Ford government admits they can't do what they promised
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It would be nice to see NS use the notwithstanding clause to ignore the Ottawa carbon tax. Nova Scotians already took several long term major steps towards carbon reduction which has saddled them with higher heating and fuel costs. Ottawa needs to be told that their 'one size fits all' solution will result in a double dipping system in Nova Scotia.
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DIG Doug Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spare the clause and spoil the LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug teaches lousy loser LIE-berals the OLD SCHOOL WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No weasel words and no double dealing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article illustrating the poisoned logic of LIE-beral thinkers. With some comments of my own in brackets):
Bills insulating Ford government from lawsuits show it's 'closed for business,' experts charge
By Farrah Merali. Cdn Press. July 27. 2018
Doug Ford told supporters on the night of his election win that Ontario is now 'open for business,' but some experts say recent moves by his government show the opposite.
It's not every day that the first two bills a government introduces have clauses that protect it from being sued, but in the past two weeks of the summer session at Queen's Park, the Progressive Conservative government has done just that.
(It is an illustration of how ENTITLED LIE-berals and their civil service union Hog allies have become that protection from frivolous lawsuits IS NEEDED!!!!!!)
Bill 2, the Urgent Priorities Act, enacted back to work legislation for striking York University workers, introduced more transparency for compensation of Hydro One executives and the CEO, and cancelled the controversial White Pines wind turbine project in Prince Edward County. The bill passed on Wednesday it contained a clause that protects the government from civil liability.
(OH DEAR! York faculty are the highest paid of any faculty in Canada and their GREED knows NO LIMITS- and Hydro One execs are in the same privileged boat! Democratic govts around the world long ago decided that companies that have a monopoly- and groups like CUPE and ETFO and CUPW COULD NOT EXIST without their monopoly- must be more heavily regulated than others- for the good of society and to prevent price gouging! York faculty are SUING govt to reverse a CENTURY of democracy and REPUDIATE fair play in their PUBLICLY OWNED work place!)
Similarly, Bill 4 — tabled on Wednesday — cancelled cap and trade in Ontario and included a clause that says the government can't be sued.
(Again we see grossly entitled Hogs WHINING! Carbon crap and trade crap was a creation of LIE-beral govt that enriched the friends of LIE-beral party and ruined our Ontari-owe economy! There is NO REASON why LIE-beral friends should hang on to their entitlements in the face of public RAGE that destroyed Wynne-bag LIE-beral govt and DEMOCRATICALLY gave Ford govt its decisive mandate!)
(There IS an argument to be made that contracts that have been signed but products not yet delivered at the time of the new legislation should be completed- and this would mean that the roughly 600 Ontarians who had paid deposits and ordered Tesla electric Toy cars should have those contracts upheld- BUT THERE IS NO REASON why Ford govt should NOT BE ALLOWED to KILL any future govt subsidized contracts of that sort!)
(Further- there are wind farm companies who hold contracts with former Wynne-bag LIE-beral govt entitling them to erect wind generators- who have not yet exercised their rights to do so- and since they have NOT spent a penny yet on their proposals they are NOT ENTITLED to a penny of govt compensation for ALLEGED LOSS of future revenue! The old saying “use it or lose it” definitely applies here! Companies that did privileged and biassed business with LIE-berals are NOT entitled to demand that the govt gravy keep flowing even after LIE-berals are DEMOCRATICALLY defeated!)
Despite Doug Ford's election night pledge that Ontario is now open for business , some experts say the government's move to protect itself from civil lawsuits by outside companies is a sign of exactly the opposite.
Open or closed?
"It's unusual," Nelson Wiseman, a political scientist at the University of Toronto, said of the use of the immunity clause.
(OH! A political science professor at a university known for SUPPORTING LIE-beral bigotry wants to lecture people who are taking away his ENTITLEMENTS! If Ford had given college and university staffers the FIFTY PERCENT PAY RAISE they demanded of LIE-berals last spring- would they still be carping at F|ord? This a graphic demonstration of Hog sour grapes and gross entitlements- they do not care if their greed damages our democracy and economy in the process!)
