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Those activist-clowns that elected to slander/libel the accused will likely be dragged into an expensive lawsuit.


No doubt, they will be learning an extremely expensive lesson


"B.C. Supreme Court judge Mary Ellen Boyd wrote that report, and said she could substantiate none of the allegations...."


Not a single one, Cap and yet the man is still being viciously slandered and attacked by these scurrilous bitches who deserve to be bankrupted and charged to the full extent of the law. If this can happen to someone like Professor Galloway it can happen to anyone.
 

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Those activist-clowns that elected to slander/libel the accused will likely be dragged into an expensive lawsuit.


No doubt, they will be learning an extremely expensive lesson
One can only hope so . Hoid should worry .
 

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"B.C. Supreme Court judge Mary Ellen Boyd wrote that report, and said she could substantiate none of the allegations...."


Not a single one, Cap and yet the man is still being viciously slandered and attacked by these scurrilous bitches who deserve to be bankrupted and charged to the full extent of the law. If this can happen to someone like Professor Galloway it can happen to anyone.
It happened to Kavanaugh and Hoid still calls him a racist.
 

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all sorts of lying going on.




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So why not STOP your lying on behalf of LIE-berals and civil service union Hogs??????????????????


Oh right- LIE-berals and Hogs are entitled to lie- even to each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just look at the current postal mess!



Yes, pity the poor Cdn postal workers-slowly being dumped onto the ash heap of history. Their great days are long gone. It seems like only yesterday that postal union head Darryl Bean was on the radio crowing about the latest contract with govt in which Cdn posties became officially the best compensated civil servants on the planet!

And just LOOK how grateful posties are for decades of LIE-beral ass kissing!!!!!!

LIE-berals MAKE WORK for postie Hogs- delivering newly legalized Weed and posties IMMEDIATELY go on strike and screw things up!!!! People waiting WEEKS for the Weed they ordered online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And even worse- in order to make sure that careless and disgruntled posties do not fold, spindle or mutilate the Weed packages- the product is now wrapped in huge quantities of material- a great new FLOOD of garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But the posties are people from yesterday. Greed and technology has doomed them. Govt and the public grew frustrated with postie greed and allowed courier companies in to compete. Technology vastly increased the damage-fax machines and e-mail sealed the fate of the followers of Bean. Then the death blow-frustrated and dead broke govt decided that posties were disposable and delivery to our doors ENDED-never to return-not even under Trudope!

The defined benefit pension plans so beloved of grossly entitled civil service Hogs can only function and survive in the long term if there are more workers PAYING INTO the plan than there are retired workers claiming out. Sadly-posties have it backwards-with a few still contributing and many drawing out-with posties desperately hoping they can persuade LIE-berals to honour the many IOU`s they have issued over the years. And good luck with that-teachers and Hydro workers are far more numerous than posties and LIE-berals have made their choices of who can stay and who can be dumped-there is simply NOT enough gravy for all and some Hogs MUST be disappointed!.

And now the smelly stuff has hit the fan. The postie union is in parlous state and LIE-beral promises cannot make up the shortfall-not to posties and NOT to the other unions either! LIE-berals have issued so many promises offering payment in the future for civil service union support now that we simply cannot pay! Federal LIE-berals owe something over THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS in deferred pension promises to the 19 separate federal unions. Its money that they simply cannot provide as we don’t have the money to give them!

The posties are a test case. If they are defeated and don’t get their gravy as promised by LIE-berals then a precedent will have been set and the other unions will be in serious trouble-if one Hog group can be short changed then so can the others. Govt and unions are being VERY COY about just how much gravy is REALLY being demanded. Its been about 10 years since federal govt admitted their unions wanted that 300 billion in LIE-beral promises honoured.

The province of Ontari-owe-which also must deal with 19 unions has been utterly silent about how much gravy is owed. What we do know is that OSSTF-the Ontari-owe high school teachers will be demanding total pension payments of about FIFTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS by about 2018-this information is courtesy of the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF pension management committee.
And we know that OSSTF is simply the largest Ontari-owe pension-the other 18 unions are also clamouring for hundreds of billions in promised pension top ups.

