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Curious Cdn

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Says the guy whose air force's symbol is a flightless bird.
But seriously, folks, the Kiwis make wonderful aircraft.
They're called "cars."
And by "make," I mean "import from Australia and Japan."
They make a model of car exported to Australia just 3 kms from my house at the Ford Oakville Assembly Plant. It's a right-hand drive diesel version of the Ford Edge called the "Endura".

 

NZDoug

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Says the guy whose air force's symbol is a flightless bird.
But seriously, folks, the Kiwis make wonderful aircraft.
They're called "cars."
And by "make," I mean "import from Australia and Japan."

Hey, I am not my countries keeper.
NZ main defense is were too nice to blow up.
Every other place is munted.
Like the Taliban and El Queda, we prefer 70 series Lan Cruiser or Hilux.
I learned to fly the Wong way.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I learned to fly the Wong Way as the hanger boy at Toronto Island Airport and served her Majesty in 201 Centre " 🍩" Donut SQN. RCAC.
So there.
Oh yeah? Big deal. I flew an F-54 "Bonespur" with the Bigly Covfefe Squadron (the "Screaming Chickenhawks).

Those anti-caravan missions on the Mexican border were tough!
 

spilledthebeer

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Oh yeah? Big deal. I flew an F-54 "Bonespur" with the Bigly Covfefe Squadron (the "Screaming Chickenhawks).

Those anti-caravan missions on the Mexican border were tough!


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It is truly amazing how much HORSE SH+T LIE-berals will throw into any conversation about national security and Muslim terror!!!!!!!!


The type and number if THREATS that LIE-berals are IGNORING is truly remarkable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is yet another article illustrating just how utterly bigoted LIE-berals are in favour of Muslim terror groups. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Vancouver imam urges sending weapons to Palestinians to fight 'Zionists'

Douglas Todd. Published: October 31, 2017. Updated:
October 31, 2017 8:00 PM EDT. Filed Under: Toronto SUN News Toronto & GTA

Canadian imam Tarek Ramadan delivers Friday sermon at the MAC Centre, Vancouver, B.C., on July 28, 2017. The imam of a Vancouver mosque is under fire for calling on Muslims to send “money, weapons and expertise” to Palestinians to fight “Zionists” in Israel.

(Its that “expertise” that is most worrying- its why Our idiot Boy justin should NOT have sent so many of our soldiers to train Kurds and others in Iraq! The more military training Arabic groups get- the more effective they become at killing Jews! Our idiot Boy should have left the Cdn fighter jets in place against Isis and kept the infantry trainers HOME! That way- once Isis was defeated there would not be a large cadre of fully trained and well armed Arab fighters left in the region! More air power means less infantry needed to defeat Isis and Our idiot Boy has done the opposite- making for a longer drawn out fight- with more widows and orphans produced in the process! Our idiot Boy talks often about peace to distract the foolish- and then keeps doing stupid things to wreck the process because he HATES Yankees!)

B’nai B’rith Canada, a Jewish organization, on Tuesday released videos in which an imam at a Kingsway mosque, Tarek Ramadan, is seen referring to Israelis as “an impure gang” and Zionists as the “worst of mankind.”

Recorded this summer, the video shows Ramadan calling on his congregation to “fight, by any means necessary” against Zionists in a jihad, or holy struggle. “We are not going to be shy or wishy-washy about it.”

(Isn’t that nice- right around the time this Hate Speech was being delivered by video to “The Faithful”- LIE-berals were ARRESTING a Mississauga white man on hate crime charges for daring to offer a thousand dollars to anybody who could provide proof of the hatred being promoted in Cdn Mosques! And NOW he has his proof- and it did not cost him a penny! Do you suppose the Human Rights Kangaroo Court will allow him to present this news media stuff about “arming PLO” in his own defence? Or will he be convicted as a bigot because he has embarrassed LIE-berals by daring to expose the HUGE and dangerous holes in LIE-beral immigration and national security policy?)

(And shortly before that arrest of a white man seeking proof of Muslim Hare Speech, in summer 2017, main stream Cdn media published a report by two Cdn journalists detailing what most ordinary Cdns would call anti Jewish HATE filled propaganda being displayed on ALL Cdn Muslim Mosque and Muslim school web sites! The report went on to say that moderate Muslims are being shouted down by radicals on every Muslim forum.)

