners in dangerous and dirty jobs- working these social undesirables as slave labour! Our idiot Boy actually thought he could discuss women`s issues and the rights of people labouring in Chinese Galags with his Chinese pals! The Chinese must have wondered what Our idiot Boy was smoking? Or maybe they were just put off by his tactless stupidity and hunger for selfies?)

(After all, Pierre Trudeau heaped fawning praise on Chairman Mao for “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows”! And Our idiot Boy told us a couple of years back that he admires the Chinese Communist Party “for the way they get things done”! And idiot brother Sacha Trudope penned an homage to vile Cuban dictator Castro in which he claimed that “Castro ws the greatest South American leader of the twentieth century- and much superior to other leaders who had only been elected”!)

(And yet- there was Our idiot Boy whining about progressive social issues to Chinese leaders who consider the entire Trudeau clan to be “useful idiots”- to use the Lenin phrase! China will be polite enough to the Trudopes when it is convenient for China! But they have no desire to become props in the psycho drama being played out by a silver spoon socialist with “daddy issues” like Our idiot Boy!)

(Pierre Trudeau has clearly indoctrinated his boys fully into his poisoned mind set that includes such philosophical gems a these: “that the war against Nazi Germany was British imperialism” and that what Pierre referred to as “Cdn Imperialism” has to be destroyed- apparently Pierre was referring to what we now call “white privilege”! With such a twisted freak family back ground it is little wonder that Our idiot Boy thinks that Isis fighters returning to Canada “can become a powerful voice in our country”! And there is little surprise that Chinese leaders refused to be part of the Trudope progressive trade parade that seems motivated mainly by a hope that Our idiot Boy can find some international approval and support for the wsy he is deliberately screwing up NAFTA to spite the Yankees that he hates!)

Trudeau spent four days in China in December but left without a formal commitment to moving the free trade talks past the exploratory phase into formal negotiations.

Lu says Canada’s insistence on pushing labour standards in the NAFTA talks with Mexico to raise wages would only lead to the shuttering of Mexican auto plants and lost jobs.

(Yes- the Chinese see more clearly than Our idiot Boy! The jobs went to Mexico as a vital way to control rising union costs and make Yankee cars more affordable- in the face of formidable sales pressure from other auto makers around the world! A trade agreement that raised Mexican wages WOULD result in CLOSED Mexican car plants as higher prices killed car sales!)

Lu says starting a free trade negotiation with Canada would send a strong message to the world as it contends with the Trump administration’s “America First” protectionism.

(Our idiot Boy would be DELIGHTED to set up a free trade deal with China! The problem is that such a deal would GUT CDN SOVEREIGNTY! Chinese negotiators play HARD BALL! A free trade deal with China would make those current Trump demands on national security- which would BENEFIT CANADA AS WELL AS YANKEES- seem simple and mild compared to Chinese requirements for a deal! Our idiot Boy must have been badly disappointed at having his progressive trade shtick so bluntly rebuffed by the Chinese after having spent so many years as a dedicated, card carrying member of the silver spoon socialist “useful idiot” brigade!)
 

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China jailing of rights lawyer a 'mockery' of law, says rights group


Yes- LIE-berals are DEDICATED to human rights- as long as it does not interfere with their supply of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cn ambassador to China -John McCallum was fired for exposing the TRUE BELIEFS of LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are playing silly national security games with Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals truly believe that China is not a danger- in spite of the relentless Chinese military build up and endless acts of industrial espionage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn LIE-berals are such monstrous HYPOCRITES that they cannot distinguish between a Chinese dissident with an honest complaint about civil rights violations and an angry Cdn voter who thinks the LIE-beral waste and deficit spending is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals sincerely believe that ANY PERSON who is critical of socialist values is AUTOMATICALLY IN THE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are hell bent on building a Brave New World- and it will be built of LIES and unasked questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating the skewed values of our LIE-beral overlords. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Miss World goes where PM fears.

By Mike Strobel, Toronto Sun. First posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:10 PM EST | Updated: Friday, December 16, 2016 07:31 AM EST

Canada’s miss on a mission is shaking up the Miss World Pageant, tackling China over human rights abuses. She is doing Canada proud.

She’s got more cojones than our prime minister.