"It happens, but it's not something that you want you want to do, certainly regularly. You'd only want to do it in extraordinary circumstances."
(The bankruptcy of Canada and the imminence of govt hitting the debt wall and being compelled by massive pressures to drastically curtail borrowing- with resulting catastrophic consequences for Cdn economy NEEDS TO BE REGARDED as “extraordinary circumstances”! A recent stduy suggests that failure to get a decent NAFTA deal wirth resulting AVOIDANCE of HUGE Yankee tariffs could drive our federal deficit to $120 billion dollars per year- with obviously catastrophic consequences! Unless of course you like the idea of Venezuelan style bankruptcy and social anarchy!)
University of Toronto political scientist Nelson Wiseman says two pieces of legislation meant to immunize the government from civil lawsuits send a message to companies that the province is closed for business.
(And anybody who is NOT a LIE-beral hypocrite knows those two pieces of legislation signal nothing more than a REDUCTION of GROSS LIE-beral entitlements- the govt gravy train has MERELY LOST TWO CARS!!!)
Wiseman said inserting an immunity clause into two major bills casts doubt on Ford's assertion that the province is now putting out the welcome mat.
The White Pines wind turbine project — that was killed under Bill 2 — had been under development for nearly a decade.
(The company that owns White Pines DOES OWN other wind turbine projects that are up and operating- currently WITHOUT GOVT INTERFERENCE! However Ford has promised to look into the contracts and to RENEGOTIATE them at the first opportunity! Again this is nothing more than a SCALING BACK OF LIE-beral GREED!)
(These other wind projects were forced onto rural Ontari-owe residents in a stunning reversal of the democratic process that denies local people the right to object to the devaluation of their land by ugly and noisy neighbouring wind farms! Nor are locals allowed to sue for noise and other inconvenience thanks to a LIE-beral choice to grossly violate traditional private land rights!)
(TVO/the Agenda played a documentary of a British wind farm test case in which evidence of noise and vibration was completely and deliberately distorted! The machine that was tested for the legal case was ONE THIRD THE SIZE of the machine the Brit family wer complaining about and in addition the test machine was TWICE AS FAR AWAY as the machine being complained about! The LIE-beral FIX was IN!)
(IN LIE-beral parlance “being closed for business” means NO LONGER giving LIE-berals and their Hog allies the right to ERASE OUR RIGHTS for their profit and convenience - as they have done so often in the past!!!)
Earlier this month, the president of WPD Canada, a subsidiary of the German company behind the project, said cancelling the project could cost more than $100 million . The compensation to the company will be limited to the direct cost it has incurred to this point. And the new bill prevents the company from suing.
(And is it not ODD that Germany is scaling back its own wind farms as they have decided the subsides are TOO COSTLY? Our federal Environment Minister “Climate Bsrbie” McKenna has recently admitted that the carbon crap and trade program is a JOB KILLER! That $100 million is nothing more than expected company profit IF LIE-berals had remained in power! Since the company has NOT SPENT any money on their new project they are NOT ENTITLED to OUR CASH!)
Similarly, Bill 4, the Cap and Trade Cancellation Act, could leave companies on the hook for huge amounts of money. Part of the legislation is a compensation framework for companies that have already bought an estimated $2.78 billion worth of carbon credits. But most won't be compensated.
(It is unfortunate that private companies are on the hook for misguided LIE-beral carbon crap policy- but this is NOTHING NEW! When one govt introduces high taxes and then the next govt lowers them- tax payers ARE NOT ENTITLED to a tax refund!
"New governments are completely free to determine their own course. But this kind of sudden change in direction as a result of an election does have an unfortunate by-product," said Ross.
(Yes- and LIE-berals and their Hog allies are so grossly entitled they see nothing wrong with grabbing up every bit of govt gravy they can- and then squealing like the PIGS they are when gravy is put out of their reach by a democratic vote!)
I could hear all the weeping and gnashing of teeth from here when it was announced doug succeeded in shunting the TO council gravy train onto a siding. Whatever will these trough feeders do now to occupy themselves after being liberated from their cu$hy seat warming position?