(LIE-berals IGNORED the report by the journalists- apparently because the reporters have resources behind them and thus a trial of such people would be COSTLY and prolonged with LIE-berals being challenged to fully expose their BIAS to the public! But one lone Mississauga guy can be harassed by Human Rights-but to often WRONG Kangaroo Court tribunals because he does not have major resources behind him- and does NOT have a major new media outlet to expose the Hypocrisy! Such is the quality of respect offered by LIE-berals to the concept of free speech!)

The video of Ramadan’s English-language talk was obtained by an international organization called the Middle East Media Research Institute, which often exposes hate speech. One of its directors is Reid Morgan, former director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

(A radical Muslim language post in English? They are getting bolder- the report by the two Cdn journalists covered Arabic posts- should we think that Muslims no longer feel the need to hide their hate of Jews and the West behind that Arabic language screen- as LIE-berals ignored the reporters expose and Muslims now feel comfortable- thanks to LIE-beral support- to speak freely of their HATE?)

(And where does that leave the Mississauga guy? Should we assume that LIE-berals will continue to prosecute him in their biased Kangaroo Court- the one stacked with LIE-beral judges? LIE-berals are very skilled at using “libel chill” legal threats to silence opponents! One has only to think of Ontari-owe LIE-berals launching their libel suit against Conservatives for exposing the LIE-beral gas plant scandal to realize how easily LIE-berals fall into legal bluff mode in hope of intimidating critics- yes- LIE-berals using OUR tax money to SILENCE legitimate critics! In fact- many defenders of free speech fear that LIE-berals will be using their Islamohobia legislation to silence critics of ANY LIE-beral policy!)

B’nai B’rith is calling on Ramadan to be dismissed from his position and has filed a complaint with the Vancouver Police Department.

It also wants an inquiry held into the actions of the Muslim Association of Canada, which operates the mosque and which B’nai B’rith says shared the “offensive” sermon on its YouTube channel.

In his sermon, Ramadan says that the famous Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, which is patrolled by Israeli security officials, “should only be in the custody of the Muslims. It should not be in the custody of the Christians, the Jews or anybody else.” Zionists, Ramadan said, have “no holiness, no respect for anybody.”

(He does not want Christians at Al Aqsa Mosque either- oh there is the kindly tolerance and understanding that Our idiot Boy Justin speaks of so often- to so little effect!)

Representatives of the Muslim Association of Canada could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

(NO doubt these Jihadists CAN NOT be counted upon to display traditional Cdn tolerance and openness! As I have said before- these radical attitudes are a creeping cancer that- if left untreated- will alter our country and its values forever. Tolerance is one thing- but allowing ourselves to be invaded by forces seeking to change us in every imaginable way just so LIE-berals can BUY their votes and cling to power at any price is madness!)
 

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It is truly amazing how much HORSE SH+T LIE-berals will throw into any conversation about national security and Muslim terror!!!!!!!!
It's truly amazing that you aren't out raking the forest like Captain Covfefe said you need to do.

Lazy scum.
 

spilledthebeer

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It's truly amazing that you aren't out raking the forest like Captain Covfefe said you need to do.

Lazy scum.


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PITY POOR Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why dont you go look up the old National Geographic magazines DETAILING exactly how "forest management" made wild fires in Yellowstone Park MUCH WORSE in the 1980`s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Small, regular, controlled burbs are required to limit the size of wild fires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And considering that the size of California wild fires has been GROWING in each of the past few years - just as the wild fires in Yellowstone grew year after year due to sloppy management - one has to wonder if Trump is ON TO THE TRUTH HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Forget manned aircraft and go with Trumps idea.
The Royal Canadian Space Cadets.


I guess you are one of the Senior Cadets then Doug?


And a lot of Cdns would be grateful if LIE-berals did ANYTHING about national security- EXCEPT IGNORE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better border security so guns can not so easily be smuggled in would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some major efforts to track and punish fentanyl vendors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some serious efforts to EVICT drug dealers, drug addled hookers and the assorted gang banger and criminals that infest our not so "affordable" and very definitely CRUMBLING housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Even something simple like tracking the illegals that are swarming to our country would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





ANYTHING that would make us a little safer would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals SCORN such things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating that LIE-berals are giving us utterly FAKE NEWS about our economy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto food bank usage at recession levels.

