Catholic End Time Prophecy

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2000 years of end time prophesies and we are still waiting. Is this horror ever going to end? (I'm not referring to the end of times but the end of moronic prophesying).
 

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"Woe to them that desire the day of the Lord:
to what end is it for you?
the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light." Amos 5:18

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Many televangelists and fundamentalists sects are voicing a cry that the end is near and they expect the return of Jesus Christ. In spite their dire warnings, the year 2000 has come and gone without mishap, so they will have to revise their predictions. The Catholic traditions have a somewhat different view of End Time prophecies.
A Summary of specific Catholic teachings on the End times
These are the teachings of the Catholic Church on the End Times that must be believed by all the Faithful.
-The Resurrection of the Dead. The teachings of the Catholic Church teach the actual resurrection of all flesh in their own bodies (including the damned), not merely a spiritual resurrection. This teaching is affirmed in both the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed.
-The General Judgement. After the resurrection of all flesh, there will follow the universal judgement. Christ will sit upon the throne of judgement and render to each man according to his works (Matthew 16:27).
-The Destruction of the World. The world will be destroyed at the command of Our Divine Lord Jesus Christ. The fulfillment of this prophecy will be supernatural and not as a result of atomic wars, or geological or astronomical disturbances.
-The Reign of the Church Victorious. The faithful of the Church will live and reign with Christ forever. The devils and evil men will be damned forever without reprieve.
Errors in Interpreting End-Time Prophecy
Over the history of the Church, some errors have sprung up concerning the End Times.
Millenarianism
The teaching of millenarianism, that Christ before the Final Judgement will come visibly to rule over this world, is a serious error condemned by Pius XII. Indeed, the teaching of millenarianism is the very thing the Antichrist will need to set up his rule over the world.
Setting Dates
A common error is to try to set actual dates on the Second coming. The Sacred Scriptures point out this error: But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32).
However, in 1832 Pope Gregory XVI did indicate that the time of the "plague of locusts (Revelation 9:3)" had arrived in his Encyclical "Mirari vos arbitramur."
The "Rapture"
A popular belief of the 20th Century among Bible fundamentalists is the concept of a taking up of the true Christians before the coming of the Antichrist. Their scriptural support for this theory largely vague and symbolic, and based on the assumption that the rapture theory is true.
They cite I Thessalonians 4:16 as the basis for this claim. However, the verse before, I Thessalonians 4:15, clearly shows that the dead in Christ rise first. This same event, the first ressurection, occurs after the return of Our Divine Lord Jesus Christ and the defeat of the Antichrist. In fact, those that rule and reign with Christ a thousand years are those that are martyred during the reign of the Antichrist. (Revelations 20:4-6)
The Rebuilding of the Temple
In this day we find many sects and denominations looking for the re-building of a temple in Jerusalem with great anticipation. Why any Christian would welcome such a thing is beyond me. If animals are again sacrificed in a temple in Jerusalem, would not the blood of every calf, lamb or goat sacrificed be a denial of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross? (Hebrews 10:10) Is not the denial of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus the very spirit of the antichrist?
In Matthew 24:2, Jesus prophesies about the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem. Jesus says nothing about the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. It is true that Jesus said, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." (John 2:19) However, Jesus was speaking of His Body, which is the Temple of the Holy Ghost. (John 2:21)
The prophesy of the destruction of the Temple came about in 70 AD with the siege of Vespasian. There were a few stones left of the foundation left. Later, Emperor Julian the Apostate attempted to discredit the prophesy of Our Divine Lord Jesus Christ by ordering the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. Jews from all over the Roman Empire supported the task with great zeal and huge amounts of gold and silver. The task was accompanied by great scorn for the Christians in the empire, who believed that the Temple was not to be rebuilt. In order to provide a foundation for the "new temple" the final stones left of the old foundation were cleared away, completing the prophecy of Jesus.
As they began the re-building, earthquakes broke out all over the temple mount, halting the effort. When the earthquakes subsided, they attempted to begin again. As they approached the foundations, balls of blue fire exploded from the ground burning many of the workmen. Finally the effort was abandoned without laying a single stone of the new temple.
How to Interpret End Time Prophecy
The Sacred Scriptures and Church teachings hold the primacy of place in what we are to understand about the end times. Moreover, the writings of the early Fathers (Patristic) and the Saints have much to say about the end times also. The Church does not censure the study of these private revelations, in so long as the prophecy comes from a virtuous source. In fact, it is even considered acceptable to study the writings of Nostradamus, who was a Catholic Scholar. However, the Church teaches us to approach any end-time prophecy with a critical eye. Here are some guidelines to follow in the study of end-time prophets.
The study should edify the soul
Studying end time prophets should draw us closer to God, not away from Him. It should not bring on a morbid preoccupation of the end times, to the exclusion of Christian charity and duties. It should not lead you to wish for the damnation of others or to hasten destruction of the world, etc. (Amos 5:18)
The study should not lead to errors of the faith
The study of end time prophecies should not lead you into beliefs contrary to the teaching of the Holy Church. You should be suspicious of any revelation that purports or promotes dogmatic errors. (Deuteronomy 13:1-3)
A Generally Accepted Sequence of Events
The following is a summary of the sequence of end-time events based on the Scriptures, the writings of the early Church Fathers, the Saints and noted Catholic scholars.
-The threat from the kings of the east.
-A pope makes a special decree and is driven from Rome. He dies a terrible death.
-A new Pope is elected outside of Rome.He crowns a Christian king. This King defends the west from the kings of the east.
-Three days of darkness and the great chastisement (associated with a comet).
-The Christian king is victorous over the east, and a period of peace and evangelization occurs.
-The people do not appreciate the grace of the peace, and after a time, the Antichrist rises to power out of Babylon.
-The Antichrist rules for three and a half years. The two witnesses preach against him.
-The Antichrist kills the two witnesses. They rise from the dead on the third day, and are taken into heaven.
-Forty days later, The Antichrist tries to rise up to heaven by magic. He is struck from the heavens.
-Christ returns to the earth, appearing in the heavens.
-The dead Christians rise from the grave and are taken into a new heaven and a new earth.
-The Christians yet living are taken up to a new heaven and a new earth. As the "Rapture" fans can see the Catholic scholars are very post-tribulation.
-Christ destroys the old heaven and earth.

