Gun Control is Completely Useless.


Tecumsehsbones
#9871
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

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Hey- t-bones full of hypocrisy- why dont you talk about the loaded sawed off rifle that the friends of Coulton Boushie dropped on the driveway when Stanley confronted them with his pistol??????????????
And this is exactly why ALL LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LYING about facts will NOT get LIE-berals reelected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nor will LIES earn natives the twisted and poisoned version of justice they seek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What lies, you imbecile?

Are you claiming that Stanley didn't claim he had a hangfire, or that Albrecht didn't claim that his shotgun malfunctioned.

You are staggeringly stupid.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9872
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Oh gimme a ****ing break.


Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000


The US murder rate is 5.35 per 100,000.


The world average is 6.2 per 100,000


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate


The murder rate with guns in Canada is 0.61 per 100,000


The murder rate with guns in the USA is 4.62 per 100,000.


The US gun murder rate is 7.5 times that in Canada.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate


You really should think and research before you make any more really idiotic statements.

Ah so I guess Canadas's Gun control measures do work somewhat better than arming everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence.
 
JamesBondo
#9873
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Ah so I guess Canadas's Gun control measures do work somewhat better than arming everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence.

Another worthless post that does not deserve a Yes or a No.

Canada has never been a country that arms "everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence." Nor has the USA.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+4
#9874
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Ah so I guess Canadas's Gun control measures do work somewhat better than arming everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence.

We in Canad don’t have a gun control problem , we have a gang problem . The majority of gun related gun violence in the lower mainland , and all other major cities is gang and drug related . Our politicians do not want to go near that can of worms , that would require bring up the I word ( immigration) and of course that brings out the r word ( racist) . None of our gutless politicos will go there .Much easier to call for gun control. As if making something illegal ever stopped anybody . Shit we can’t even stop people from throwing their garbage out the car window .
 
spilledthebeer
#9875
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Are we , or are we not prosecuting ethnic gang bangers to the fullest extent of the law ?




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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


AND NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


WE ARE NOT PROSECUTING GANG BANGERS to anything even remotely like the full extent of the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Over 80 percent OF ALL CRIMINAL CASES are now plea bargained to save court time and costs because LIE-beals have better things to do with our money than waste it on fighting CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Plea bargaining mandates that major cfrimes are made over into minor crimes and minor crimes are forgotten entirely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral "privacy" laws ensure we DO NOT HEAR how often dangerous thugs are released from prison early in their sentence- FOR "GOOD BEHAVIOUR"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Meaning- they have not been CAUGHT while stabbing any other prisoners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are so very desperate for votes that they are catering to vicious thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider the proposed LIE-beral plans to change the bail system:


Here is an article illustrating the LIE-beral version of justice and social responsibility. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ontari-owe Ombudsman MARIN: New bail rules are political meddling

Published: November 11, 2017. Updated: November 12, 2017 12:36 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

Attorney General Yasir Naqvi has issued new micro-managing and politically correct orders to Ontario’s Crown Attorneys. Henceforth, Crowns will be further restricted in opposing bail in criminal cases. It’s a solution looking for a problem.

Overcrowding and abuse of solitary confinement in the Ontario corrections systems are a wide-spread problem that Premier Kathleen Wynne’s government has closed a blind eye to for the last 14 years.

The problem, and it’s rather a simple one, is that the correctional infrastructure has been sorely neglected. The provincial government hasn’t upgraded the prison system on a wide scale in many years. In Ottawa, for example, a detention centre has been frozen in time since 1971. Prisoners have been found housed in showers for lack of space.

(Gosh- infrastructure NEGLECTED under LIE-beral rule? So what else is new? For decades LIE-berals have faced the yearly budget choice of either SUPPLYING CASH FOR repairs to infrastructure or CASH FOR more gravy for civil service union Hogs- the people who actually elect LIE-berals- in a GROSS CONFLICT of interest and the choice has always been the same- ever more gravy for Hogs while all manner of govt equipment and facilities wear out!)

