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The latest rumor in the 911 conspiracy is that all the hi-jackers were pilots in the Taliban Drug Cartel that flew the little heroin they were allowed to produce around to their clients. The flight flown by the Pentegram was a patented move for that particular pilot when flying the galloping gooses they were used to back home. Only on 911 he was a passenger to a computer controlled flight.
Do you think he knew who it was that stabbed him in the back as OBL could not take control of the electronics of a plane?

Concept, 'Who killed John O'Neal.' 911 investigation docuimentary


Really?? I could handle you singing a Irish Lullaby instead of you being your usual self.
If it became common knowledge that a teaspoon of heroin in 5 gallons of drinking water made you happy and wise there would be a bottle of that water in every home and business in North America. (at a lot lower price that it has cost to fight the 'war on drugs' which is really a war to keep the drugs out of the hands of the common people who would have the lights turned on that they have intentionally been kept in the dark on purpose by the ones who have have total access to the best drugs around. They are easy to spot as they also make the most on the black market and in the pharma industry.
On second though perhaps you are better off in the make believe world.
I think it's wonderful you have veveryone figured out sir.
 

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Fentanyl-laced bubble gum found near Newfoundland overdose victim: Cops
Canadian Press
Published:
February 4, 2019
Updated:
February 4, 2019 3:46 PM EST
RCMP in Newfoundland released this image showing a likeness of the packaging which contained bubble gum with narcotics. (RCMP))
BAY ROBERTS, N.L. — Police in Newfoundland are urging caution after finding bubble gum with traces of narcotics near an overdose victim.
RCMP said Monday that police officers in Bay Roberts recovered the roll of what appeared to be Hubba Bubba bubble gum tape at the site of a recent overdose.
The gum tested positive for fentanyl, a particularly potent narcotic that can be fatal in small amounts.
The victim, a man about 30 years old, survived after the responding officer administered naloxone nasal spray.
As of Monday afternoon, the source of the gum was still under investigation, though it is believed to have originated outside of Newfoundland.
Cpl. Matthew Christie said police believe the man received the gum in the mail and did not purchase it at a local store, meaning the contamination likely did not happen at a factory level.

http://torontosun.com/news/crime/fe...-found-near-newfoundland-overdose-victim-cops
 

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Nine people died from overdoses in Vancouver overnight, says Vancouver’s police chief.

Chief Adam Palmer made the announcement on Friday morning, and joined Vancouver mayor Gregor Robertson in calling for the provincial government to shift its focus from harm-reduction to addiction treatment in fighting the region’s opioid crisis.

The chief called for both detox help and longer-term treatment for those who claim they’re ready to get off drugs.

“Imagine you’re a person addicted to drugs” and homeless with a mental illness. People who want to get help are told to wait nine days, he said.

Robertson expressed concerns about the “horrific” impact that important harm-reduction work has on those providing it. He added that governments have not properly dealt with the root causes of drug addiction nor given enough attention to treatment, and we are now seeing the results of that.

“It’s desperate times in Vancouver, and it’s hard to see any silver lining,” Robertson said. “We’ve been treading water for many years with Canada’s only harm-reduction strategy of note.”

Mental health and the housing crisis have played a role in addiction and the current overdose epidemic, Robertson added.

On Tuesday, the City of Vancouver approved a 3.9-per-cent property tax increase that included 0.5 per cent earmarked specifically to fight the city’s drug crisis.

Fentanyl is the primary enemy, although other, more toxic synthetic opioids have begun to appear on the street in recent months.

John McKearney, Vancouver’s fire chief, said the City of Vancouver has shown leadership, but the provincial government needs to become more involved in providing treatment for members of the community.

Nine die from overdoses overnight in Vancouver





Guess China is supplying a drug that will kill from inside the country - they don't need to do anything else but wait for stupid people to kill themselves. Having said that, doctors who were prescribing and now refuse to prescribe opioids to people with serious chronic pain and who have been on them for years and were doing well. Now some of these people are either committing suicide or buying drugs on the streets that kill. Unfortunately, those who haven't a clue have decided that the opioid crisis is a result of prescribed opioids which is not true and has been proven not to be true.


The issue isn't prescribed drugs; the issue is illegal drugs that have been tampered with and that kill.


