trudeau doesnt give a **** about indigeneous peoples rights

petros

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In order for there to be Crown Land, it would have had to be ceded by treaty or purchased by the Crown. Most of the province is unceded and therefor not Crown Land.
"The Royal Proclamation of 1763 was issued by King George III on October 7, 1763."
If you carry a Status Card, you've ceded.

If you're white and had a friend get you cheap gas and smokes, you've only doubled down on that person giving in to whitie.
 

spilledthebeer

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If you carry a Status Card, you've ceded.

If you're white and had a friend get you cheap gas and smokes, you've only doubled down on that person giving in to whitie.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well Said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And dont forget to mention buying TAX FREE cigarettes from native "smoke shacks"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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It is a native fiction that they insist that "native oral history", that is routinely altered to suit native propagandists, should take precedence over written history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What natives own at this time are the reserves they live on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The rest belongs to others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it is LIE-beral fiction, for the purpose of buying native votes, that encourages natives to believe they are going to get something worth while from LIE-berals in exchange for those votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Canadian leaders had treaty 8 signed ceding the land to the crown a recent court ruling said it wasn't comprehensive enough in the BC supreme court and before the Fed. Supreme court heard the case the BC Gov. said they would reopen the treaty process. Native Oral history opinion does not change the facts that is why they are negotiating new treaties to replace the old one.
 

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No healing for family of Cree man shot on farm

REGINA - Debbie Baptiste says she was hopeful when she went into the trial of the man accused of killing her son.
Hopeful that she would find justice for Colten Boushie, a 22-year-old Cree man who was shot and killed on a farm near Biggar, Sask., in August 2016.
But after two weeks in court and 13 hours of jury deliberation, she left angry.
Farmer Gerald Stanley, who admitted he fired the gun on the day her son died, was found not guilty of second-degree murder. He walked away a free man.
"I just have to keep living a nightmare over and over again," Baptiste said in an interview this week.
"It doesn't get better. Time did not heal."
Saturday marks the one-year anniversary of the controversial, high-profile verdict in the Stanley trial. A pipe ceremony and candlelight vigil are planned in North Battleford, Sask., and Boushie's family members are expected to share their thoughts about the last year.
Stanley took the stand at his trial and testified that his gun had gone off accidentally. He said he was firing to scare off some young people he thought were stealing from him after they drove onto his property.
Boushie was sitting in the driver’s seat of a Ford Escape when he was shot in the back of the head.
Public reaction to the acquittal was immediate and intense.
While some rural property owners, fed up with high crime rates, saw justice in the verdict, social media also lit up with rage and grief.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tweeted that he empathized with the pain felt by Boushie's family. Jody Wilson-Raybould, federal justice minister at the time, pledged that Canada "can and must do better."
The next day, rallies were held from coast to coast. A protest camp quietly set up on the lawn of the Saskatchewan legislature and stayed there for more than six months.
Within two months of the verdict, the federal government brought forward legislation that proposes to abolish peremptory challenges, which allow lawyers to reject potential jurors without having to provide a reason.
Such challenges were criticized during the Stanley trial for allowing the defence to exclude visibly Indigenous people during jury selection.
"If they go through, these are probably the most fundamental changes to the jury system that I've seen in 30 years of teaching criminal justice," said Kent Roach, a law professor at the University of Toronto.
"Just like the case was extremely polarizing for the public, it's also been very polarizing for the legal community."
Roach, who recently published a book about the Stanley case and its racial and historical context, said the trial received worldwide media attention because of the push by Boushie's family for change.
"They've had to grieve in public," said family lawyer Eleanore Sunchild.
Roach believes there ought to have been a coroner's inquest into Boushie's death. It could have examined what happened against the backdrop of racism, rural crime, policing and treaties, he said.
"What I fear is that we will continue to have polarized opinions about this case and that, with the exception of these controversial Criminal Code amendments, it may actually fade into history as just ... another example of where Canadian justice has failed Indigenous people."
One year after the acquittal, Baptiste has lost hope she will ever have justice for her son, but is still looking for "change in the justice system — that we have equal rights in that courtroom."
She wants a public inquiry.
The provincial government, saying the trial laid bare the facts of the case, has rejected that.
Saskatchewan Justice Minister Don Morgan who, along with Premier Scott Moe, met with Boushie's family after the verdict, said the province wants to expand restorative justice and culturally sensitive programs.
"We should never forget the tragic death of Colten Boushie and how it changed the lives of two Saskatchewan families forever," Morgan said in a statement.
Alvin Baptiste, Colten's uncle, wants a law firm established that would be devoted to helping Indigenous people through the justice system. He also wants a museum in North Battleford to teach people about First Nations history in the region.
Beside seeing more Indigenous peoples on juries, Debbie Baptiste wants more Aboriginal judges and Crown prosecutors. Of the 88 judges currently serving in Saskatchewan, four have self-declared as Indigenous.
But no matter what changes may come, Baptiste knows she faces one unending reality.
"I still miss my son," she said.
"That will never change."