(AS for the use of solitary confinement- this is just another ho-hum-we don’t care issue for LIE-berals. As is often reported in Cdn media- a significant portion of prisoners have UN-TREATED mental health issues. It is easier and cheaper for LIE-berals to lock these ill ones away in solitary confinement. Jail overcrowding means inmate tempers often flare but it is hard for guards to closely supervise prisoners in such tight quarters to head off fights and of course severe mental health issues also promote friction and fighting- meaning solitary confinement to prevent fights and injuries to untreated crazy people is needed OFTEN. I guess jail and solitary confinement are cheaper solutions to mental health issues than treatment in a psychiatric facility and greedy gravy hungry LIE-berals prefer spending on their own personal comforts rather than on dull necessary stuff like mental health issues and jail crowding!)

Our creative AG announced a new restrictive bail directive telling Crowns to just loosen up and let more accused of crimes out on the streets. Presto – the inmate overcrowding problem gone. A couple of Crown attorneys were at wit’s end and called me about Naqvi’s political meddling.

Every Crown attorney, it has long been held, fulfils a kind of minister of the justice role. They are professionals expected to call the shots on serious criminal offences. The notion of winning or losing is not part of the job.

(LIE-berals have utterly messed up our legal system. It has been 25 years since Statistics Canada first told us that over 80 percent of all criminal court cases are plea bargained- and this is the original LIE-beral mandated solution to over crowded courts and jails. Under LIE-berals- major crimes become minor ones and minor crimes are forgotten entirel;y as criminals make their deals with LIE-beral hug a thug judges under govt orders to CLEAR the backlog of cases- screw justice- just get the case dealt with in some QUICK AND CHEAP WAY!)

(Cops tell us that over 80 percent of ALL crime is drug related- buying or selling, laundering the proceeds, theft by addicts to obtain money to buy drugs, violence between gangs to protect their turf from competitors, the trade in illegal guns and ammunition that gangs need to protect themselves and their product. To make matters worse- dealers have ganged up- recognized that being part of a group is useful- one may lose some autonomy but one gains the protection of the group- against other gangs and against cops- with the gang lying and providing an alibi as needed against possible criminal charges. LIE-berals have responded to this by choosing to see drug addicts and dealers as mis-guided victims and LIE-berals are ignoring the `victims` in the same way they ignore all other costly problems that would cut into their supply of gravy- if the problem were ever to be resolved in any real way!)

(As the number of addicts and shooting victims in need of treatment spirals, the costs also spiral and LIE-berals have responded with ever easier bail terms. Two decades ago a kid in our neighborhood had a job at a local chain store and the kid- along with a second store employee was sent to the basement warehouse for supplies and ran into an armed gang- 3 Black kids with a shotgun. The leader of the gang was ALREADY out on bail for three major crimes: a rape, a previous armed robbery and an attempted murder in a nightclub- the gang banger is committing violent crimes faster than LIE-berals can deal with them!)

(Fortunately our neighbourhood kid was very lucky- the robber who was supposed to be standing guard with the shotgun had put it down and wandered into the nearest trailer to inspect the electronics when our kid showed up. Guard rushed out of the trailer to retrieve the gun and our kid shoved him off the loading dock- with guard hitting his head and spending several weeks in a coma.)

(The gang leader emerged next to investigate the shouting- spotted the other store employee and tried to club him with the bolt cutters he had used to get into the trailer loaded with electronics. The employee got his arm up in time and had his arm shattered- INSTEAD of his head! Our kid knocked gang leader cold with an elbow that shattered the nose of gang leader. The third robber- the youngest one took one look at all the blood and bodies and surrendered quietly.)

(All this mayhem- the shattered arm of the store employee- the smashed nose of the gang leader and the guard in a coma simply because LIE-berals and their Hog allies feel ENTITLED to take so much gravy out of our pockets there is nothing left to manage the legal system and jails! Legal bills, several police investigations, major hospital bills for the guard in a coma, workmans compensation costs for the shattered arm of the other employee- and ALL just to appease LIE-beral lust for gravy instead of protecting the public from gangs! And the rapist/ring leader of the gang NEVER did go to court as he was shot to death for failing to pay his drug debts- so MORE police investigation costs! And Black LIVES Matter reverse racists WONDER why cops believe `carding` of Blacks- AND of anybody else thy suspect- is a useful investigative tool? And LIE-berals are accepting this reverse bigotry for the sake of buying ethnic votes so LIE-berals can cling to power AND GRAVY at any price!)