Doug Ford’s plan to slash Toronto council may be constitutional, but it isn’t fair
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edi...l-may-be-constitutional-but-it-isnt-fair.html
Too funny. Delicious. Schadenfreude.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edi...l-may-be-constitutional-but-it-isnt-fair.html
Too funny. Delicious. Schadenfreude.
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FAIR????????????????????????
You want FAIR?????????????????????
YOU cannot handle FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walter CANNOT HANDLE FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada is bankrupt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Walter thinks it is FAIR to waste huge sums of money that we do not have on the very politicians who drove us to this penurious state!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walter- GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE HOG TROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ONLY people attacking Ford are civil service union Hogs who worry their gravy train may be DERAILED by ANGRY VOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is an article explaining why our schools are crumbling into ruin. With some comments of my own in brackets):
80% of all increases in school spending went to salaries, benefits and pensions: Fraser Institute
By Kevin Connor, Toronto Sun. First posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 06:13 AM EDT
Salaries, pensions and benefits are responsible for the majority of public-school spending in Canada, a new study finds.
(I hope nobody thinks that is a surprise!)
Nearly 80% of all increases in public-education spending in the country went to compensating teachers and staff, the Fraser Institute report, entitled 2016 Understanding the Increases in Education Spending in Public Schools in Canada, shows.
The study’s author, Deani Van Pelt, says spending has increased from $44.3 billion in 2004-05 to $62.6 billion in 2013-14. She spoke with the Sun about the findings.
(So much for teachers whining about being “underfunded”! That increase from $44 billion to $62 billion is well above the govt “target” for inflation! )
Q: How is the money being spent?
A: “Contrary to misconceptions, public education spending has increased dramatically across the country, and it’s important for parents and taxpayers to know the bulk of that money goes to teachers and other staff.”
Q: Where exactly is the money going?
A: “That’s what we wanted to know. Salaries did go up, but there are three categories where the money went including pension and benefits. There was a dramatic increase in the amount going to benefits and pensions, and in the last decade the employer contribution to teachers’ pensions almost doubled.”
The outgoing chairman of the OSSTF/Ontari-owe high school teachers pension management team came on TVO/The Agenda and told host Paiken that the OSSTF pension fund would be bankrupt in about 5 years- meaning just before June 2018 election UNLESS govt shovelled about $55 billion dollars into the fund to cover deficits- greedy Hogs are taking money out faster than vote hungry LIE-berals can shovel it in!)
(This desperate need to buy votes by supporting the VAST GREED of Hogs is apparently the reason why LIE-berals created their vile mouldy green energy mess- and then slammed shut the books in an apparent effort to HIDE how they were using electricity price gouging to funnel more Gravy into Hog pensions! And there are 18 more provincial unions right behind OSSTF - all with their own pension requirements!)
(In addition- as of 2012- Cdn federal unions were owed something over $300 billion dollars in LIE-beral pension IOU`s - with LIE-beral friendly Cdn news media no longer discussing the impending bankruptcy of 97 percent of defined benefit pension plans in Canada- apparently saving LIE-berals from being embarassed is more important than national bankruptcy! And no wonder LIE-berals are pushing their carbon crap and trade scam so hard!)
Q: What about claims that education spending has seen cuts?
A: “The share we spend on education is going up, so complaints that we are spending less aren’t true. If anything is on the decline, it isn’t on the compensation side. Ontario stands out dramatically. Only 14 cents of each dollar goes to education supplies, resources and service and 86% of each dollar goes to compensation and capital.”
(Actually- Toronto Sun produced an article proving that funding for schools has risen 50 percent FASTER than health care spending- in spite of the fact that school enrollments are dropping and numbers of hospital visits are RISING! LIE-berals have made their choice as to what votes to buy- and it means the old and sick being screwed by vote hungry LIE-berals!)
Q: What money goes into capital spending?
A: “Capital spending, for new schools and renovations, increased from $3 billion to $4.9 billion in the last decade even though every province saw a decline (average 4.2%) in enrolment ... increased capital spending helps explain the overall increase in education spending.”
Q: What needs to be done?
