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Trump’s immigration speech was an insult to the nation’s intelligence


Trump’s speech failed fact-checks. It misinformed and persuaded no one. Why was it aired?

After watching President Trump’s primetime immigration speech Tuesday, my overwhelming impression was this: Why, oh why, did anyone think it was a good idea to air this on national television?
The most memorable portion of the address came when the president listed off a series of gruesome crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. He went into graphic detail, discussing the use of a hammer on one victim and the dismemberment of another. This, he argued, is why America needs a border wall: Undocumented immigrants are dangerous, and their entry must be blocked at all costs.
Except this is false. The data shows that undocumented immigrants are actually considerably less likely to commit crimes; states with more undocumented immigrants actually tend to have lower crime rates.
So the most striking part of the whole presentation was a lie, a recitation of anecdotes designed to mislead Americans about immigration and gin up anti-immigrant sentiment to score political points.



More: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18174773/trump-speech-fact-check-immigration
 
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I picture cliffy living in a trailer with NO WALLS. ( while the rats just walk right in and eat his lunch.)
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Just to show everyone how full of crap that idea and the left actually are.

Here is what a prominent LEFTY commentator said:

Trump VS Mainstream Media Pushing Opinion As "Fact Checking"


Tim Pool
Published on Jan 9, 2019

President Donald Trump gave an oval office address last night discussing immigration and border security. Afterward several mainstream outlets "fact checked him." However much of this fact checking was just opinion masquerading as fact. It was actually just more fake news

To make it worse many mainstream news outlets didn't even agree with each others "facts"

The one fact that most people agree on, however, is that Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer's response to the president was creepy and weird. Typically democrats don't respond to republican's in this way and vice versa.

The only way the left can get laid is to lie.
 
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Laura Ingraham: Trump has exposed the real collusion – It's between the media and open-border Democrats

The media's latest tactic -- and we're going to see more of it in the coming days -- is to re-feature the sob stories of government workers, who still, by the way, have not missed a paycheck. Well, watch carefully on what they're doing here. Rank emotional manipulation. Pure propaganda. Now, how many of these segments did they do over the years on American workers who got pushed out of entire industries as unscrupulous employers hire them for cash or at a fraction of the salary. How many close-up interviews of victims of illegal alien crime did they do? By the way, those people aren't experiencing a temporary loss of income, but a permanent loss of a family member.
Look at the front page of Wednesday's New York Times, which sought to frame the president's address a certain way. See the photo. It's a photo of migrants at a temporary kind of migrant shelter in Tijuana. Once again the media are focusing on interviewing people at the shelter, putting the feelings and the concerns of non-citizens over those of actual citizens. Well, at least the migrants have that nice widescreen and they could enjoy the president speech on that.
But perhaps the voters, after watching all this, hearing all of it, are not so easily manipulated. A Morning Consult poll found that a plurality of Americans - 42 percent -- believe the situation at the border is a crisis, including 72 percent of Republicans. Obviously, far fewer Democrats believe the border situation is a crisis.
Now, Trump has successfully shown that the Democrats are not substantively engaged in problem-solving on this issue of the border. But still, the media continues to carry the water for them. But when reporters begin acting like pundits, Kellyanne Conway showed us exactly how they should be treated on Tuesday when CNN's Jim Acosta asked her whether the president would "tell the truth" in his Oval Office address. In a moment that was all over television Wednesday, she called him a "smart ass." She obviously has been learning though from her boss a little bit.
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Trump laid the devastating smackdown on ABC's Jonathan Karl on Wednesday in the Oval Office as he was actually doing the business of the country. A series of human trafficking bills were signed. They were actually signed. Human trafficking, which all these other administrations were going to do something about, Trump is actually doing something about it. While all the other stuff is going on around him.
And women's empowerment, Democrats are supposed to be all for that, funding for all sorts of women entrepreneurship programs. Ivanka Trump has been working on that. Note: That was signed into law as well. It didn't matter. Not going to cover it. But we get to play the pundit game with the president.
Trump is dominating rhetorically and substantively. On Thursday, he heads to the border, where he's going to, again, I predict, take control of the news cycle. On Wednesday, he actually went to Capitol Hill and he met with congressional leaders at the White House before that. Again, the Democrats were not interested though in solutions, only in the sound bites afterward.
"Unfortunately, the president just got up and walked out. He just walked out," Senate Minority Chuck Schumer told reporters. "Again, we saw a temper tantrum because he couldn't get his way and he just walked out of the meeting."
OK. The President decided that he had enough. The Democrats just aren't operating in good faith here, so the president walked out, refusing to be part of their shutdown soap opera. He wants to get to yes. They want to stay at no.
Of all the media outlets out there, though, the AP was one of the few to properly frame the situation in a tweet they wrote: "Democrats put the blame for the shutdown on Trump, but it takes two to tango. Trump's demand for $5.7 billion for his border wall is one reason for the budget impasse. The Democrats refusal to approve the money is another."
Well, guess what? The AP was lashed by liberals for doing that little tweet. Just look at the online reaction. Looks like my Twitter feed. "AP fact check, Hindenburg was a very fine blimp and Democrats failed to appreciate it because it takes two to tango." "AP fact check, authorities put the blame for Hannibal Lecter's murder spree on the serial killer himself. But it takes two to tango." Amazing.
Well, Trump continues to be a powerful political astringent, as I like to say, and the face of politics as usual is feeling the sting, especially the ones we saw Tuesday night. It isn't pretty.
The real collusion, my friends, is in Washington, and it's the one that Trump has so masterfully exposed. It's the collusion between the American media and the open-borders Democratic Party.
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FULL BORDER BRIEFING: President Trump Learns Of Large Illegal Immigration Arrests At Border