Even worse, there are 19 unions operating at the municipal level and we don’t know what they are demanding behind closed doors-as if it was none of our business what OUR govt does with OUR money! If the Hogs don’t get what they want then the days of LIE-beral govt may be numbered! And then there is that fourth level of govt that everybody forgets-the crown corporations-those allegedly independent `arms length`-separate from govt- political creations that are just as deep in our pockets as the other Hogs. The crown corps are a special class of Hogs such as ORNGE, E-Health, OPG, the hospitals and universities. They also hold many LIE-beral IOU`s which can never be paid. And we owe Kevin O`Leary a debt for reminding us of the outrageous payments made for the aborted Ontari-owe LIE-beral pension plan!

The final kick came courtesy of former Ontari-owe premier Dalton McGinty who assured Cdn auto workers that if GM or Chrysler went bankrupt, then WE would make up the difference in their pension pay outs as well! As it stands now, GM certainly seems to be abandoning Canada-the GM heart of Oshawa is no longer beating-Oshawa no longer `motor-vates` the country.

And now that LIE-berals have driven Ontari-owe into bankruptcy and seriously wounded the national economy with that mad thirty billion dollar deficit, LIE-berals are now looking for `dead wood`. Yes- looking for liabilities they can dump for cost savings-and posties are the first candidates for disposal! They will NOT be the last!

Foolish civil service Hogs elected LIE-berals to positions of power based on their promises and now posties are the first to truly understand the value of LIE-beral promises! Our prime minister Justin Trudope-that Boy with nice hair-for Brains was elected on a sworn promise to `save the middle class`. The value of LIE-beral promises is now laid bare. Conservatives under Harper only froze Hog wages and pensions. Our brainless Boy has kept the freeze and is laying on a pack of new costs and charges and major new deficits that will actually REDUCE the money available to Hogs.

The so called Harper `war on science` was nothing more than a requirement that scientists not shit on their govt employers by spreading malicious political propaganda. It is Our brainless Boy who is laying off job lots of scientists. One must assume he does not want frustrated scientists pointing out that the Grand LIE-beral carbon crap and trade schemes are a total failure-the federal plan is no better than any of the provincial plans-they ONLY clean out our wallets and leave the pollution in place!

Posties happily believed all the LIE-berals promises of more gravy and a bright new future and now they are finding out Why we call them LIE-berals!

And the latest news: posties have a `tentative` contract-which means they have NO contract as this `tentative` thing will be rejected just like the contracts for teachers and support staff were rejected! There will be a new round of municipal and provincial elections in 2 short years-with LIE-berals frantic to BUY Hog support to stave off a wave of anger from ordinary people-look for Hogs and LIE-berals to be thick as thieves in a series of nasty back room deals as Hogs and LIE-berals try to thrash out their differences-with LIE-berals KNOWING they cannot honour their Hog IOU`s without destroying their party and our economy! As for posties-they are economically DEAD!

And....for those who care-I DO LIKE chocolate-but I have NEVER solicited a Snickers bar from anybody on this site. Nor have I ever commented on prayers posted on this site. I blame Mikey Switzer for the `Snickers` bit- Mikey met a LIE-beral fund raiser who told him: “Mikey, the party needs your support-give till it hurts and whatever you give now will be repaid TEN FOLD later-so Mikey signed over his welfare cheque and has only now found out that he WONT be repaid in this lifetime. So his welfare cheque is gone and he is hungry-is a one lousy Snickers bar for Mikey really to much for LIE-berals to throw him?

As for putting my stuff in newspapers-WHY would I do that? I GET my information from Cdn media whores-most of whom are loonie-leftist LIE-beral loving socialists! I post here to compensate for the media whores who love to `bury the lead` and slant the news-and to let them know we are not fooled.

For instance-media whores have recently whined about the amount of pension money that will be collected by former prime minister Stephen Harper during his retirement. Yet media whores make NO mention of the amount of money ALREADY COLLECTED by former LIE-beral prime minister Jean Chretien! And it was Chretien who raised the pay of prime minister dramatically during his time in office! It was Chretien that whined that he was worth as much as an NHL hockey player-yeah, Chretien-the LIE-beral prime minister who stood and watched as his party STOLE THREE BILLION DOLLARS from tax payers during the Adscam scandal thinks he is worth WAY MORE than he is getting! This is called `burying the lead` in newsperson slang. Rigging the story to try to make Conservatives look bad when it is LIE-berals and their Hog allies that are shitting on us!

