trudeau doesnt give a **** about indigeneous peoples rights

Tecumsehsbones

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Um. . . no "leader" in the history of Canada (or the U.S.) has given four asterisks for indigenous people's rights. And why should they? Induns don't vote and don't donate.

So once every four or five years the candidates put on a feather hat and declare their deep love and respect for Induns. They check that box, then move on to the important stuff.

Which is, within certain parameters, how it should be. The ideal solution is to ignore "indigenous rights" altogether. Better yet, eliminate them.
 

MHz

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The Rights or the Indians?

Big Pharma would then only have poor blacks and white people on welfare to use as lab-rats.


JT went to see the Indians first on his campaign trail. In hindsight he was showing the 'least important' that he knew they were there.

Since then he has been with with the ones that are determined they have it as good as it will ever get for them. Not so much for their own crimes but as an example of what will happen if you resist the Bankers.
 

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Um. . . no "leader" in the history of Canada (or the U.S.) has given four asterisks for indigenous people's rights. And why should they? Induns don't vote and don't donate.

So once every four or five years the candidates put on a feather hat and declare their deep love and respect for Induns. They check that box, then move on to the important stuff.

Which is, within certain parameters, how it should be. The ideal solution is to ignore "indigenous rights" altogether. Better yet, eliminate them.


The 'ideal' here in Canada would be to completely dismantle the Indian Act.
 

MHz

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Let's try getting the money to said Indians first and see if taking it away from the grafters improves things.
 

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Let's try getting the money to said Indians first and see if taking it away from the grafters improves things.
Grafters, like the UN? Funny that eh? We're giving billions and billions to the UN for their 3rd world pet projects and yet we have far too many people here in Canada living in third world conditions. If the Turd had any balls and truly cared about Indigenous people in Canada, he'd tell the UN, "Sorry, but we have our own piece of the third world right here in Canada. That's where Canadian aid should be going. We're going to have to give you guys a pass on the money-grab".
 

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Grafters, like the UN? Funny that eh? We're giving billions and billions to the UN for their 3rd world pet projects and yet we have far too many people here in Canada living in third world conditions. If the Turd had any balls and truly cared about Indigenous people in Canada, he'd tell the UN, "Sorry, but we have our own piece of the third world right here in Canada. That's where Canadian aid should be going. We're going to have to give you guys a pass on the money-grab".

Is the 3rd world conditions you speak of because of lack of funds? or mismanagement of said funds?
 

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After Trudeau gave a speech mentioning the trials and tribulations of natives, referencing their lack of recreational facilities, Mr. Saganaugh wrote Trudeau a terrific letter explaining that yes, since he became an MP in Ottawa, his greatest problem had been finding a place to store his canoe.


I could grow to like this guy.


Although I disagree with him.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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After Trudeau gave a speech mentioning the trials and tribulations of natives, referencing their lack of recreational facilities, Mr. Saganaugh wrote Trudeau a terrific letter explaining that yes, since he became an MP in Ottawa, his greatest problem had been finding a place to store his canoe.
I could grow to like this guy.
Although I disagree with him.
What, you don't think it's hard to store a canoe in Ottawa? What the hell do you know, whatever-the-insulting-term-for-a-person-in-New-Brunswick-is?
 

Jinentonix

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Is the 3rd world conditions you speak of because of lack of funds? or mismanagement of said funds?
No question some are the result of mismanagement, but on the more isolated reserves it's usually a case of lack of funds. When you get up into the far north of Ontario and into the NWT, even the basics are ridiculously expensive. That includes the fuel they absolutely need for heating, light and cooking. Except for the few weeks of winter when the winter roads are open, pretty much all of their supplies and goods are flown in on small aircraft, unless they're lucky enough to live near a deep water port. And even then they might see 2-4 ships in a year.
And unlike reserves that have a permanent road/highway connection, the isolated reserves have little to no business or light industry because there's no way to sell their goods and/or services to the outside world.
 

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It's Saint John NB. Both my parents are from Saint John and if you spell it St. John they both flip their lids.

St. John's is Newfoundland, yes.


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DAMNED RIGHT_ NO LIE-beral has any respect for natives -except as voting tools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It was Pierre Trudeau and his Indian Affairs minister- the ODIOUS Jean Chretien who identified natives as a significant voting block that could be BOUGHT- CHEAPLY- and LIE-berals have been buying native votes with various IDIOT SCHEMES ever since!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral bigotry has been so poisonous that it has encouraged natives to indulge in this kind of crap:



Here is an article illustrating the utterly dysfunctional life in a typical native town. With some comments of my own brackets):

6 Nunavut schools are uninsurable because of past arson`s

cbc.ca By Nick Murray

Nanook School in Iqaluit's satellite community of Apex is one of six uninsurable schools in Nunavut since its value is lower than the government's $20 million deductible.

Six schools in Nunavut are uninsurable because of the territory's sky-high insurance deductible, thanks to a pair of school arsons over the past few years.

According to Nunavut's Finance Department, the lone schools in the communities of Chesterfield Inlet, Whale Cove and Resolute Bay are valued at less than the government's $20 million deductible for property insurance . Two schools in Iqaluit and the elementary school in Gjoa Haven are also uninsurable. The department said the government doesn't pay insurance premiums on those six schools.

A deductible is the amount of money that the government has to pay out of pocket before the insurance company will reimburse any remaining value of the schools.

The government's insurance deductible rose to $10 million after Cape Dorset's Peter Pitseolak School was destroyed by arson in 2016 — at the time, the school was under-insured by $17 million .