JMHO
 

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the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug
 

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hello. am new on this forum. am only trying to navigate this forum to become familiar with it.
most importantly, i need a friend to put me through on how to use this forum properly. thanks.


Yes- fentanyl does the size of a grain of sand is LETHAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That is why it is so easy to over dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Such small quantities are hard to measure accurately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course criminals dont care if they slip up and kill a customer once in a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug





Roy Greene has addressed this issue repeatedly and in depth and has interviewed, on the radio with pain specialists (who are willing to talk publicly) and those who are not for fear of losing their licenses and other individuals who are involved in prescribing these pain medications and authorities and they will all tell you the same thing. While there may be SOME prescription drugs involved, MOST of the deaths due to opioids are from illegally sourced drugs.


It is extremely disingenuous to say that MOST deaths are caused by prescribed drugs because that is factually wrong! Ask any Border agent about how much "fentanyl" has been captured trying to come into our country and they'll tell you that they only get a small portion of what is coming into the country, mostly from China.


In the meantime, the people who actually need these opioids and who have tried everything else before even getting them prescribed, are suffering because doctors are no longer prescribing them which has left them in extreme pain - pain that nothing else will relieve.


Insofar as prescribed opioids, since most (if not all) doctors won't prescribe them anymore because their Medical Associations will take their licenses, why is it that these so-called prescribed drugs are supposedly still killing? It's because they're not. It's the crap that is being imported that is doing the killing. Doctors have not been prescribing these pills for at least 2 years now and I hear that the situation is only becoming worse. How is that happening?


So, the politicians and medical associations have completely missed the mark on all these deaths and have, in fact, condemned those who need these medications to a life of constant and extreme pain simply because people on the street are dying. It's all well and good to try to do something about these deaths but putting one segment of our society over another is not the way to do it.


The whole thing has been handled badly by those who have jumped to conclusions and refuse to take the advice of the people who actually know what they're talking about.


JMHO
 

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Roy Greene has addressed this issue repeatedly and in depth and has interviewed, on the radio with pain specialists (who are willing to talk publicly) and those who are not for fear of losing their licenses and other individuals who are involved in prescribing these pain medications and authorities and they will all tell you the same thing. While there may be SOME prescription drugs involved, MOST of the deaths due to opioids are from illegally sourced drugs.


It is extremely disingenuous to say that MOST deaths are caused by prescribed drugs because that is factually wrong! Ask any Border agent about how much "fentanyl" has been captured trying to come into our country and they'll tell you that they only get a small portion of what is coming into the country, mostly from China.


In the meantime, the people who actually need these opioids and who have tried everything else before even getting them prescribed, are suffering because doctors are no longer prescribing them which has left them in extreme pain - pain that nothing else will relieve.


Insofar as prescribed opioids, since most (if not all) doctors won't prescribe them anymore because their Medical Associations will take their licenses, why is it that these so-called prescribed drugs are supposedly still killing? It's because they're not. It's the crap that is being imported that is doing the killing. Doctors have not been prescribing these pills for at least 2 years now and I hear that the situation is only becoming worse. How is that happening?


So, the politicians and medical associations have completely missed the mark on all these deaths and have, in fact, condemned those who need these medications to a life of constant and extreme pain simply because people on the street are dying. It's all well and good to try to do something about these deaths but putting one segment of our society over another is not the way to do it.


The whole thing has been handled badly by those who have jumped to conclusions and refuse to take the advice of the people who actually know what they're talking about.


JMHO


Yes- Dixie- HOID is a spectacularly NASTY LIE-beral propaganda spreader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to read about the Opiod crisis on a typical native reserve to understand how badly LIE-berals are failing us all!!!!!!!!!!!


As the article I posted below describes- there seems to be NO EFFORT on the part of cops to trace where or how native addicts are getting their "prescription"s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Corrupt doctors???????????????????


Bribery??????????????????????????


Intimidation???????????????????????????


LIE-berals DO NOT consider it worth spending THEIR GRAVY on any solutions or real investigations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to BUY VOTES- not argue with drug addicts about dangerous habits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Officials declare state of emergency over drug crisis on Stoney Nakoda First Nation.

