Open military to non citizens?

Curious Cdn

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The Type 26 likely is the better ship. One if the big issues surrounding all if these warship purchases is that everything is concentrated in two shipyards with one in Scott Bryson's territory getting almost all of it. Davie is a very capable yard as well and, so far,is the only one to deliver a ship on time and on budget in decades (Asterix). An Admiral lost his job over that but it seems that he got it right. It boggles the mind that we didn't get another one built for the half billion that Davie wanted, instead of shelling out two billion plus per unit to Seaspan for what is essentially the equivalent. The fix appears to be in. You can't pave an alley in Canada without some sort of back-scratching shenanigans going on.
 

Hoid

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arms procurement in general and ship building in particular has always been corporate welfare.
 

spilledthebeer

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No, but a nice picture of you went straight to PLA headquarters when you did the start-up routine for it, Round Eyes.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Curious Cdn scored a funny hit on NzDoug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Can Curious SINK NZDoug?????????????????


The SAD REALITY of course is that LIE-berals have NO INTENTION of buying ANY WEAPONS of any sort!!!!


LIE-berals believe they can TALK any opponent to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are so deluded they believe they can paralyze Muslim Terrorists with LIE-beral propaganda!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berls have no intention of wasting THEIR GRAVY on controlling or identifying Muslim terrorists- much less actually deporting any of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are so stingy about wasting THEIR GRAVY on any national security issue that in summer 2017


they RELEASED SEVEN ACCUSED KILLERS because the cost of giving them trials was TOO


INCONVENIENTLY HIGH!!!!!!!


LIE-berals also released with trial 4 men who collectively had defrauded us of $44 million dollars- for the same weasel reason- a pair of trials would take too long and cost too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Considering how careless LIE-berals are of criminal matters it is HUGELY UNLIKELY that LIE-berals will ever buy us military weapons of ANY SORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to look at how POORLY ARMED the new Cdn De Wolf arctic patrol ships are - compared to similar ships of other navies such as that of the Danes- those rabid military hot heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy is following in his fathers foot steps here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The VILE Soviet friend Pierre Trudeau wanted to withdraw Canada from NATO and disband the Cdn military at the height of the Cold War against the Evil Empire- also known as Soviet Union!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy is having more success than vile father- as tensions between the west and Russia, China,



North Korea and Iran ramp up- Canada has NEVER BEFORE been so defenseless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Cdn military has never been so small or so obsolete or so close to rusting out completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WE no longer have any credible defense of our own lands and have no capacity to aid our allies either!!!!!!!!!


And that suits LIE-berals just FINE- since LIE-berals WANT TO SEE Yankees humiliated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its just too bad that we Cdns will suffer along with the Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But our Yankee HATING LIE-berals figure they will be exempted from punishment when the Cdn Caliphate is


imposed on us- because LIE-berals are politically correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Canada could be flying Australia's used F-18 fighters this summer

The Canadian government has completed a deal to purchase Australia's old F-18 fighter jets and the first of the 25 used jets should arrive this spring, the Department of National Defence confirms.
The Trudeau government announced back in 2017 that it would buy 18 used Australian F-18s as an interim measure to bolster the air force until the entire Canadian fleet of CF-18s is replaced, beginning in the mid-2020s.
The other seven Australian jets it bought will be used for testing and spare parts.
The Australians had to get permission from the U.S. to sell the planes because they were manufactured in the States, but officials with Defence said the deal between Canada and Australia was finalized in November.
News of the official agreement was first reported by the National Post Thursday.
Pat Finn, in charge of the materiel branch at National Defence, told CBC News back in February that he didn't expect the first wave of jets to arrive until summer 2019.
Officials with DND now say the first two planes will arrive this spring.
The department said the first arrivals could be operational by the summer, while a second group of planes could arrive later this year.
The Australian aircraft cost about $90 million, but the total cost of the acquisition project (including upgrades, salaries and a contingency plan) will be closer to $500 million.
When Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan announced plans to buy Australia's used jets more than a year ago, he also launched a competition to replace the CF-18s, which were originally purchased in the 1980s but have received significant upgrades in the decades since.
Canada had wanted to buy brand new Boeing Super Hornets, the more advanced version of the FA-18 and CF-18, but that proposal went down in flames when the manufacturer, Chicago-based Boeing, filed a trade complaint against Canadian aerospace giant Bombardier.
Sajjan has said the used jets are needed to address Canada's "urgent capability gap" and that Canada doesn't have enough planes to meet its NATO and North American Aerospace Defence Command (Norad) commitments at the same time.

Australia had to ask for US permission to sell their mothball planes to Canada too funny
 

Curious Cdn

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Well, you know that our aluminum smelters that date back to WWII are now officially a strategic threat to the USA ...
 

NZDoug

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No, but a nice picture of you went straight to PLA headquarters when you did the start-up routine for it, Round Eyes.
Palestine Liberatrion Authority?
Salam elekum.
Now manned aircraft are a thing of the past.
"REMEMBER THE BOMARC"
Video killed the radio star.
Plus they got another one that cost triple more than the f35 on paper.
Just buy a Huawei phone and be done with it.
 

spilledthebeer

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Canada could be flying Australia's used F-18 fighters this summer



Australia had to ask for US permission to sell their mothball planes to Canada too funny


Well..............IT MIGHT NOT be funny that Australia had to get Yankee permission to sell the planes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For one thing they are apparently modern enough to have NEWER communication gear- which means ENCRIPTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Yankees would NOT WANT Chinese agents getting their hands on the latest NATO com gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And one does not know what sort of weapon systems are on the planes either?????