They-prosecutors- are, according to long-standing jurisprudence, only expected to offer a trial in the public interest and to only seek a finding of guilt if the evidence justifies it. They are appointed by the provincial cabinet by order-in-council in order to provide them with the necessary independence to do their job without political interference. Now, it seems, they are being treated like children we can’t trust.

Crowns are buried in red tape like never before. Their ability to exercise discretion has considerably withered away. Naqvi’s new bail directive is a new attack on their independence.

(Sadly, this latest LIE-beral legal fiddle is just the latest in a LONG LIST! In the 1980`s, LIE-berals changed the way we keep crime statistics. Previously each crime that was committed was listed in an appropriate column- theft, assault, drug dealing and etc...but this was not satisfactory to LIE-berals it seemed probable that the public would soon compare lists of charges against eventual convictions and realize how many crimes LIE-berals were letting disappear with plea bargaining!)

(Under the old system- if you broke into a house that was “breaking and entering”. If you had tools to disarm an alarm- you had “possession of burglar tools”. Find the keys to the family car and load it up with electronics is “theft over $5 grand”. Find a shotgun and load it- “illegal possession of a fire arm”. Hear the cops arrive and fire your newly found shotgun out the window and its “assault with a deadly weapon’, Try to flee in the family van and you get a “reckless driving” charge. Get boxed in and take a punch at a cop and its “resisting arrest”)

(Under the old system- the events listed above would net you seven separate charges and they would be listed that way in 7 separate columns so that anybody interested could see at a glance how many crimes and which type of crimes were committed in the city in a set period of time. Now- thanks to LIE-beral meddling, the 7 crimes are reduced to ONE CRIME SCENE! This seems to make it easier for LIE-berals to HIDE just how many crimes are being forgotten or ignored as thugs move through the LIE-beral version of justice system and major crimes are plea bargained down to minor ones and minor crimes are forgotten entirely! And the amount of crime being committed is ARTIFICIALLY REDUCED!)

(To make matters worse- under the old system you served `consecutive` sentences- commit 3 crimes and get 2 years for one crime, 3 years for a a second and 5 years for a third and you would be looking at 10 years in jail as you worked through each of the sentences. It was LIE-berals who introduced concurrent sentences in which you would serve the 2 years, the 3 years and the five years concurrently- meaning you would be in jail for 5 years- with the other two sentences essentially FORGOTTEN! And it was LIE-berals who then introduced “time off for good behaviour” so your concurrent 5 year term- that used to be 10 years- is now reduced to 3 or even 2 years! It’s a LIE-beral “get out of jail almost free card”! LIE-berals also introduced the concept of “time served” in which dangerous thugs who got caught red handed in some crime were denied bail and had to stay in jail till their trial date- but LIE-beral justice is so slow that it often takes longer to get to a trial than the actual sentence offered by a hug a thug judge- under LIE-beral justice a thug might sit in jail for 3 years only to get a sentence of two years- and LIE-beral hug a thug judges laid awake at night worrying about thug rights! So thugs get `credit` for time served if they are denied bail- meaning you spend one year in jail waiting for the trial but get THREE YEARS CREDIT for time served- all in the name of justice and saving gravy for LIE-berals and union Hog allies!)

(And now jails are so crowded and trials are so backlogged that LIE-beals have decided not to bother with bail- just charge thugs and turn them loose and hope they don’t make too much more trouble! And should we ask if this new LIE-beral bail idea is not just another desperate ploy by LIE-berals struggling to find court space to deal with that mass of illegal immigrants Our idiot Boy Justin has invited here? LIE-berals fired all but two of the immigration judges serving the western half of Canada because of their pro `conservative` view of immigration- in other words the fired judges refused to swallow whatever crap story immigrants fed them and denied entry to more people than LIE-berals considered fair!)