By Michele Jarvie, Postmedia. First posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 07:10 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:26 AM EDT

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

Topic: The opioid crisis. The three First Nations bands near Morley are in a crisis situation over extremely high rates of prescription drug addictions and overdoses among members. With addiction rates surging as high as 60% among adult members of the reserve, Stoney Nakoda has declared a state of emergency.

(How can people be referred to as a `nation` when the `national` income is almost entirely welfare money sent over from another `nation`?)

“We had something like 139 deaths attributed to opiates within a two-year period on the nation,” said Lindsay Blackett, CEO of the Chiniki band, one of three that comprise Stoney Nakoda. “There’s only 6,000 people on the whole reserve so that’s a significant number vis-à-vis the population.”

He said fentanyl is the No. 1 culprit on the reserve — the same deadly drug that is devastating communities across Canada. More than 270 Albertans died from fentanyl overdoses last year with at least 20 deaths on the southern Blood Reserve alone since the summer of 2014.

A prescription painkiller, fentanyl is up to 100 times more potent than morphine and is often passed off as a new form of OxyContin. “A lot of people are abusing it. And once you’re hooked, that’s a jealous mistress. Once it hooks you, it wrecks your life,” said Blackett.

“It’s not a reflection on one particular community. It’s not like we’re the only ones dealing with it. It’s widespread and not just in the native population. It’s just more pronounced in the native population.” Blackett noted the opiate crisis is just part of a larger drug and alcohol challenge being faced on the reserve.

Health Canada officials say they have been working with First Nations’ chiefs and administration and the Alberta government to support the communities and address complex issues of mental illness and suicide, addictions, chronic disease and improve access to quality health care.

(There is no practical way to improve access to health care on tiny reserves when Ontari-owe LIE-berals are closing hospitals in moderate sized CITIES! And LIE-berals were caught lying about how many hospitals were actually closed! But not to worry- the money saved was spent on Muslim `invaders` crossing our borders!)

On June 17, federal Health Minister Jane Philpott announced new actions to address opioid misuse, which includes better prescribing practices and treatment options, reducing easy access to unnecessary opioids and improving the national evidence base.

Health Canada funds $86 million annually for addictions support for First Nations and Inuit communities through the National Native Alcohol and Drug Abuse Program and the National Youth Solvent Abuse Program. Through these programs, a network of 43 treatment centres is supported, as well as drug and alcohol prevention services in the majority of First Nations and Inuit communities.

Alberta Health Minister Sarah Hoffman says the province has been working with First Nations on responding to the fentanyl crisis, with addictions treatment and education. Government officials are also sharing electronic data to help First Nations roll out immunization programs.

(What does child immunization have to do with adults being a drugged up mess?)

“We know that First Nations peoples are struggling with higher rates of diabetes, addictions and poverty — all of which contribute to poorer health outcomes.”

(Drugged up addicts just don’t have a proper work ethic! Nor do they eat well since drugs and alcohol take up so much of their budget! Perhaps LIE-berals can somehow BUY a solution for them?)

The high number of addicted adults on the Morley-area reserve is anecdotal at best as actual numbers are not known. Prescription opioid addiction numbers are not tracked, nor are deaths unless they are related to fentanyl — a drug that appeared on the streets in 2012 and has become the single-largest public health threat in Alberta.

(I say this lack of `numbers` indicates that some activists and poverty pimps DON’T WANT to `find` the numbers. Some appear worried that respect for natives will plummet if the extent of their addictions and troubles are fully known. Others appear concerned that full disclosure of troubles will result in White Govt taking away much of the power and authority of band councils and imposing decisions on bands in order to force more responsible govt into place-a course of action that IS desperately needed!)

(The spectacle of Atiwapiskat Chief Teresa Spence refusing to discuss how she and her political allies burned through ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS of govt money in five years without using a penny to build the housing that the cash was earmarked for-AND without being able to show a single receipt for all that cash-while band members lived in tents and shacks in the Arctic winter is a thing that leaves a BAD TASTE in the mouths of many Cdn tax payers!)

“We really do a poor job on surveillance of opioid overdose deaths and that’s a good way to measure addictions,” said Alberta addictions specialist Hakique Virani. “We don’t count it unless it’s fentanyl. Until we do that, we don’t have a handle on numbers.”