THE CANADIAN PRESS. FIRST POSTED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 09:55 AM EDT | UPDATED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 04:28 PM EDT

TORONTO - Food bank visits in Canada’s most populous city are back up to levels seen after the last recession hit the country, with a spike in the number of seniors accessing their services in the last year, according to a report released Monday.

The Daily Bread Food Bank’s annual report shows that there were nearly one million food bank visits in Toronto between April last year and March this year. The figure is the highest number in the city since 2010, which is when the organization says the effects of the 2008 recession hit residents the hardest.

It also says people are relying on food banks longer than before with the average length increasing to 24 months in 2017, up from 12 months in 2010.

The numbers suggest a state of affairs that is not being captured by standard economic indicators, the food bank said.

(LIE-beral calculations on a host of things are deliberately skewed! For instance it was LIE-beral Jean Chretien who changed how full time work was measured- previously you were working `full time` if you had 40 hours per week- but to make the unemployment numbers look better LIE-berals decided you would be `fully employed` if you had 28 hours of work- and too bad if you cannot live on that! LIE-beral Chretien also monkeyed with rules for access to unemployment insurance thus allowing some people to fall off the govt radar and not be counted. LIE-beral claims regarding our economy are as suspect as their assurances that our massive debt is not a problem!)

“While we’re having this on-paper economic prosperity, we’re seeing many people who are falling out of the labour market due to age or disability or people who are struggling within the labour market because of the instability of the work that they’re getting,” said Richard Matern, Daily Bread’s director of research and communications.

(LIE-berals do Not want to discuss the fact that of those who retire voluntarily before age 65- two thirds are civil service Hogs with those fabulous pensions that are breaking our economy! Private sector simply cannot afford to retire in the luxury that Hogs wallow in! With the added bonus that LIE-berals INSIST that you retired voluntarily if you took the buy out from your collapsing industry because the buy out was better than staying on the job for another 6 months and then being thrown out with NOTHING!)

(LIE-berals completely ignore the tens of thousands of Cdns wh could anc would and quite often NEED to work- if only they could find a job in our debauched and over taxed economy! In an effort to handle their gross debts, LIE-berals have reduced interest rates to record lows and thus screwed millions of Cdns who are trying to live on meagre little pensions with utterly inadequate returns on investment that simply do NOT cover massive LIE-beral tax increases on EVERYTHING! It is the LIE-beral Carbon crap and trade scam that is behind much of the fiscal trouble and it is LIE-beral desire to cling to power at any price by buying Hog votes that is the other major economy killer!)

Though people 65 and over make up a relatively small proportion of food bank users, they have become the fastest-rising age group of clients, the report says. The number of seniors accessing food banks has gone up nearly 27 per cent since last year, compared with other age groups which have shown an increase between 14 and 18 per cent, it says.

(Greedy LIE-berals are willing to sneer at and dismiss poverty stricken seniors because LIE-berals regard them as sloppy and careless as they should have saved more for their old age- that LIE-berals have taxed Cdns so heavily that its not possible to save any significant pile of pennies is not understood by greedy LIE-berals! Nor do LIE-berals wish to discuss the massive flood of Hog pension money- all of it borrowed- and which ordinary people MUST pay back for entitled Hogs- that is gobbling up all decent investments! Hog pension fund managers with billions of dollars under their control have shoved aside ordinary Cdns trying to invest their pennies!)

“What we saw is what happens when there’s a group that’s on a fixed income and is particularly vulnerable to rising costs like we saw in Toronto in the areas of housing and in food, in certain cases,” Matern said.

“Many seniors, the most common reason that they’ve had to skip food for, they say, is rent and also prescription drugs,” he said.

(LIE-berals do not understand why stupid old folks do not move out of the city to some small town where its cheaper to live. LIE-berals forget that there is NO public transit in most towns in Canada and often no hospital either thanks to LIE-beral `economies` in health care either so as soon as a senior becomes ill an extended and costly trip BACK to the city and its health services is required! With the added bonus that moving away from the city means leaving behind friends and family to go into relative isolation out in the woods!)

“So many seniors who are of course less likely to be getting support from other sources or who are less likely to be able to get outside sources of income such as employment and also have greater health-care needs are more vulnerable to these types of changes in the economy around inflation.”

Wanda Morris, vice-president of advocacy for CARP, formerly known as the Canadian Association for Retired Persons, said the rise in food bank use among seniors is “a huge concern.”

One factor may be that seniors aren’t getting all the support they are entitled to, she said, particularly through the Guaranteed Income Supplement program.