And what exactly is it that LIE-beral loving media whores most want to bury? Recently prime minister Justin Trudope spoke yet again regarding the need of his wife Sophie for MORE servants. The poor woman simply cannot make do with a couple of nannies, a personal chef and a floating array of cleaning staff, landscape workers and repair persons supplied as necessary by govt. Queen Sophie is simply ENTITLED! One almost feels sorry for Our brainless Boy prime minister-he endures civil service Hogs at the office and his Hog wife at home-all with LONG lists of entitlements-which equals no peace for the stupid Boy!

Add in a jaded public that wonders why Our brainless Boy cannot simply HIRE more personal servants for Queen Sophie out of his quarter million dollars per year prime ministerial salary PLUS his multi million dollar trust fund! All other prime ministers managed well enough with the existing staff-but then they were not entitled like Sophie! No wonder LIE-berals and media whores want to change the channel!
 

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’Baby, It’s Cold Outside’ pulled from some radio stations following #MeToo complaints
Canadian Press
Published:
December 4, 2018
Updated:
December 4, 2018 5:39 PM EST
In this handout photo provided by Disney Parks, Lea Michele and Joey McIntyre of NKOTB perform "Baby, It's Cold Outside" during a taping of "The Wonderful World of Disney: Magical Holiday Celebration" at Sleeping Beauty's Castle at Walt Disneyland on Nov. 14, 2017 in Anaheim, Calif. (Matt Petit/Disney Parks via Getty Images)
TORONTO — “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” is getting a chilly response from Canadian radio stations.
CBC Radio says it will join at least two other broadcasters in the country, Rogers Media and Bell Media, who have pulled the controversial Christmas favourite out of their rotations this year.
That comes as the duet, written back in 1944, faces renewed scrutiny over what some say are inappropriate lyrics which have been amplified in the wake of the #MeToo movement.
CBC spokeswoman Nicola Makoway says the broadcaster plans to remove the song at midnight on Tuesday with “no plans to play it going forward.”
Earlier this week, Cleveland radio station WDOK-FM announced it was no longer playing the song in response to listener feedback. Some took issue over lyrics where one singer is trying to persuade the other to stay inside, with exchanges that include, “What’s in this drink?” and “Baby, don’t hold out.”
Bell Media spokesman Scott Henderson says the company, which runs two 24-hour Christmas stations in Vancouver and Ottawa, chose not to include the Christmas tune on its playlists this year.
“The song wasn’t scheduled for airplay on any Bell Media Radio stations and there are no plans to play it in the future,” he wrote in an emailed statement.
Rogers Media also runs a number of all-Christmas music stations, including 98.1 CHFI-FM in Toronto and 98.5 CIOC-FM in Victoria. Spokeswoman Caitlin Decarie says the broadcaster also removed the song this year, but declined to outline how it reached the decision.
“There are so many wonderful songs that celebrate the holiday season,” she said.
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A representative for CBC Radio was unable to answer whether its stations include the Christmas song in its current rotation.
“Baby, It’s Cold Outside” has been considered a holiday classic ever since it won the Academy Award for best original song in the film “Neptune’s Daughter.”
It’s since been covered countless times by singers including Ray Charles and Betty Carter, Idina Menzel and Michael Buble, as well as Dolly Parton and Rod Stewart.
Concern over the song has existed for years, leading to many reinterpretations of the lyrics.
Lady Gaga and Joseph Gordon-Levitt flipped the gender roles in a performance for the pop singer’s 2013 holiday special with the Muppets.
And two years ago, Minnesota couple Lydia Liza and Josiah Lemanski rewrote the lyrics to include lines about consent, such as a response to the woman’s line “I ought to say no, no, no” with the man saying: “You reserve the right to say no.”
http://torontosun.com/entertainment...ome-radio-stations-following-metoo-complaints
 