If they have late model missile guidance or radar gear then it also needs to be kept out of Chinese hands!!!!!!!!!!!!


And hey- no need to single out China- keeping advanced gear out of the hands of Iranians and North Koreans would also be a good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This issue of theft of technology is also why is calling Canada a security risk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin- the aspiring Soviet dictator of the north has repeatedly shown a preference for ANTI WESTERN ALLIES!!!!!!!!!


His enthusiasm for welcoming home Isis fighters, his gifts of Cdn aid to terror group Hamas. his reluctance to join western allies in


imposing sanctions on the Iranian nuclear bomb builders, his utter indifference to wide spread money laundering by criminal gangs in



Canada, his wide open borders with NO security checks on illegals- all these things are sending UGLY messages to the FORMER



ALLIES OF CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Well, you know that our aluminum smelters that date back to WWII are now officially a strategic threat to the USA ...


POOR STUPID and not so Curious Cdn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He is too stupid to realize that hitting at Cdn trade is an easy response to PUNISH our HYPOCRITE LIE-berals and their aspiring Soviet Dictator for Life- that idiot Boy Justin Trudeau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn LIE-berals have handled both Cdn national security and cross border security so badly that worried Yankees have decided that



Canada should NOW BE SEEN AS A BAD ALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THE ONLY THING PROTECTING US FROM A COMPLETELY CLOSED BORDER are various Conservative leaders who have gone



to United States to explain that Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals DO NOT reflect the TRUE Cdn majority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees have been mollified by the Cdn Conservative truth- that Our idiot Boy got his support in 2015 thanks to shameless bribery of special interest groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And of course now the money has run out thanks in large part to the devastation LIE-berals have forced on the Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks also to the hordes of illegals that are costing us huge money that would be better spent on repairing public transit and on repairing ROTTING and not so affordable housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And worst of all - for LIE-berals- they have discovered that the civil service union Hog appetite for gravy is ENDLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has run up $72 billion dollars in deficits in his first 3 years in office and in spite of that LIE-beral frenzy of vote buying our



idiot Boy HAS FAILED to BUY enough friends to ensure another majority govt for himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees are re-assured also by the fall of various LIE-beral provincial govts and by the popularity of the Conservative Ford govt in



Ontari-owe- which represents 40 percent of the entire Cdn population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hoid

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Speed is passe in fighter jet capability.

IN fact fighter jets are passe in terms of aviation capability.

They are only effective against inferior force - like dropping bombs on Libya etc etc.

So still good for controlling the 2nd and 3rd world, but useless against modern weaponry.
 

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How 'bout you shut the **** up until you grow the balls to put on a uniform yourself, Jody?


It's not about "balls"! Some people are lovers and some are fighters. I for one am NOT a fighter unless as an absolute last resort. I don't want to kill any strangers and I don't want them killing me! It takes more "balls" to walk away from a fight than to engage in one...……………….. more brains too! :) :)
 

Hoid

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You don't want to kill anyone you just want other people to kill for you.

Yes, we all get it.
 

Curious Cdn

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It's not about "balls"! Some people are lovers and some are fighters. I for one am NOT a fighter unless as an absolute last resort. I don't want to kill any strangers and I don't want them killing me! It takes more "balls" to walk away from a fight than to engage in one...……………….. more brains too! :) :)
Someone else can do the hauling, driving, fighting and dying for you, eh?

Well, thanks for that.
 

Curious Cdn

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NORAD desperate to justify their existence.
If you get rid of NORAD, the USAF then patrols ALL of our air space without our knowledge, permission and possibly against our strategic interests, from time-to-time.

You'll be the first whiner in line when some future American fruit-loop ding-dong President starts disallowing tourist flights returning from Cuba and turning them back to land in Mexico or the Carribean.

Don't think for a second that they aren't capable of electing someone like that or doing something like that because of the gigantic security threat that Cuba represents to that undereducated 1/3rd.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It's not about "balls"!
Yeah, it is.

Sorry, son, but since the middle 1800s there has been exactly one conflict that was an existential threat to Canada and the U.S. And no, it wasn't WWII. Neither Germany nor Japan possessed the necessary technology nor industrial power to destroy or conquer North America.

It was the Cold War. And you and I had the ability and opportunity to sign up and do our part. Curious Cdn did. EagleSmack did. gopher did. Blackleaf did. I did.

It was a rough war. No medals, no adoring crowds. We maintained the pressure, and the readiness. The unofficial motto of SOCIII in western Germany was "Anytime, baby!" We held the line until the internal contradictions of the Soviet Union brought it crashing down.

Not everybody participated. It wasn't an "all hands on deck" situation like the World Wars were. I don't fault any man for not getting stuck in. And I don't fault any man for questioning whether this or that military decision, then or now, was the right one.

But all y'all fellas that didn't sign up owe those of us who did "pride of place" in discussions of military policies and politics. Not that you don't have a voice and a choice, just that the sort of common decency that you seem so concerned about means you let the ones who served have their say before you stick your oar in.

I don't mean this to be hostile or aggravating. I hope I didn't come off that way. But the choices we made give us the right to jump to the head of the queue.
 

Curious Cdn

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It cost trillions of dollars and four and a half decades to win. Millions died in fringe proxy wars gererated by the Cold War but, most importantly, humanity (and vertebrate life itself) survived. Better millions than billions.