The reading from Amos is the best caution for this topic, thank you, sanctus.

I have come to know the resurrection and the Judgment in a deep and intimate way, never desired, but shown to me by Christ Jesus from His Eternal Throne.

I haven't been home since November 8, 2012 A.D. due to the conflict of Daniel 11:40; this November day includes public, verifiable proof of the meeting of the two kings foretold in the verse; as regards the greatest of the four-digit numbers in the Book of Daniel (which is now the last of the four-digit numbers to be rendered in interpretation yet it is the first of the four-digit numbers to be introduced in the prophecy of Daniel in chapter 8, verse 14), November 8, 2012 A.D. was the 58th day into the counting to 2,300 days, 59th in some of the earlier time zones.

The reason for this seeming enigmatic solution is because of the closing and sealing of the Book of Daniel as recorded in chapter 12, verses 4 & 9; thus the opening and unsealing has a dramatic side to it.

The key to this opening was delivered to the 16th century physician Michel Nostradame as recorded in Book IV:#95 of his Centuries (Prophecies).

Although in sanctus' original post one reads of the resistance to the kings of the east, it was in the passing of one of them that the key to open and unseal the Book of Daniel was given.

This is how we have arrived at the blessing of Daniel's prophecy as foretold in chapter 12, verse 12, "Blessed is he who waits and comes unto 1,335 days."

There are amazing specifics to this unfolding to the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D.

But the countdown to the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14 continues, and is reached in its foretold finality in less that 165 days as of this post, Holy Family Saturday, December 29, 2018 A.D.

God has indeed been bountiful in His blessing us this way, as the case of tampering with the Book of Daniel as regards verses 20 & 21 of chapter 11 in the printing of the Coverdale Bible of 1535 A.D. and subsequent English translations including such error has been fought from Christ's throne in the inclusion of the words "the time of the end" in Daniel 11:40 and the Daniel 12:4 & 9 references.

Such use of "the time of the end" has been another key point in ascertaining the rightful interpretation of the Book of Daniel, making that meeting of November 8, 2012 A.D. a prerequisite for such interpretation, and thus the basis for refutation of the erroneous inclusion of Antiochus Epiphanes as being one of the kings foretold in Daniel 11.

This is a highly intense and specific study/conclusion, and is a case of what Jesus meant when He said that there would be false christs and prophets who would "lead astray even the Elect, if that were possible".
 