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New accuser claims Les Moonves forced her to perform oral sex: 'Be my girlfriend and I’ll put you on any show'
Brad Hunter, Postmedia Network
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November 29, 2018
Updated:
November 29, 2018 2:38 PM EST
In this Sept. 19, 2017 file photo, Les Moonves, chairman and CEO of CBS Corporation, poses at the premiere of the new television series "Star Trek: Discovery" in Los Angeles.Chris Pizzello / Invision / AP / Files
Former CBS poohbah Les Moonves has been hammered with new lurid allegations he forced an actress who lives in Toronto to perform oral sex on him.
The disgraced CEO’s latest woes come courtesy of Bobbie Phillips — who had small roles on Showgirls and Married With Children — and she told The New York Times about her alleged encounter with the TV titan.
Moonves has denied previous allegations.
She told the newspaper the incident occurred in 1995 when she was 25 and he was president of Warner Bros. Television.
Phillips believed Moonves might be able to help her career.
Bobbie Phillips claims Les Moonves forced her to perform oral sex. INSTAGRAM
“Be my girlfriend and I’ll put you on any show,” Phillips recalled the TV titan saying.
According to the actress, Moonves then grabbed her by the neck, pushed her to her knees and forced his penis into her mouth.
“Look how hard you make me,” Moonves allegedly said.
A telephone call interrupted Moonves and Phillips fled. On his desk was a baseball bat.
“All I could think,” she said, “was that I wanted to use the baseball bat to knock his head off.”
Phillips splits her time between Toronto and Costa Rica. INSTAGRAM
According to the Times, Moonves appeared to know he’d gone too far, telling one Hollywood pal: “If Bobbie talks, I’m finished.”
Moonves was ultimately pushed out by CBS’ board in September after 12 women told The New Yorker he had sexually harassed or assaulted them.
Phillips now marks the thirteenth accuser to come forward against Moonves.
Her lawyer says she wants $15 million in damages and is weighing her legal options after negotiations with Moonves’ lawyers collapsed.
So far, Big Brother host Julie Chen has stood by husband Les Moonves. CBS/GLOBAL
The former actress now splits her time between Toronto and Costa Rica where she and her husband, Anthony Filipetto, own Hotel Casa Chameleon. The hotel has been named one of the best in the world.
Meanwhile, it appears Moonves wife, Big Brother host Julie Chen, is standing by him as the sickening allegations mount.
As Radar reported this weekend, the couple were spotted enjoying a date night at ritzy restaurant Madeo.
http://torontosun.com/entertainment...-be-my-girlfriend-and-ill-put-you-on-any-show
 

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Les Moonves allegedly had employee 'on call' for oral sex: Report
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December 5, 2018
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December 5, 2018 11:41 AM EST
A report by CBS lawyers outlines more allegations of sexual misconduct by longtime chief Les Moonves, The New York Times reported.
The report alleges that Moonves destroyed evidence and misled investigators as he attempted to protect his reputation and severance payments. It says investigators had received “multiple reports” about a network employee who was “on call” to perform oral sex on Moonves.
“A number of employees were aware of this and believed that the woman was protected from discipline or termination as a result of it,” it cited the report as saying. “Moonves admitted to receiving oral sex from the woman, his subordinate, in his office, but described it as consensual.”
It said, the woman did not respond to the investigators’ requests for an interview.
New accuser claims Les Moonves forced her to perform oral sex
Actress describes alleged assault
CBS subpoenaed by Manhattan district attorney for info on Moonves
‘Big Brother’ shocker: Julie Chen subtly backs Moonves
Julie Chen leaves ’The Talk’ in taped message
The report was prepared by lawyers the network hired to determine if Moonves violated the terms of his employment agreement, the newspaper reported Tuesday.
CBS declined to comment Wednesday and lawyers for Moonves did not immediately respond.
The 59-page report is to be presented to CBS’s board of directors before the company’s annual meeting next week, it said.
It says Moonves could be denied his $120 million severance package after he had to quit in September amid numerous allegations of sexual misbehaviour.
As part of his contract with CBS he was required to fully co-operate with the network’s investigation.
Moonves stepped down following a story by The New Yorker that included a second round of ugly sexual misconduct accusations against the powerful television executive. He is one of many important figures in entertainment to be felled by sexual misconduct allegations.
http://nytimes.com/2018/12/04/business/media/les-moonves-cbs-report.html
http://torontosun.com/entertainment...estroyed-evidence-misled-investigators-report
 