(LIE-berals speak so often of fairness- but seem NOT to understand the word. Why else would they drag their feet in deporting Anthony Dooley? Anthony came from Jamaica- first to United States- where he was quickly arrested and jailed for drug dealing- and then deported. Anthony turned right around and came to Canada- AS A REFUGEE CLAIMANT! Anthony met up with his common law wife Marcia Dooley- also a refugee claimant- both spinning nonsense stories that even LIE-beral judges found hard to swallow! Anthony had two sons and got his ex wife to ship both boys to Toronto. In 2 years Marcia and Anthony managed to beat 9 year old son Randal to death- punched him in the face so hard and so often the autopsy found pieces of his shattered teeth in his stomach!)

(At the time Marcia was arrested for murder- she was also under investigation for welfare fraud and that investigation ended when she was arrested for murder! LIE-berals do NOT want us to know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars govt poverty pimps handed out to a thief and child killer! LIE-berals do not want to answer questions about what their immigration judges were thinking when they refused to immediately deport convicted drug dealer Anthony! LIE-beral legal system has turned into a vast immigrant vote buying, gravy saving activity that benefits ONLY LIE-berals as it HIDES the ugly reality of so called LIE-beral justice! And to add insult to injury we have craven coward leaders handing out govt grants to reverse racist bigots of groups like Black Lives Matter and Idle No More to enable them to push for more false justice! LIE-berals are that desperate for votes so they can cling to power at any price- they are willing to turn our society upside down!)

Unfortunately, the situation makes clear that our AG has no experience in criminal courts. It is ignorance meeting naivety. More concerning is that it will expose the public to greater risk from criminal offenders.

Being released on bail, according to the Criminal Code is, for most offences, the norm. If the Crown opposes the release of the accused, the onus shifts to the Crown to demonstrate the accused is a flight risk, presents a high risk of committing an offence if released or that the seriousness of the offence combined with a strong Crown case would be shocking to the public.

(LIE-beral justice is NO JUSTICE! They cannot rehabilitate hard core criminals, they refuse to punish hard core criminals, and they cannot afford to lock up hard core criminals to protect us because the costs are prohibitive and LIE-berals NEED that gravy to buy votes and cling to power!)

The new bail directive’s objective is jovially described in Naqvi’s press release as reducing pre-trial custody. The Criminal Code dictates how Crowns should make decisions on whether to oppose bail. And a judicial officer, a Justice of the Peace makes the final decision.

But now, Crowns have to contend with platitudinous directives such as “reinforcing that recommendations for conditions of release should be connected to both the circumstances of the accused and the facts of the case, while at the same time, meeting public safety concerns.”

(The “circumstances of the accused” means sympathy for thugs! It means judges MUST swallow any stupid sob story thugs utter in court!)

I can assure you that if someone is released on bail according to Naqvi’s new marching orders and commits a heinous crime, Naqvi will be hiding under his comfy desk, while the Crown who agreed to his release will be strung out to dry, second-guessed and humiliated publicly to no end at a coroner’s inquest or other public inquiry.

But the one who should really have blood on his hands is Naqvi.

(Absolutely right! LIE-berals routinely enjoy second guessing cops who must deal with lunatics without proper equipment! Irt is LIE-berals who refuse to give cops tazers and bean bag shooting weapons they could use to knock down and disarm crazy people instead of having no choice but to pull their pistols and fire when nuts attack! And now LIE-berals will have the chance to crap on prosecutors as well! This is CLASSIC LIE-beral policy- anything that goes wrong is ALWAYS the fault of somebody else! LIE-berals NEVER MAKE GROSS OR SELFISH MISTAKES! Just ask them and see!)
 
spilledthebeer
#9876
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Gun deaths should be zero. If the efforts of people like you to arm the populace leads to more deaths, you are a sort of murderer.


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Perhaps we are looking at LIE-beral "gun control" and LIE-beral "crime prevention" in the wrong light?


PIerre Trudeau told us he wanted to "destroy Cdn Imperialism"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


His idiot son Justin has encouraged debate about the wisdom of destroying so called "white privilege"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Should we assume the soaring gun crime rate is simply LIE-beral policy GONE WRONG??????????????



Should we assume that LIE-berals expected all the gang bangers to SHOOT "PRIVILEGED" WHITE PEOPLE??????????????



And the LIE-beral plan BACKFIRED??????????????????????????
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9877
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Another worthless post that does not deserve a Yes or a No.