Pandering politics is not good for anybody in Canada just creates more division and hate
 

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The agreement was signed by elected chiefs who have no authority off the rez. When the pipeline leaks, and it will, then it will impact their land.
Bullshit. It is the elected chiefs that have legal authority. The hereditory chiefs are nothing but useless fluff and feathers. Do look up the term elected.
 

spilledthebeer

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Bullshit. It is the elected chiefs that have legal authority. The hereditory chiefs are nothing but useless fluff and feathers. Do look up the term elected.


THE REAL PROBLEM HERE with natives is panic stricken LIE-berals frantically trying to BUY native votes in a desperate bid to cling to power at ANY PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And why are we not discussing the latest LIE-beral scandal involving SNC Lavelin- the Quebec based company caught up in bribery and corruption charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy gave a VERY CAREFULLY SCRIPTED REPLY to the question of govt intererfence in the case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy stated he "did not direct the Justice Minister regarding the Lavelin case"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So as I understand it he DENIES ISSUING ORDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


However - when he was asked if he "put any sort of pressure on the Justice Minster regarding the Lavelin case- he CLAMMED UP!!!!!!!


And when asked if Justice Minster Wilson was FIRED from her job last month because of her handling of the Lavelin case- meaning putting the case to trial instead of accepting a plea bargain that would have minimized publicity - Our idiot Boy found NO ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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If that is the case do try and explain why we have to get leases from the government if they don't own the land.


Oh..........I see that taxslave is not familiar with legal terminology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Govt will LEASE a thing it only wants to own or use for a little while.............like a car or a condo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Govt will EXPROPRIATE - meaning buy and pay for land that it wishes to use FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To expropriate a thing means having it change ownership!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As will be happening with the land the pipeline will eventually be built on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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'It's' trying but 'it' keeps spilling them.'
Memo received and updates applied and ready for inspection.
'It' has a large family, Right?
 

MHz

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If that is the case do try and explain why we have to get leases from the government if they don't own the land.
Perhaps this might come into play for 'public land' that borders an Indian village and where 'private land' also borders an Indian village.
'Private land' was farmland at some point so a homestead was established and the owner of the 1/4section (160 acres) also got the mineral rights so it turned out to be a gravel quarry the 'farmer' became very rich by selling the product an keeping all the money. On public land the material would be sold at the 'xxx/meter' level that would be about 1/10 of the value after it was refined and sold on the open market.
If a utility company wants to come across a 'homestead' it does just that. The 'farmer might have some say about the 10 acres his house sits on but the other 150 acres is open territory for 'as much' or 'as little' of the property is taken. When the property sold the mineral rights were stolen by the crown so they would get a share of something they had little rights to.
'Public lands' next to a 'Reserve' were used as a resource for food, same as a farmer grows a crop for, feed yourself and sell the rest. You cannot eat oil and diamonds (NWT) in the long term will be worth $100'sT/100 years to somebody with mineral rights.

$27T in profit @ 10% = 2.7B rather than the $500M the Govt and Indians collected.
At the time the borders were being draw the Indians got the land that has the least value and any that had value was privately owned long before mineral wealth became an issue. If Indian can claim mineral wealth is 'feeding them' then would win and could drive a BMW to the 'Rez Store" to pick up his new 'wall sized big screen like you on the TV.'
The other option is even less money will make it into the public coffers but the mining companies will be swimming in diamonds. The Provinces have less money to play with but the court cases will have a big impact on what goes on up north.The fewer people the better and bears only would be the best case rather than the worst.
 

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A new twist

B.C. gas pipeline on hold as company investigates Indigenous artifacts claim

In a written statement, the company said Friday it has voluntarily suspended work at the site while it investigates the claims.
Spice said two Unist'ot'en supporters had been searching the upturned ground of the future work camp in the evenings, after crews had left, when they found two stone tools.
The Unist'ot'en say the company didn't conduct an adequate archeological impact assessment during the permitting process.
Coastal Gaslink says it did complete an archeological impact assessment as part of the permitting process, and the B.C. Oil and gas Commission confirmed that it met provincial requirements for its permit.
However, the company also says a road blockade prevented it from conducting onsite field work.