If Justin Trudeau is China’s patsy, Anastasia Lin, 26, of Scarborough, is its pest.

“China intimidates and threatens,” she told me as she prepared for the pageant, Sunday in Washington D.C.

You can’t blame China, really, for those tactics. They seem to be working on Team Trudeau.

When Beijing bigwig Wang Yi tossed a tantrum because some journo asked about human rights, his wussy counterpart, foreign minister Stephane Dion, reacted like he had a mouthful of marshmallows.

Justin, meanwhile, cozies up to Chinese billionaires at Liberal fundraisers. The PM claims he’s always raising human rights issues — tough to do while scarfing down caviar.

(A collection of Chinese Communist bankers have just been given permission to open a Cdn bank branch- shortly after one of those rather notorious “pay for access meet and greet” deals so beloved of LIE-berals- and isnt it odd that immediately after the meet and greet the Chinese bankers contributed a million dollars to a Trudope family charitable fund- and then GOT their go ahead for the new bank?)

Has anyone ever actually seen Trudeau Junior collar a commie, so to speak, over abuse of prisoners of conscience, over organ harvest, over such trifles as freedom of the press, association, expression and religion?

Perhaps he’s leaving it to Ms. Lin. Abandoning her to the Beijing bullies, in other words.

“I feel vulnerable,” she recently told me of her government’s feeble stance. “It’s me against the world.”

Kowtowing to bullies never works. They eat your lunch.

Our miss on a mission knows the ire of the People’s Republic. She was Miss World Canada 2015, too, but was barred from competing at the international show by its host country last year. You guessed it. China.

Why the cold shoulder? Because Lin, all 5-foot-6 of her, is a fearless critic of China’s abuses, including reports of state prisoners slaughtered for the organ trade, especially her fellow Falun Gong followers.

“I wanted to be a voice for the voiceless,” she told me, “but I didn’t understand how hard that is.” Even this week at the pageant itself, nestled in the capital of the free world.

A friend of hers tells me Anastasia got a message from her father, still in China, saying “he couldn’t take it anymore.”

Anastasia says Chinese authorities have squeezed her dad’s business relentlessly since she hit headlines last year, and refused him a travel permit for the pageant.

Miss World brass have told her to keep a lid on during the pageant. As an ex-Miss Universe judge, I know how sticky pageant protocol can be.

Why shun publicity, when the Miss World motto is Beauty With a Purpose? Or does the long arm of Beijing reach even a beauty pageant stage?

Lin did manage one interview, with Associated Press, with the same message she gave me last month.

“Everybody is tied economically with China,” she told AP. “China’s soft power is so huge that no one really dares to speak up.”

I hope she wins Sunday. I hope she can stare down China while wearing a sash that says Miss World.

She could teach our prime minister a thing or two.
 

White_Unifier

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I'm sure that the Chinese could give a rat's ass about what the Turks .... and everybody else thinks about them.

Uighurs (an indigenous ethnic group in China's Xinjiang) speak Uighur, a language so close to Turkish that we can debate whether to consider them dialects of one another or two separate languages. Without knowing one another's languages, they can still understand one another a fair bit, and of course they can learn one another's languages quite easily.

As a result, the Turks and the Uighurs feel a certain kinship and I can imagine that the Chinese government doesn't like that too much.
 

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It was many years ago when Jean Chretien - in regards to how he could do business with a cruel and repressive regime like the Chinese - remarked that he couldn't tell the Premier of Saskatchewan what to do , how could he be expected to tell the Chinese what to do.

Pretty much every prime minster since has taken the same cynical approach.

To be honest trade with China is morally wrong, regardless of how much money there is on the table.
 

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It was many years ago when Jean Chretien - in regards to how he could do business with a cruel and repressive regime like the Chinese - remarked that he couldn't tell the Premier of Saskatchewan what to do , how could he be expected to tell the Chinese what to do.
Pretty much every prime minster since has taken the same cynical approach.
To be honest trade with China is morally wrong, regardless of how much money there is on the table.

Trade with China benefits the common Chinese. Why punish the people for the actions of their government? Trade with China makes us more interdependent. Allowing more Chinese into Canada increases Canadian influence on the Chinese mind. Why cut all of that off?
 

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It is morally wrong to support this regime.


Same reason for not trading with the Nazis or the Romulans