The insurance company raised the deductible again in 2017 to $20 million after Kugaardjuq School in Kugaaruk burned down .

"Any school that's been burnt, and hopefully that will never happen, will have to be replaced through our appropriations. If they're valued at under $20 million, then we have to pay for the full amount," Finance Minister David Akeeagok told CBC News in March.

(This is not the first time that arsonists have played havoc with facilities in native communities! The tv show W-5 created by Eric Malling- now deceased- made quite a stir nearly 30 years ago detailing the series of arson`s on reserves- with multiple houses going up in smoke. Malling also exposed systemic corruption on reserves- in one case natives won govt funding to build a sawmill to harvest timber from their reserve land- after the mill was built it sat un-used for years and then was burned by arsonists- without ever cutting a single piece of wood- burned along with the majority of houses on the reserve beside the mill! Insurance companies have good reason to shun policies for natives!)

(IN another case two prisoners died in jail from a fire they had deliberately set in their own cells after being arrested for being drunk and disorderly! Sadly-the jail was home built and each cell was locked with padlocks- cops did not have time to find the right keys needed to release prisoners before fire engulfed the jail! To make matters worse- news media noted that a year AFTER the inquest into the deaths of the two men had ended- a prefabricated jail that had been supplied by govt was still laying ROTTING on the dock where it had been delivered- without the band bothering to assemble it!)

"For liabilities it's huge. With the amount of incidents that's taken place, we're trying to promote that people should [refrain] from doing these unnecessary incidents."

(No kidding! It is understandable that natives might not like white people much but the ugly reality is that natives are their own worst enemies! Violence, drug abuse and corruption are endemic on reserves! To make matters worse, LIE-berals have decided that condemning the gross corruption might lose them votes so they are going out of their way to pretend nothing is wrong!)

'We need to do more': MLA

Akeeagok said the government is doing what it can to mitigate arson potential at schools across Nunavut, including closing off access under buildings and installing security cameras in every school.

Specifically in Cape Dorset, the government hired a private company to provide 24-hour security services to protect Sam Pudlat Elementary School, according to documents obtained by CBC through Access to Information.

The government hired the security company after there were five arson attempts from the time Peter Pitseolak High School burned down in September 2015, to when the tender was ordered in December 2016.

Iqaluit-Tasiluk MLA George Hickes raised the issue in the Legislature mid-March, asking Minister Akeeagok what implications there would be with the territory's insurance provider if another school goes up in flames.

Akeeagok responded that the government needs to show insurance companies it's doing a better job of protecting schools.

(Screw the hopeless pursuit of insurance for schools! Clearly the priority now is surveillance and the arrest and punishment of aspiring arsonists!)

"We need to remind all of our students and all of the public that schools, health centres, garages are all of the public's buildings, and they are there to serve the public," Akeeagok said at the time.

(This is NOT a job for LIE-berals- they are far too busy telling white people we are all systemic racists and Islamophobes! LIE-berals are buying native votes by encouraging them to think they are victims of white racists instead of simply being to often violence prone, ill educated and drug addicted, with attitude problems!)

Speaking with CBC News Monday, Hickes said there's more the government can do to prevent schools from being intentionally burned down.

"There needs to be more diligence," Hickes said, pointing to a recent arson attempt in Iqaluit, and a break-in and vandalism of a school in Baker Lake in April.

"Thankfully those people who broke into the Baker Lake school didn't start a fire ... We need to do more from a security standpoint."

Arsons have wide-reaching impact

In a statement, Nunavut's Department of Finance said it's prepared if another school were to go up in flames, but said it will put a strain on other areas of funding programs and services.

(No kidding? The repeated loss of buildings in such isolated places where everything must be flown or trucked in from suppliers usually located thousands of miles away would strain any budget- especially in a communities where unemployment is routinely over 80 percent!)

"In the event of another school fire, the GN will be able to handle the costs of rebuilding a school, but this reduces funds available for other important programs and buildings. School fires have serious impacts on the GN's overall ability to deliver the programs and services Nunavummiut expect," the department said.
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"Also of concern, another school fire would have significant negative impacts on the GN's ability to purchase affordable property insurance for schools in the future."

The department said the government sets aside a contingency fund every year in its budget — $40 million in 2017/18 — which the government uses to cover emergencies and other unforeseen events like school fires, but also to introduce or expand new programs or infrastructure needs over the year.

(The arson at northern schools is symptomatic of a much larger problem! One has only to look at northern housing stocks to see that very few have waterproof siding installed and this allows them to deteriorate swiftly from water damage! We KNOW govt ships prefab housing to reserves- with the housing arriving ready to assemble and the packing crates contain everything from concrete foundation material to roofing supplies- so WHERE is the waterproof siding? WHY is it so often NOT INSTALLED? Shall we ask if natives sold it for BEER MONEY? And the related question is this: “why do LIE-berals seem not to care about this corruption and waste”?)
 

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After Trudeau gave a speech mentioning the trials and tribulations of natives, referencing their lack of recreational facilities, Mr. Saganaugh wrote Trudeau a terrific letter explaining that yes, since he became an MP in Ottawa, his greatest problem had been finding a place to store his canoe.
I could grow to like this guy.
Although I disagree with him.

Are you referring to Romeo Saganash? I find that I often agree with the principles he espouses but disagree with the details. Then again, I even sometimes wonder if he agrees with his own details or they are more to emphasize the points of his principles. He does come up with interesting ideas sometimes.