Virani was not surprised by the suggestion that 50 to 60% of Stoney Nakoda residents are prescription addicts. In fact, he suspects the number is higher in the adult population.

Asked how people can repeatedly get drugs prescribed, sometimes for years at a time, Virani said it often happens because no one asks questions. Or they’re ill-equipped to deal with the fallout.

(Or perhaps some drug company sales people and doctors are simply committing criminal acts by supplying drugged up natives and profiting nicely from it?)

“The patient may not even be complaining of anything wrong. When doctors inherit patients with prescription addictions, often they’ll just perpetually refill it because there may not be any complaint of side-effects.

(Or are some doctors being THREATENED if they do not refill the prescriptions? Doctors are sworn to “do no harm” and simply handing out drugs with no questions asked sounds a lot like harm and blackmail to me!)

“Even if they are demonstrating signs of dependency, would the best thing be to cut them off? No,” said Virani, who treats patients at an Edmonton methadone clinic and teaches at the University of Alberta. He has been critical of the government’s handling of the fentanyl drug crisis.

(What? Cutting off the supply of a dangerous drug is a BAD thing? How?)

“It’s a difficult dilemma. It is dangerous to keep prescribing but in the absence of safe and effective treatment for dependency, what do you do?”

(Its especially difficult to treat people who insist on staying in the same miserable, corrupt conditions that originally persuaded them to chemically alter their mood!)

Treatment for prescription opiate drug addiction includes stabilizing patients with other long-acting medications such as methadone or Suboxone. Counseling for underlying issues is also needed or more advanced therapy for psychiatric or psychological trauma.

(But of course there is no such handy stabilization option on benighted reserves!)

But methadone and Suboxone can be dangerous medications so use of them requires following monitoring protocols, which can be difficult to do in remote areas or First Nations reserves with limited access to health clinics and doctors.

“It’s unfortunately not a unique situation for First Nations in Alberta, it’s not a unique situation for some towns in Alberta. An entire provincial problem is poor access to treatment. And it’s not changing near fast enough.”

Virani said Alberta needs to rethink how local practitioners are supported. He pointed to a project that is working well in Slave Lake, where the province partnered with First Nations bands to provide telemedicine in co-operation with practitioners on site.

(One obvious obstacle to such a solution is GETTING practitioners on site! Natives who have the drive and determination to BECOME practitioners often are reluctant to return to the mess they worked so hard to escape! And they certainly would not want to bring their children to live in such an isolated and messed up place! If past news reports are correct then it is often unsafe for even armed police officers after dark in the worst off reserves in times of crisis!)

“If we’re creative and committed to addressing this problem, we can do it. Until we accept it’s a public health emergency, we’ll continue to bail out a sinking ship with a spoon.”
 

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Roy Greene has addressed this issue repeatedly and in depth and has interviewed, on the radio with pain specialists (who are willing to talk publicly) and those who are not for fear of losing their licenses and other individuals who are involved in prescribing these pain medications and authorities and they will all tell you the same thing. While there may be SOME prescription drugs involved, MOST of the deaths due to opioids are from illegally sourced drugs.
It is extremely disingenuous to say that MOST deaths are caused by prescribed drugs because that is factually wrong! Ask any Border agent about how much "fentanyl" has been captured trying to come into our country and they'll tell you that they only get a small portion of what is coming into the country, mostly from China.
In the meantime, the people who actually need these opioids and who have tried everything else before even getting them prescribed, are suffering because doctors are no longer prescribing them which has left them in extreme pain - pain that nothing else will relieve.
Insofar as prescribed opioids, since most (if not all) doctors won't prescribe them anymore because their Medical Associations will take their licenses, why is it that these so-called prescribed drugs are supposedly still killing? It's because they're not. It's the crap that is being imported that is doing the killing. Doctors have not been prescribing these pills for at least 2 years now and I hear that the situation is only becoming worse. How is that happening?
So, the politicians and medical associations have completely missed the mark on all these deaths and have, in fact, condemned those who need these medications to a life of constant and extreme pain simply because people on the street are dying. It's all well and good to try to do something about these deaths but putting one segment of our society over another is not the way to do it.
The whole thing has been handled badly by those who have jumped to conclusions and refuse to take the advice of the people who actually know what they're talking about.
JMHO
Yes most of the deaths are from illegal drugs but a large number of those are because the experts all of a suddenly decided to cut back on prescriptions to addictive drugs, leaving those with government sponsored addictions with little choice but to by blackmarket. The rest of course are deadbeats that are just looking for a better high.Army medics used to give out oxycondon like candy and then send the people back to work with heavy equipment. Along with what ever other drugs they were experimenting with for PTDSD.
 