Harikrish

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Jesus and the six objectives of Daniel 9:24-27
1) "to finish transgression, " 2) "to put an end to sin, " 3) "to atone for wickedness, " 4) "to bring in everlasting righteousness, " 5) "to seal up vision and prophecy, " and 6) "to anoint the most holy. "

Jesus did not meet the 6 objectives in Daniel 9:24-27
1) "to finish transgression, "

The desolation was a result of the continued transgression by the Jews.
2)"to put an end to sin, "
Jesus did not put an end to sin which was why the desolation was brought upon the Jews.

3) "to atone for wickedness, "
Jesus did not atone for the sins of the Jews because if he did there would be no need to continue with the desolation of the Jews.

4) "to bring in everlasting righteousness, "
Jesus did not bring everlasting righteousness, He brought about the abomination of desolation upon the temple, Jerusalem and Israel.

5) "to seal up vision and prophecy, " and
Jesus did not seal up vision and prophecy. John continued to have vision and prophecy in Revelation.

6) "to anoint the most holy. "
There was no anointment of the most holy. Jesus was mocked, Beaten, Ridiculed and finally crucified by the Romans. Even the Jewish high priest held Jesus in contempt.
Jesus was seen as a blasphemous liar and a lunatic, A demon possessed madman.

Jesus was not Daniels anointed one:
Jesus was a madman and demon possessed according to his family and the people who heard him speak.

Mark 3:21 When His family heard about this, They went out to take custody of Him, Saying, "He is out of His mind. "

John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him? . . .

Luke 23:21 but they kept shouting, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!

John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work, " said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, Because You, Who are a man, Declare Yourself to be God.
 
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Gilgamesh

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Jesus and the six objectives of Daniel 9:24-27
1) "to finish transgression, " 2) "to put an end to sin, " 3) "to atone for wickedness, " 4) "to bring in everlasting righteousness, " 5) "to seal up vision and prophecy, " and 6) "to anoint the most holy. "

Jesus did not meet the 6 objectives in Daniel 9:24-27
1) "to finish transgression, "

The desolation was a result of the continued transgression by the Jews.
2)"to put an end to sin, "
Jesus did not put an end to sin which was why the desolation was brought upon the Jews.

3) "to atone for wickedness, "
Jesus did not atone for the sins of the Jews because if he did there would be no need to continue with the desolation of the Jews.

4) "to bring in everlasting righteousness, "
Jesus did not bring everlasting righteousness, He brought about the abomination of desolation upon the temple, Jerusalem and Israel.

5) "to seal up vision and prophecy, " and
Jesus did not seal up vision and prophecy. John continued to have vision and prophecy in Revelation.

6) "to anoint the most holy. "
There was no anointment of the most holy. Jesus was mocked, Beaten, Ridiculed and finally crucified by the Romans. Even the Jewish high priest held Jesus in contempt.
Jesus was seen as a blasphemous liar and a lunatic, A demon possessed madman.

Jesus was not Daniels anointed one:
Jesus was a madman and demon possessed according to his family and the people who heard him speak.

Mark 3:21 When His family heard about this, They went out to take custody of Him, Saying, "He is out of His mind. "

John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him? . . .

Luke 23:21 but they kept shouting, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!

John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work, " said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, Because You, Who are a man, Declare Yourself to be God.
Prophecy is impossible. Physics does not allow for it.

Therefore anyone claiming prophetic powers is a liar, a fool, or a charlatan. Unsurprisingly, prophecy is the bedrock of all religion (!)

Therefire, they are not worth a nanosecond of any rational thinking persons time.

Unfortunately it seems that many here can't even pass that low hurdle.

My sympathies.
 

Harikrish

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Prophecy is impossible. Physics does not allow for it.
Therefore anyone claiming prophetic powers is a liar, a fool, or a charlatan. Unsurprisingly, prophecy is the bedrock of all religion (!)
Therefire, they are not worth a nanosecond of any rational thinking persons time.
Unfortunately it seems that many here can't even pass that low hurdle.
My sympathies.

Predictability is part of the scientific method. Prophecy is making predictions of future events. It carries a higher accountability because prophets are put to death if they are wrong.
 

MHz

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His posts are better than yours so why don't you go away or at least stay off the threads that are way fuking above your intellect level. He sounds Jewish, you should stop insulting him.