A: “A clear understanding of public school spending, particularly in the light of chronic complaints from quarters about a lack of resources, is vital for anyone concerned about improving our children’s education.”
KEY FINDINGS
• Education spending increased by $18.2 billion, or 41%, in the last decade.
• In Ontario during the last 10 years, teacher pension spending increased by 106%.
(CLEARLY it is Hog pensions- at every level of govt that are driving our deficits! We simply do not have the resources to pay Hogs as they feel ENTITLED!)
• Teacher pension costs increased 91.5% in the last 10 years, from $2.3 billion to $4.3 billion.
(And in spite of this pension increase- Ontari-owe teachers abandoned Wynne-bag LIE-berals and gave their support to NDP- in expectation of a greater supply of ndp GRAVY than LIE-berals could offer! The battle for Hog pensions will NOT be going away any time soon The frantic efforts of LIE-beral and NDP politicians to gain power by purchasing Hog votes is damaging every aspect of our Cdn economy! Hogs believe they are entitled to be IMMUNE to the economic chaos they are creating and this attitude must DIE!)
Funny. I could say the exact same thing about all the land claims that wrongly gave public land to native bands which has a severe negetive impact on all other citizens.
Bonnie lysyk has been warning for years fallout from the dolton wynne creative accounting scam(s) of hiding deficits could well bankrupt the province, hydro hi-jink$ alone could sink smaller nations. Poor ole doug must've had a helluva shock when the account books were pried open revealing column upon column of red ink that politically colour blind libs called black.
I wish doug well but feel ontario is fatally injured, even an army of backhoes dumping toonies into a debt hole this deep will take forever and a day.
I wish doug well but feel ontario is fatally injured, even an army of backhoes dumping toonies into a debt hole this deep will take forever and a day.
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A KEY LIE-beral budget LIE was to count money held for OSSTF high school teachers pension fund AS ASSETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes- LIE-berals counted ten billion dollars in teacher pension money as ASSETS- AND IGNORED the fifty five billion dollars in IOU`s LIE-berals had issued in previous years!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And there are EIGHTEEN MORE provincial civil service Hog unions right behind OSSTF- and ALL holding hundreds of billions of dollars in LIE-beral pension IOU`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-beral accounting is a DISGRACE and a MORTAL INSULT to all tax payers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Hoid thinks he can blandly DENY ALL the LIE-beral crap and not look like a FOOL????????????????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an older article to illustrate why Ontari-owe now has a FIFTEEN BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT- as revealed by independent auditors!
Foolish and grossly selfish LIE-berals are engaged in acts of unprecedented political vandalism committed against both Cdn public and other political parties.
First, Ontari-owe LIE-berals have sworn their budget is balanced- and that is exposed as a LIE- shown up by two sets of govt accountants- and now by third party accountants! LIE-berals had decided they are not likely to be in power after the June 2018 election and so can safely leave this fiscal hand grenade for whomever forms the next govt!
Civil service Hog allies of LIE-berals agreed that LIE-beral fortunes are fading and have made the best of a bad deal and signed contracts giving them a series of 2 percent wage increases in each of the coming 4 years- with not a penny in the current budget for this new cost. Ontari-owe currently spends 75 percent of its entire yearly budget- in the $300 billion dollar range- on WAGES for Hogs so a 2 percent increase means another multi billion dollar hole to add to the NOT balanced budget!
LIE-berals had ordered a BIG increase in the minimum wage- in an effort to impress the foolish with their “generosity”- without the bother of considering where the new wages will come from! The wage increase is a fiscal hit for corporations who will legitimately be able to reduce their corporate tax payments to govt! Its NOT corporate income to be taxed if its all paid out in wages! And yet- civil service Hogs insist that corporations should pay more taxes- in addition to the higher wages! LIE-berals and Hogs do not care who the bludgeon into bankruptcy!
We have already documented the multi billion dollar fiscal holes LIE-berals have already dug- how much of that wage increase will be taxed away to pay for LIE-beral generosity to Hogs? WE know that in spite of the minimum wage increase; and the extra gravy for Hogs- that real incomes are dropping thanks to soaring taxes! LIE-berals will leave this MESS of huge debts and grossly demanding and spolied Hogs to whomever forms the next govt to wrestle with!