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ASK AMY: Helpful man poses a #MeToo riddle
Amy Dickinson, Special to Postmedia Network
Published:
December 7, 2018
Updated:
December 7, 2018 7:00 AM EST
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Dear Amy: I like to think that I am a caring and sensitive man — one who respects women and appreciates the spirit of the #MeToo movement.
Therefore, a recent experience has me disturbed. I am looking for some objective feedback.
One recent evening, I was with a woman that I know well. We had drinks before, during and after dinner.
It became apparent to me that she was quite intoxicated and probably should head to bed to sleep it off. I helped her up the stairs to the bathroom. After a few minutes, when I heard the bathroom door open, I came back upstairs to check on her. This is when things got “tricky.”
She was naked, and she made strong sexual advances toward me.
I knew that the “right” thing to do was to help her get dressed and into bed for sleep, and then go on about my own business. But I was weak, partly due to my strong attraction to her. We engaged in sexual activity, and during the acts I believed there was a possibility that the next day she would not remember (or at least she might not remember how things got started). Yet I continued, and for this I am feeling remorseful.
Have I committed “date rape”? Am I a “predator”?
If the situation came to a courtroom, or if I were a public figure, would people judge me to be a “bad” man?
And finally, Amy, does it matter that this woman is my wife of 25 years?
— Wondering Husband
Dear Husband: I hope this didn’t really happen; I’m assuming instead that your question might be a disingenuous and rude little riddle, designed to trip up an unsuspecting reader.
However, let’s press on.
You ask for an objective opinion. Here’s mine:
Let’s establish at the outset that no, you are not a caring and sensitive man. No, you do not respect the #MeToo movement. That much is quite obvious.
Taking the scenario you describe at face value — yes, you sexually assaulted your wife. She was drunk; you were sober. She wasn’t able to consent to sex — not that you asked her.
No, you did not commit “date rape.” You did, however, commit “marital rape.” You pursued an incapacitated woman for the purpose of having sex with her. Yes, this makes you a predator.
Importantly, and unfortunately — your wife is married to a man who thinks this is a clever and legitimate question worthy of some sort of debate. I genuinely feel sorry for her. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Turn in your good husband card. You are a cad.
 

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ASK AMY: Helpful man poses a #MeToo riddle
Amy Dickinson, Special to Postmedia Network
Published:
December 7, 2018
Updated:
December 7, 2018 7:00 AM EST
(Getty Images)
Dear Amy: I like to think that I am a caring and sensitive man — one who respects women and appreciates the spirit of the #MeToo movement.
Therefore, a recent experience has me disturbed. I am looking for some objective feedback.
One recent evening, I was with a woman that I know well. We had drinks before, during and after dinner.
It became apparent to me that she was quite intoxicated and probably should head to bed to sleep it off. I helped her up the stairs to the bathroom. After a few minutes, when I heard the bathroom door open, I came back upstairs to check on her. This is when things got “tricky.”
She was naked, and she made strong sexual advances toward me.
I knew that the “right” thing to do was to help her get dressed and into bed for sleep, and then go on about my own business. But I was weak, partly due to my strong attraction to her. We engaged in sexual activity, and during the acts I believed there was a possibility that the next day she would not remember (or at least she might not remember how things got started). Yet I continued, and for this I am feeling remorseful.
Have I committed “date rape”? Am I a “predator”?
If the situation came to a courtroom, or if I were a public figure, would people judge me to be a “bad” man?
And finally, Amy, does it matter that this woman is my wife of 25 years?
— Wondering Husband
Dear Husband: I hope this didn’t really happen; I’m assuming instead that your question might be a disingenuous and rude little riddle, designed to trip up an unsuspecting reader.
However, let’s press on.
You ask for an objective opinion. Here’s mine:
Let’s establish at the outset that no, you are not a caring and sensitive man. No, you do not respect the #MeToo movement. That much is quite obvious.
Taking the scenario you describe at face value — yes, you sexually assaulted your wife. She was drunk; you were sober. She wasn’t able to consent to sex — not that you asked her.
No, you did not commit “date rape.” You did, however, commit “marital rape.” You pursued an incapacitated woman for the purpose of having sex with her. Yes, this makes you a predator.
Importantly, and unfortunately — your wife is married to a man who thinks this is a clever and legitimate question worthy of some sort of debate. I genuinely feel sorry for her. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Turn in your good husband card. You are a cad.




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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NICE RIDDLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder if the guy made it up or if it is true???????????????????????


In any case it exposes the MADNESS of LIE-beral Feminazi thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The couple was married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently for some years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the REAL WORLD of honestly married people that GIVES SOME LICENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- as married people...... one MUST presume they have had consensual sex in the past..........and will continue to do so in the future!!!!!!!