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Yes most of the deaths are from illegal drugs but a large number of those are because the experts all of a suddenly decided to cut back on prescriptions to addictive drugs, leaving those with government sponsored addictions with little choice but to by blackmarket. The rest of course are deadbeats that are just looking for a better high.Army medics used to give out oxycondon like candy and then send the people back to work with heavy equipment. Along with what ever other drugs they were experimenting with for PTDSD.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Taxslave -are you REALLY TRYING to tell us that the recent spike in drug/opiod deaths are the result of LIE-berals cutting back on legal prescriptions????????????????????????????????


That is the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some years back I was in hospital with a serious spinal chord injury and I got a WHOLE LOT OF DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Started with Morphine and then they DOUBLED the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then they switched to some kind of Synthetic Morphine.....................and then they doubled the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then they switched me to Percocet........you know the stuff I mean- that infamous Hillbilly Heroin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And GUESS WHAT??????????????????????????????????


You can STOP TAKING THAT STUFF COLD TURKEY without any ill effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody who wants to claim they suffered medical problems from being cut off a LEGAL PRESCRIPTION IS A LIAR OF FANTASTIC PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS i said in my recent post about addicted natives- our LIE-beral overlords DO NOT GIVE A SH+T ABOUT NATIVE ADDICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!


And taxslave- your meally mouth whining about people hatmed by LEGAL prescriptions is BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I also pointed out that LIE-berals do not care to waste their GRAVY on cops who could seek out and cut off supplies of prescription drugs that are apparently being badly abused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am living proof that NO PATIENT taking LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Opiods will be harmed in any way by getting cut off cold turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I had 3/4 of a bottle of Percocet LEFT OVER and UN-NEEDED when the injury healed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I gave those pills back to the doctor for safe disposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug

I'm sure you saw this posted before. but are just ignoring it because you hate canadians and americans, and wish we were all dead so you can sneak in and take over.


'Record' fentanyl drug bust made at US-Mexico border

US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has announced their largest ever seizure of the synthetic opioid drug fentanyl.

Agents on Saturday found 254 lbs (114kg) of fentanyl, as well as 395 lbs of methamphetamine in a lorry at an official US-Mexico border crossing.

A "false floor" was found in the produce truck, said Michael Humphries, who commands the Nogales checkpoint on the Arizona-Mexico border.

The lorry's Mexican driver has been arrested and charged with drug dealing.

According to Mr Humphries, the cargo of fentanyl had an approximate black market value of $3.5m (£2.6m) and is considered so deadly that even a few salt-sized grains of it could kill a person.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control, fentanyl is the drug most involved in fatal overdoses around the country, accounting for around 18,000 deaths in 2016.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47066311

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says in a recent report that fentanyl is now the drug most often involved in fatal overdoses across the country, accounting for more than 18,000, or almost 29 percent, of the 63,000 overdose fatalities in 2016.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4911804/us-customs-fentanyl-bust-arizona/

The bust also included nearly 400 pounds of methamphetamine.
http://fortune.com/2019/01/31/fentanyl-mexico-border-bust-opioid-crisis/

Fentanyl bust 'enough to kill 26 million'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44244688

2,066 Canadians died of opioid overdoses in the first half of 2018
https://globalnews.ca/news/4754876/opioid-overdose-canada-deaths-2018/


That's why Hoid and his friends don't want a wall, not to mention the potential female, and child, rape victims...

 
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the issue is very much prescribed pills - and a coordinated campaign to misinform doctors as to the side effects of the drug


WHAT IN HELL are you blathering about this time HOID????????????????????????


Just WHO is putting up a "coordinated campaign to misinform doctors about the side effects of the drug"???????????????????????