LIE-berals know that a wage increase of 20 percent or more will put workers into a higher tax bracket- with no news of how much higher till next year- AFTER the election and LIE-berals are safely out of office and away from blame!
LIE-berals know that a higher wage mandates increased Canada Pension Plan payments and how much of that money will be syphoned off to pay for Hog entitlements- with Hog pensions being a MAJOR MONEY GRABBER?
LIE-berals know that higher wages mandate increased Unemployment Insurance payments and how much of that will be syphoned off for Hog pension funds?
LIE-berals have invited a huge pack of illegals to come here without bothering to consider the costs. LIE-berals have done NO real security checks for the teeming tens of thousands who are either on their way or already here and that is angering Yankees who do not want to import Muslim terrorists and organized crime along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber. How much of the wage increase will disappear if- as seems likely- LIE-berals sabotage NAFTA and persuade Yankees to close the border and hit Cdn economy very hard in the process?
LIE-berals have made NO plans for how to dispose of failed illegals. They do not want to discuss the cost to round up and identify and organize travel papers and charter planes for these illegals. We know it is common for illegals to destroy their identity documents to make it harder to identify and deport them- its harder to send them away if you do not know where they came from in the first place!
LIE-berals are hoping to persuade us it is easier to keep the illegals than to ship them out! But LIE-berals make no plans for the long term costs of welfare, housing, emergency dental work, clothing allowance, language classes and other expenses that will be needed for a LONG time to aid these people who lack the education and language skills to quickly become self supporting- especially if NAFTA dies and our economy takes a hit!
LIE-berals know that the illegals that are already here are straining our social safety nets- they tell us there has been a 30 percent increase in the use of homeless shelters but do not say why? Is it because LIE-berals are lying about our allegedly booming economy? Or are we getting inundated by a huge mass of COSTLY illegals? Or both? It looks like BOTH to me!
IN related immigration matters- LIE-berals have loosened up immigration standards so that people of inadequate skills and education- people who will be dependent on LIE-beral aid in order to survive here- can get into Canada under the “Family Reunification” legislation and in exchange will reward LIE-berals for letting them in by voting for LIE-berals and LIE-berals do not want to discuss the cost of this shameless vote buying “generosity” either.
LIE-berals think we should be happy with our minimum wage increase- but they do not tell us about their grossly inflationary plans to increase the Ontari-owe carbon tax- with resulting inflation on everything that will kill any increase in wage benefit! They do not tell us how much they will increase tuition fees now that we have more money in our pockets- but we do know that College and University senior staff have been DEMANDING a fifty percent raise in pay- with LIE-berals telling them to shut up- TILL AFTER the 2018 election!
LIE-berals do not want to talk about the rising prices that will hit us hard if NAFTA DIES due to LIE-beral indifference to national security issues!
LIE-berals are talking about THE ECONOMIC NEED to let interest rates rise slowly- without talking about how much more it will cost to service student debts, pay off credit cards or the hardships that rising interest rates will impose on our economy.
The HARSH REALITY is that ALL LIE-beral policy is failing......and their only solution thus far is to shout “RACIST” at their growing number of critics!
Have heard nothing from ms.mulroney about fraud charges being brought toward wynne &co., claiming teacher pension funds as the peoples money is fraudulent at best. She's new to the job but hopefully she makes an issue of this creative accounting.
Not holding my breath though, dolton blew a few $bil playing gas plant hop scotch to buy a few votes so I doubt wynne looses any sleep, accountability is a four letter word in pc circles.
Not holding my breath though, dolton blew a few $bil playing gas plant hop scotch to buy a few votes so I doubt wynne looses any sleep, accountability is a four letter word in pc circles.
Yeah well it turns out the Liberals lied about the finances in Ontario so it doesn't surprise me that Ford will have to take a second look on some promises. That's why we should never believe promises that politicians make because in all likelihood, they won't be kept. Look @ panty-waste JT - he said he was all for the middle-class and who is now taxed more than ever? Scammers, the lot of them!!
JMHO
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