The "riddle" implies that both hubby and wife enjoyed the drunken escapade so wife was not injured or humiliated in any apparent or honestly measurable fashion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in the real world, the hubby who finds a naked, drunk and amorous wife on his hands usually offers up a quick prayer- "thank you God" before getting to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is a Latin phrase that lawyers use to indicate that a "case" is too trivial to be on interest to a court of law- and I suggest that is the case with this "riddle"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The married couple had Both been drinking and so there looks like there should be DIMINISHED RESPONSIBILITY in both cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In a truly equal world- why would we hold a drunken man to a higher standard than a drunken woman????????????????


Especially when they are married and therefore SOME sexual interaction is EXPECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Femninazis insist that women should be equal in all things and they tell us that women like sex as men do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet here we have an "advice" columnist calling a man a "CAD" because his horny wife wanted to use him for her pleasure!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral HYPOCRISY ABOUNDS in this riddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For instance - a marriage could traditionally be ANNULLED if it is not consummated with SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No sex usually equals DEAD MARRIAGE- even in LIE-beral land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So we are back to the previous statement about this issue being TOO TRIVIAL for anybody but a Feminazi LIE-beral to obsess over!!!!!!!!!!!


And it nicely illustrates the inability of Feminazis to discriminate between real and serious issues- and TRIVIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Feminazis and their LIE-beral ENABLERS have had their LIES exposed by many writers such as Christina Hoff Sumers!!!!!!!!!!!!


The MeToo movement is NOT truly working to protect women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MeToo is acting out a POLITICAL COUP as vile, dishonest and deceitful as anything ever envisioned by Lenin. Stalin, Hitler, Mao or Pol Pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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A BEST A MAN CAN GET? Gillette releases ad targeting 'toxic masculinity'
Veronica Henri
Published:
January 15, 2019
Updated:
January 15, 2019 6:21 PM EST
WATCH ABOVE as this new Gillette ad targets men through the #MeToo movement.
Do you think Gillette has gone too far? Or are they ahead of the game?
Tweet and Facebook us!
And don’t forget to subscribe to our YouTube Channel.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/a-...lette-releases-ad-targeting-toxic-masculinity
 

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A BEST A MAN CAN GET? Gillette releases ad targeting 'toxic masculinity'
Veronica Henri
Published:
January 15, 2019
Updated:
January 15, 2019 6:21 PM EST
WATCH ABOVE as this new Gillette ad targets men through the #MeToo movement.
Do you think Gillette has gone too far? Or are they ahead of the game?
Tweet and Facebook us!
And don’t forget to subscribe to our YouTube Channel.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/a-...lette-releases-ad-targeting-toxic-masculinity



Apparently the video no longer works as I tried both of the above links and while I can download the print portion, nothing happens with the video so they must be receiving negative feedback otherwise it would work wouldn't it? I wanted to watch it as I heard about it and wanted to make my on judgement.
 

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? I wanted to watch it as I heard about it and wanted to make my on judgement.

I'm guessing you might make an off judgement if you actually soy it.
:)
"...men need to hold other men.....accountable..."
I knows something about hypnotism and that, for an example, is a classic example of Ericsonian type suggestion.

https://www.naturalhypnosis.com/blog/what-is-ericksonian-hypnosis-and-how-is-it-used

I think this is a good analysis.

If one watches woman "wing lady" vids on youtube ( Yes, I do always want to learn new stuff) about what women really want, it is not what is in this add that's for sure. It is the EXACT OPPOSITE.
So really subliminally, this is a woman hate vid, likely made by some really soy NPCSJWs and/or women who can't compete and win alpha males. Well they got seen at least, so I guess it's a successful ad campaign.

As the elite beta soy boys have always said: "competition is a sin".
 