Were they a plant to stop the pipeline?
 

spilledthebeer

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A new twist

B.C. gas pipeline on hold as company investigates Indigenous artifacts claim



Were they a plant to stop the pipeline?


It is an OLD DODGE and quite easy to do so YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is EXCELLENT REASON to think things were planted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is excellent reason to think that the archeological "value" of the planted items will be BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the plus side- we are getting near to spring and thus archeologists can very soon start work- and DEBUNK the "finds" well before the October election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we all know........Our idiot Boy has NO PLANS to ever build pipelines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So our new govt will be able to get on with the work - FREE of fake archeological claims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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‘Thank you for your donation’: Trudeau to protester over First Nation mercury poisoning at fundraiser

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was confronted by protesters who hoped to draw his attention to mercury contamination in the First Nation communities of Grassy Narrows and Wabaseemoong during a Liberal fundraiser in Toronto on Wednesday night.
The prime minister's response?
"Thank you for your donation."
That was according to a video posted to Twitter that showed Trudeau delivering a speech during the Laurier Club event at the luxury Omni King Edward Hotel.
Laurier Club members are considered high-end Liberal donors who must contribute a minimum of $1,500 in order to join the ranks.
"Mr. Trudeau, people at Grassy Narrows are suffering from mercury poisoning. You committed to addressing this crisis," a protester could be heard saying as she held up a banner calling on the prime minister to compensate people within the community.
The protester was subsequently ushered away. That's when Trudeau addressed her directly.
"Thank you for being here, thank you for your donation tonight. I really appreciate it," he said, to laughs, applause and cheers from the audience.
The prime minister then continued: "As you know, the Liberal Party is filled with different perspectives and different opinions, and we respect them all."
Another protester, still in the audience, then said off-camera: "If it was your family that's been waiting for 500 days, if your family was suffering from mercury poisoning, what would you do? If it was your family, would you accept it? Would you accept 500 days for one per cent?"
READ MORE: ANALYSIS — Biggest peril for Team Trudeau is that Liberals are at war with each other
A Facebook event promoting the protest alleged that Trudeau is "failing to help Grassy Narrows, a key test of his 'commitment' to meaningful relationships with First Nations and to a healthy environment."
The event post said that in November 2017, then-minister of Indigenous services Jane Philpott had "promised to build and operate a Mercury Survivors Home and Care Center in Grassy Narrows."
However, 500 days have passed since that commitment, and "only one per cent of the cost to build the facility has flowed and the project has stalled."
The event post went on to say that all but six per cent of Grassy Narrows people have received "no compensation for the intense impacts of the ongoing mercury crisis on their health, culture and livelihood.
"Instead of getting the support they need, they face chronic denial as they live with deep poverty and severe food insecurity."
Philpott, who has since left the Liberal cabinet, indeed pledged federal funding to the Grassy Narrows First Nation to fund a treatment centre to help people suffering the effects of mercury contamination.
READ MORE: Grassy Narrows First Nation gets federal funding for mercury treatment centre
Mercury contamination has been an issue in the area for half a century, after a paper mill located in Dryden, Ont., dumped thousands of kilograms of mercury into the English-Wabigoon river system in the 1960s.
"This is what they need and should have, and we are very happy to support them in it," Philpott said at the time.
A health survey published by the Grassy Narrows First Nation last year showed that the health of people there was "significantly worse" than other First Nations in Canada.
The community had fewer elders, and this survey suggested that people there were dying prematurely.
The Supreme Court of Canada has said it will hear a case over whether Ontario's provincial government can force Weyerhaeuser Co. and Resolute Forest Products to clean the former mill site in Dryden.
The provincial government had ordered them to clean the site in 2011, but they claimed they had received indemnity.
READ MORE: Ontario government to increase mercury disability payments to affected First Nations
An Ontario Superior Court judge found in the companies' favour in 2016, but the Ontario Court of Appeal overturned that ruling.
The government has also been handing out mercury disability payments to over 200 people in the Grassy Narrows and Wabaseemoong communities.
Global News has reached out to the Prime Minister's Office for comment on Trudeau's remarks.
 

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He apologized and said he tries to be respectful and listen all people and their concerns . Except when he doesn’t. But all joking aside , why is he flying around the country daily on our tax dollar having campaign style town halls ?
Excuse me , even worse he is flying around the country on our tax dollar to attend $1500.00 a plate Liberal fundraisers . Obviously well attended by local business leaders and crony capitalists hoping to get a step up .