Low-income seniors are eligible for the program if they receive Old Age Security, have an annual income below a specific threshold and have lived in Canada at least 10 years. But research shows thousands of seniors who qualify aren’t claiming it, Morris said.

“Part of the problem isn’t that there isn’t a program, it’s how do we get our most vulnerable seniors to take advantage of what is available for them,” she said, noting that many seniors don’t have internet access.

(OH GREAT! Who thinks it is a good idea for some senior to try to use a highly complex computer access system to access govt money- when they barely know how to turn the gizmo ON? Seniors are ALREADY prime target for scammers and hackers- and who wants to bet that there will be an explosion of fraud if seniors are encouraged to get on the net often with their banking and pension information? And there is ANOTHER REASON not to move to a small town- all govt service offices are in the big city- meaning you have to come back to the city to deal with them! AS seniors get more frail- small town life looks increasingly like a trap they cannot escape from without losing their shirts!)

(Seniors are also less than enthusiastic about selling their long time home and moving into cheaper rental accommodation as they are more likely to be exposed there to crime and violence, to bed bugs and cock roaches, to be badly in-convenienced when elevators fail and trap them without food or medication on the eight floor, to be stuck in the cold when heating systems or power fail for what may be weeks on end. In short, seniors figure they are better off to stay in their homes- the ones that fuzzy minded LIE-berals such as Mel Lastman WANT THEM OUT OF- for HIS convenience!)

She said housing costs are also an issue for people on a fixed income.

Daily Bread said its findings “reinforce the observation that the current system of income support is inadequate to deal with the labour market, economic realities and an aging population.”

(Hydro prices up 10- 20 percent per year, water rates up 5- 9 percent per year, food up 20 percent per year, property taxes up 2-3 percent per year- and with old age pension and supplements virtually FROZEN- and LIE-berals find it hard to understand why `stupid` seniors are having a difficult time!)

Two government initiatives — one provincial, one federal — may help alleviate the strain on low-income residents, Matern said.

Ontario’s basic income pilot project is being rolled out in several municipalities, including Hamilton and Thunder Bay, Ont., in an effort to reduce poverty. The federal government, meanwhile, is working on a national housing strategy meant to increase access to affordable homes.

(OH LIE-berals DO SO ENJOY making grand announcements that do not pan out- its just LIE-berals re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic! Its all bait and switch- money in one pocket and back out the other- a game LIE-berals long ago perfected!)

Matern said the food bank is asking Ottawa to ensure the strategy includes a portable housing benefit that would be given to tenants to help cover their rent.

(OH- a portable housing benefit? NO GOOD! That would mean NEW money for old folks- something LIE-berals will NOT offer as they will need ALL their gravy for Hog raises and for their new illegal friends flooding across our borders!)

“If that’s implemented, it would have a huge impact on helping to address the need,” he said.

The report is based on in-person surveys of more than 1,400 food bank clients and visit data from food banks across the city.
 

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I guess you are one of the Senior Cadets then Doug?
Well, in 1968 I joined the Vagabonds Motorcycle Club and I became a space cowboy.
Getting back to the F-35, I think every day of no decision is a day of money saved, as history will show it as a piece of junk.
I think we would be better off to go shopping at
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sert-can-now-be-explored-online-10077079.html
and we could make money doing moves at least.
Better still, an airborne international fire fighting force.
Better still, clean up some shit hole countries, and build them some schools and universities.
This would be our contribution to eliminate the war on terror.
wutchathimk?
 

Curious Cdn

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Getting back to the F-35, I think every day of no decision is a day of money saved, as history will show it as a piece of junk

It's a really, really expensive piece of junk, so much do that Allied air forces have to pare their numbers of airframes down to dangerously vulnerable numbers just to finance the things. It's a major military disaster in the making. Oh, the power of those lobbiests, eh?

Majinot line was cutting edge in 1919, too.
 

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As if you know anything about military matters.


Majinot.... It's spelled Maginot.


Damn you are a dumbass.
 

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The F35 or whatever fighter they decide on will be a massive waste of tax dollars.

Just like the new warships.

We are hopelessly married to a military model that is obsolete and worthless
 

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We should look into the Euro fighter since it is by Airbus which now has Bombardier merged in, might be able to talk them into a plant in Canada, like Boeing which is why F-35, and Super Hornet is appealing to Canada.