Based on the stuff you sometimes blurt out I think cops ought to be following you around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am quite sure you would lead the cops to every major drug dealer in town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And why dont the cops put an end to this coordinated campaign that is causing so much trouble???????????????


Oh, right- LIE-berals are IGNORING CRIME because doing anything about it would cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And arresting drug dealers might lose them votes!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Just WHO is putting up a "coordinated campaign to misinform doctors about the side effects of the drug"???????????????????????


Pull up a chair and and whatever else you need to be comfortable 'for a spell'. If this was about Joe's Corner Coffee Shop and Brothel it would take just a few sentences, however, (you will learn to hate this word) the 'drugs come from the same fields that 'big pharma' also gets their product from. The split is 'Doctors' work for 'big pharma' and they take 90% of everything that is produced in the world, the 10% is given to the 'black market' where the lower quality still brings in almost as much only due to 'big pharma' having many more products available other than just heroin. Egypt was the starting location as far as Europe goes so if more is needed there are fields available.
For this post lets say a 'doctor' is anybody with a 'phd' and that is the dividing line as far as 'dealers' and 'addicts' are concerned. One side gets the best product and they make money selling the 'sludge' to others who are 'lesser people'. That would include all the black market customers as well as any that get drugs from big pharma. (where the profit sharing brings in more than the cost of the drugs)

Doctors would go back as far as ancient Egypt.
Heroin would go back as far as ancient Egypt.
Welcome to the birth of the Mossad.


And why dont the cops put an end to this coordinated campaign that is causing so much trouble???????????????


The ones at Joe's place would need to take them to the courts and they are in place to make sure the doctors get off yet the black market dealers come and go quickly, most often through a violent act. The Military are the police that protect the doctors on a global level. There are about 100 different ones that are at odds with each other to prevent them from 'talking' while they can be divided into two groups for a 'World War' against themselves.


Oh, right- LIE-berals are IGNORING CRIME because doing anything about it would cut into their gravy supply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(sharp intake of breath)


And arresting drug dealers might lose them votes!!!!!!!!!!!
You spelled 'your life' wrong.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Taxslave -are you REALLY TRYING to tell us that the recent spike in drug/opiod deaths are the result of LIE-berals cutting back on legal prescriptions????????????????????????????????


That is the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some years back I was in hospital with a serious spinal chord injury and I got a WHOLE LOT OF DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Started with Morphine and then they DOUBLED the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then they switched to some kind of Synthetic Morphine.....................and then they doubled the dose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then they switched me to Percocet........you know the stuff I mean- that infamous Hillbilly Heroin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And GUESS WHAT??????????????????????????????????
You can STOP TAKING THAT STUFF COLD TURKEY without any ill effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody who wants to claim they suffered medical problems from being cut off a LEGAL PRESCRIPTION IS A LIAR OF FANTASTIC PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS i said in my recent post about addicted natives- our LIE-beral overlords DO NOT GIVE A SH+T ABOUT NATIVE ADDICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
And taxslave- your meally mouth whining about people hatmed by LEGAL prescriptions is BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also pointed out that LIE-berals do not care to waste their GRAVY on cops who could seek out and cut off supplies of prescription drugs that are apparently being badly abused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am living proof that NO PATIENT taking LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Opiods will be harmed in any way by getting cut off cold turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had 3/4 of a bottle of Percocet LEFT OVER and UN-NEEDED when the injury healed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I gave those pills back to the doctor for safe disposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you got a lot to learn about drugs sunshine.
 