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Gillette ad on 'toxic masculinity' stirs debate
Associated Press
Published:
January 15, 2019
Updated:
January 15, 2019 6:04 PM EST
NEW YORK — A Gillette ad for men invoking the #MeToo movement is sparking intense online backlash, with accusations that it talks down to men and groups calling for a boycott. But Gillette says it doesn’t mind sparking a discussion. Since it debuted Monday, the Internet-only ad has garnered nearly 19 million views on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter — a level of buzz that any brand would covet.
The two-minute ad from Procter & Gamble’s razor brand shows men and boys engaging in bullying and sexual harassment and encourages men to “say the right thing” and “act the right way.” Taking on bullying, sexual harassment and toxic masculinity is a big task for a razor brand. Many critics took to social media saying it was insulting to men and laden with stereotypes.
The uproar comes as Gillette battles upstarts like Harrys Razors, Dollar Shave Club, and others for millennial dollars. Gillette controlled about 70 per cent of the U.S. market a decade ago. Last year, its market share dropped to below 50 per cent, according to Euromonitor
Allen Adamson, co-founder of branding firm Metaforce, called the ad a “hail Mary” pass from the 117-year-old company. But he added that online buzz, whether positive or negative, rarely makes a long-term difference for a marketer since memory fades quickly.
“Getting noticed and getting buzz is no easy task, and they’ve managed to break through,” Adamson said. “Most advertisers advertise, and no one notices because there is so much noise in the marketplace, so just getting noticed Is a big win, especially for low-interest category like a razor.”
On the flip side, it probably won’t sell many razors either, he said.
Gillette’s ad echoes other attempts by major advertisers to take on social issues. Pepsi pulled an ad in 2017 showing Kendall Jenner giving a cop a Pepsi during a protest and apologized after an outcry that it trivialized “Black Lives Matter” and other protest movements. Nike polarized the nation with an ad featuring ex-NFL player Colin Kaepernick who started a wave of protests among NFL players of police brutality, racial inequality and other social issues.
Sales weren’t affected in either of those cases. When controversy does affect sales, it is usually over something more substantive than an ad. Lululemon saw sales tumble in 2013 after a string of PR disasters including manufacturing problems that caused their pricey yoga pants to become see through and fat-shaming comments from their founder. But even that was short lived.
Ronn Torossian, CEO of 5WPR, said that much like Nike’s Kaepernick ad, Gillette likely knew the ad would garner online debate.
“Nike knew what they were getting themselves into,” Torossian said. The ad with Kapernick was “making a lot of noise, and it can’t be a surprise to (Gillette) that this is making a lot of noise.”
P&G, one of the world’s largest advertisers, is known for its anthemic spots that appeal to emotions during the Olympics and other events, often aimed at women, such as the tear-jerking “Thank You Mom” Olympics branding campaign and Always “Like a Girl” 2014 Super Bowl ad.
Pankaj Bhalla, North America brand director on Gillette says the controversy was not the intended goal of the ad, which is part of a larger campaign that takes a look at redefining Gillette’s longtime tagline “The Best a Man Can Get,” in different ways. Another online ad features one-handed NFL rookie Shaquem Griffin.
While he doesn’t want to lose sales or a boycott over the ad, “we would not discourage conversation or discussion because of that,” he said.
“Our ultimate aim is to groom the next generation of men, and if any of this helps even in a little way we’ll consider that a success,” he said.
Larry Chiagouris, marketing professor at Pace University, is skeptical.
“Treating people with respect, who can argue with that, but they’re kind of late to the party here, that’s the biggest problem,” he said. “It’s gratuitous and self-serving.”
http://torontosun.com/news/world/gillette-ad-on-toxic-masculinity-stirs-debate
 

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A BEST A MAN CAN GET? Gillette releases ad targeting 'toxic masculinity'
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Well, now that I've seen the ad, I don't really have a problem with it. For me, it basically says, if a man sees another man acting like an ass, tell him or do something about it. I can live with that.


Unfortunately, most of the messaging that seems to be toted about is that "ALL" men are A/H's, something which I totally disagree with. MOST men are good; it's the ones that aren't and whose actions are despicable that need to be addressed.


But you see when it comes to the "left" generalizations are acceptable. If you are right of center, then generalizations are NOT acceptable. Again, it's the hypocrisy of the "left" that is so annoying because they simply cannot see it for what it is.


With one or two exceptions, the men in my life have always treated me with respect. So out of the 100's of men I came into contact with (boyfriends when I was younger & co-workers), 2 were A/H's. So does that make "most" men A/H's because 2 of them were? Not by any stretch of my imagination. To me that's what is so wrong about this whole "masculinity" thing. Let "boys be boys" but also teach them that they need to respect EVERYONE, no matter who they are. Boys ARE different from girls and to "shame" them because they're boys and to state that being "male" or "masculine" as a "mental disorder" is disgusting.


JMHO