Canada has never been a country that arms "everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence." Nor has the USA.

Individuals must be at least 18 years old to get a restricted firearms license. Individuals under 18 years of age can use restricted firearms if they are under the direct supervision of a licensed adult. To get this license, you'll need to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).

Now do you know that in 30 of the US states there is NO law that prohibits any child from owning or handling
a gun!!

NOW You suurely do realize that in the US even some governors and other leaders have suggested arming teachers to combat further school shootings and one governor wants to allow only one door to a school to limit the damage of one armed student!! Of course, that would cause a problem during a fire or even a fire drill.

I'm sorry but I am fed up with illogical and absolutely stupid solutions to the people who want to go the way of the US re gun control. Canada is a far safer country to live in.amd as far individual rights go........Canadians have opted for the right NOT to die from a nut with a gun . So suck it up.
Last edited by bluebyrd35; Sep 9th, 2018 at 07:51 PM..
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9878
Spiitbeer, from what I have abserved you are an avid Liberal hater WE KNOW THIS....so unless you post with an occasional source of your angst from a reasonable source I am not interested in your opinions and will continue to scroll post the small books you fill these pages with
 
JamesBondo
+2
#9879
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Individuals must be at least 18 years old to get a restricted firearms license. Individuals under 18 years of age can use restricted firearms if they are under the direct supervision of a licensed adult. To get this license, you'll need to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).

not much change to see here. My son has been hunting and shooting with nme since he was 10 years old,as I did with my dad. He has his own firearm that he will be allowed to take with him when he moves out, as I did with my dad.
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Now do you know that in 30 of the US states there is NO law that prohibits any child from owning or handling a gun

I agree with this. It is the parent's right and responsibility to manage this issue.

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NOW You suurely do realize that in the US even some governors and other leaders have suggested arming teachers to combat further school shootings and one governor wants to allow only one door to a school to limit the damage of one armed student!! Of course, that would cause a problem during a fire or even a fire drill.

I prefer that they copy the same model as Canadian Universities that have armed security officers that are sworn police officers.
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I'm sorry but I am fed up with illogical and absolutely stupid solutions to the people who want to go the way of the US re gun control

You dont apear to be be properly educated and informed, so I totally understand why you would feel so ignorant and helpless

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Canada is a far safer country to live in.

that has always been true, even before the useless gun laws.
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amd as far individual rights go........Canadians have opted for the right NOT to die from a nut with a gun .

That doesn't make sense coming from a canadian now living in the US.

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So suck it up.

You are so emotional and illogical.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#9880
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Individuals must be at least 18 years old to get a restricted firearms license. Individuals under 18 years of age can use restricted firearms if they are under the direct supervision of a licensed adult. To get this license, you'll need to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).

Now do you know that in 30 of the US states there is NO law that prohibits any child from owning or handling
a gun!!

NOW You suurely do realize that in the US even some governors and other leaders have suggested arming teachers to combat further school shootings and one governor wants to allow only one door to a school to limit the damage of one armed student!! Of course, that would cause a problem during a fire or even a fire drill.

I'm sorry but I am fed up with illogical and absolutely stupid solutions to the people who want to go the way of the US re gun control. Canada is a far safer country to live in.amd as far individual rights go........Canadians have opted for the right NOT to die from a nut with a gun . So suck it up.

So are you saying we don’t have a gang and gun problem ? These gang bangers are not killing people ? There is never collateral damage ?
 
petros
+1
#9881
Ethnic guns? That's racist!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#9882
Yep that's why First Canadians has a right to a PAL waiver, because there is a small percentage that can pass a PAL screening and they have a right to sustenance hunt.
 
Hoid
#9883
Interesting case in Texas where police officer walks into a home they thought was their own and killed the person living there because they thought it was a home invader.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9884
How odd ....Illogical and emotional? .Geez imagine that!! considering I worked 30 years in a busy Emergency Department and never once lost my cool. I have seen things you couldn't even imagine. I have seen up close what you so casually dismiss as "NOT" a problem. To lose someone from an accident of any sort is terrible but to a gun or a bomb is in my opinion criminal, particularly if it is a child.

pgs.......Take up gangs & guns with James Bondo.....Apparently all this can be solved by proper parenting: Unfortunately, there are many Canadian parents who's children use others for target practice from quite an early age.