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I'm sure you saw this posted before. but are just ignoring it because you hate canadians and americans, and wish we were all dead so you can sneak in and take over.
'Record' fentanyl drug bust made at US-Mexico border
US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has announced their largest ever seizure of the synthetic opioid drug fentanyl.
Agents on Saturday found 254 lbs (114kg) of fentanyl, as well as 395 lbs of methamphetamine in a lorry at an official US-Mexico border crossing.
A "false floor" was found in the produce truck, said Michael Humphries, who commands the Nogales checkpoint on the Arizona-Mexico border.
The lorry's Mexican driver has been arrested and charged with drug dealing.
According to Mr Humphries, the cargo of fentanyl had an approximate black market value of $3.5m (£2.6m) and is considered so deadly that even a few salt-sized grains of it could kill a person.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control, fentanyl is the drug most involved in fatal overdoses around the country, accounting for around 18,000 deaths in 2016.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47066311
The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says in a recent report that fentanyl is now the drug most often involved in fatal overdoses across the country, accounting for more than 18,000, or almost 29 percent, of the 63,000 overdose fatalities in 2016.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4911804/us-customs-fentanyl-bust-arizona/
The bust also included nearly 400 pounds of methamphetamine.
http://fortune.com/2019/01/31/fentanyl-mexico-border-bust-opioid-crisis/
Fentanyl bust 'enough to kill 26 million'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44244688
2,066 Canadians died of opioid overdoses in the first half of 2018
https://globalnews.ca/news/4754876/opioid-overdose-canada-deaths-2018/
That's why Hoid and his friends don't want a wall, not to mention the potential female, and child, rape victims...
If that counted the walking dead on street opiods and meth as well, B'y Jesus that'd be a wake up call.
 

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That would be "in addition to" I think

I lost my step brother ( a nuclear engineer) to a legal fentanyl addiction due to his survival of a brutal car accident with a broken spin.
The doctors were more worried about addicting him to the fentanyl and THEIR LICENSES than they were about the pain he was in.

So when the pain out ran the limit of his prescriptions, he hung him self.

RIP JER.
Miss you.
 

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Grief is not a good place to go but you have to have loved somebody before you can grieve over their death. That separation will either be repaired in the future or the time you did get to spend together was all you get and when grief is involved there were more good times than bad.
While grief is not something to avoid it should not take up more of a person's 'remaining time' (grief over being left behind is a different animal) that what is 'healthy'. A few people in that state might be able to lessen their grief is they consider that they are handling it better than if the deceased person was the survivor. Getting rid of the sobs in not a goal, letting other emotions come and go as surroundings dictate is as much of a 'recovery' as there has to be.


This post is going to move into some areas that your background will 'be helpful'. The history of the person 'I miss' is: she was born in 1916, caught the 1918 flu and had a high fever for 7 days and then 'recovered' except for 'certain changes'. 1970 her new Doctor recognized some symptoms that was specific to her type of history and 'atavin' was the 'cure' and for the occasional hysterics they were gone until her doc died and the new one wanted her on something else as her meds 'were addictive'. After 30 years of working perfectly the 'generic' did not work and other meds were given that had some horrible side effects. Things stayed that way until she died of old age a decade later.

Apparently there are not supposed to be any 'success stories' for the addictive variety unless you are part of the 'elite' then you can get heroin for a self induced hang-nail. To be clearer on why heroin is the drug of choice think of a race to get a phd within a certain amount of time and if you miss that date you do not get a job in that field. The set the bar at a level that you have to be taking in heroin the whole 4 years. Most of your $400/hr goes to pay for those same meds. Think of it as 'becoming a better chess player without having a natural ability'. In your case the pain was eased but he probably also was thinking a bit too clearly to be a 'sheeple'. In my case both parents were war veterans so the Government could do no wrong.
I suspect the people in pain are the ones targeted for 'treatment for their addiction' due to 'low IQ' and when the meds are taken away they are expected to live like nothing has changed or take their own life. The meds will get you addicted yet there are no meds available to anybody who walks in and can prove life does not match the 'quality standards written down' so they can get the meds to end it without the need to construct your own death machine.
The current trend is to allow 'doctors' to decide if somebody 2 and under is going to have a quality life or not. Might as well kill them early rather than later is a decision made by others. I wonder what the arguments look like from both sides weighing in on the subject or were 'the doctors' the only ones in the room when the vote was taken??
I'm also quite serious about people facing a life of misery get to act as their own doctors as far as life being a 'blessing' or a 'curse'. Going from a healthy body to a broken one that hurts you should be one of the cases where the patient is also 'the expert on the matter'.
There would be more bodies and methods of death might be 'a brothel for the dying' and then 'in the morning the cremations take place. The scary part is the current elite do not all score high on an IQ test that covers 'natural abilities' rather than what somebody with a phd has taken (as taught rather than it is fact or fiction).

They are protecting themselves rather than saving mankind from themselves, sorry, 'ourselves'.
I wonder if 'manna' in the corrupt version of the OT was heroin.