President Trump on Thursday visited the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas and argued a barrier made of steel would deter human trafficking and other violent crimes, amid stalled negotiations with Democrats over funding the border project and ending the partial government shutdown.

"Where you have a good strong barrier, you don't have problems," the president told reporters during his tour.


During a briefing with border agents at a patrol station in McAllen, Trump highlighted gun, trafficking and drug crimes along the border. The president spoke in front of a table of items border agents have seized, including a rifle, handguns, a plastic bag full of cash and black-taped bricks of heroin and meth.

“If we had a barrier of any kind, a powerful barrier, whether it’s steel or concrete...We would stop it cold,” Trump said.

Back in Washington, Democrats on Thursday were blocked in the Senate after trying to proceed with House-passed spending bills that would fund the government and end the partial shutdown without new border wall money. But Sen. Mitch McConnell, the Republican majority leader, blocked that effort, saying it amounts to “pointless show votes.”

Border guards telling it like it is

133 people yesterday from non american countries who exploit the open border - many from the middle east.

90 % of the traffic is in the unfenced area.
 
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In least shocking news ever:

"Conservatives and people over the age of 65 were disproportionately likely to share articles from fake news domains during the last presidential election, researchers from Princeton University and New York University found in a recent study, the results of which were published in Science Advances this week."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ublicans-trump
 
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Hoid said:
In least shocking news ever:

"Conservatives and people over the age of 65 were disproportionately likely to share articles from fake news domains during the last presidential election, researchers from Princeton University and New York University found in a recent study, the results of which were published in Science Advances this week."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ublicans-trump
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Really , I believe Cliffy fits that bill .
 
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Twin_Moose said:
As shutdown drags, Trump administration seeks to soften blow
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From your article:

"The strategy seems to be to keep the shutdown in place, not worry about the effect on employees and furloughed people and contractors, but where the public might be annoyed, give a little,"

So, fair to say he doesn't give two shits about his employees or contractors?

OK, that's consistent with his history.
 
Twin_Moose

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If you kept going with the quote

said Alice Rivlin, who led OMB during the 21-day shutdown in 1996, the previous recordholder for the longest in history.
That's a clear difference between then and now, Rivlin said.
"We weren't trying to make it better. We were trying to emphasize the pain so it would be over," she said. "We wanted it to end. I'm not convinced the Trump administration does."
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So who is it that don't give 2 shits
 
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What should he do TB last year twice the Dems. got him to sign a deal with a promise to negotiate the wall, they offered the same this time as well only they are also saying no money for a wall
 
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What should he do TB last year twice the Dems. got him to sign a deal with a promise to negotiate the wall, they offered the same this time as well only they are also saying no money for a wall
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Oh, I don't know. Negotiate?

That you consider his bully-boy tactics and tantrums to be OK in a representative democracy says a lot about you.
 
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Why didn't Trump get his wall funded when the Republicans held the House and Senate?
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Oh, I don't know. Negotiate?
That you consider his bully-boy tactics and tantrums to be OK in a representative democracy says a lot about you.
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Why are the Dems not negotiating back?
Kreskin said:
Why didn't Trump get his wall funded when the Republicans held the House and Senate?
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Never had enough votes in the Senate needed 60 votes, and held 51 seats, Dems wouldn't budge
 
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If you combine the info below with Jarred (perhaps) being made the permanent Ambassador to Israel or even better UN head when the HQ moves to Jerusalem.

https://sputniknews.com/world/201901121071421398-ivanka-trump-world-bank-nominatino-reports/
Ivanka Trump May Become Next Head of World Bank - Reports

The World Bank Group's executive directors have yet to settle on a candidate to replace the outgoing president, who will depart the development lending organisation in three weeks to join a New York-based investment firm.

A list of candidates for the World Bank president has been floated as its current head, Jim Yong Kim, has announced his intention to step down on 1 February after more than six years at the organisation's helm.
According to a long-standing tradition, the World Bank is led by an American pick: the United States nominates the president as the largest shareholder in the financial institution. The US Treasury Department is said to have already received "a significant number of recommendations for good candidates" and kicked off "the internal review process" to decide on the candidate.
Those on the list, the Financial Times reports, include David Malpass, the Treasury's Under Secretary for International Affairs, Nikki Haley, who served as US envoy to the United Nations in 2017-2018, Mark Green, head of the US Agency for International Development, and last but not least, Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka.
 
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