James I am a CANADIAN living in Quebec, Canada who owns a vacation home in the US. I was born here, brought up here, still living in the same farm house I moved into when I married. I have experienced both countries intimately over the years and Canada is still the best country by a landslide.
 
JamesBondo
#9885
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

How odd ....Illogical and emotional? .Geez imagine that!! considering I worked 30 years in a busy Emergency Department and never once lost my cool. I have seen things you couldn't even imagine. I have seen up close what you so casually dismiss as "NOT" a problem. To lose someone from an accident of any sort is terrible but to a gun or a bomb is in my opinion criminal, particularly if it is a child.

I don't believe you. Based on your past posts on this thread,I believe you are both a liar and a troll. And when you try to post seriously, you are a real light weight.

I am embarrassed for you. You are all over the place witb your rants. Whenever you slow down your thoughts and stay focused on just one point at a time, you tend to get your ass handed to you by people like colpy and tecumsehshoes.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#9886
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

How odd ....Illogical and emotional? .Geez imagine that!! considering I worked 30 years in a busy Emergency Department and never once lost my cool. I have seen things you couldn't even imagine. I have seen up close what you so casually dismiss as "NOT" a problem. To lose someone from an accident of any sort is terrible but to a gun or a bomb is in my opinion criminal, particularly if it is a child.

pgs.......Take up gangs & guns with James Bondo.....Apparently all this can be solved by proper parenting: Unfortunately, there are many Canadian parents who's children use others for target practice from quite an early age.

James I am a CANADIAN living in Quebec, Canada who owns a vacation home in the US. I was born here, brought up here, still living in the same farm house I moved into when I married. I have experienced both countries intimately over the years and Canada is still the best country by a landslide.

30 years in a busy emergency ward , must have been like a mash unit . What maybe 3gunshots in those 30years ? How many maimed bodies from drunken stupidity , domestically and on our highways ? I am sure guns were your worst problem .
 
JamesBondo
+1
#9887
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

30 years in a busy emergency ward , must have been like a mash unit . What maybe 3gunshots in those 30years ? How many maimed bodies from drunken stupidity , domestically and on our highways ? I am sure guns were your worst problem .

Nope. Bombs were her worst problem. It is absolutely rediculous that she has connected bombs to the venison on my family table. Clearly, she doesn't know a damn thing about deer hunting or my family.
 
spilledthebeer
#9888
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Spiitbeer, from what I have abserved you are an avid Liberal hater WE KNOW THIS....so unless you post with an occasional source of your angst from a reasonable source I am not interested in your opinions and will continue to scroll post the small books you fill these pages with




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PIty our poor foolish little bluebyrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She id a good little Soviet byrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She only recognizes posts coming from the Cdn version of Pravda- know locally as Toronto (RED) STAR!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Go ahead birdie- tell me what a racist and bigot I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because that is the ONLY RESPONSE LIE-berals are now capable of since ALL their policies are in disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your LIE-beral dictatorship is being dismantled right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#9889
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Interesting case in Texas where police officer walks into a home they thought was their own and killed the person living there because they thought it was a home invader.


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It is a graphic testimony to how out of control life is in United States that EVERYBODY is in such a tsate of fear that they shoot first and talk much later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suspect that if United States did succeed in banning guns- then there would be a very profitable gun smuggling operation set up in Mexico!!!!!!!!!!


AS we know from Colpy- there was even an illegal gun making business recently shut down in Britain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A gun is just an inert hunk of metal- it is the poisoned ideas of the person who wants to sue that gun that must be changed!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is poisoned LIE-beral policy that is promoting much of the gun violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Excusing criminals in exchange rforv votes as LIE-berals do is a VERY BAD IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article offering sound and timely advice! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Appeasing BLM will backfire.

First posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 07:02 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 07:09 PM EDT

The problem isn’t with Black Lives Matter. The problem is with Mayor John Tory and the majority of city councillors who are either terrified of standing up to its members, or who agree with their tactics. Black militancy is nothing new in Toronto. Before BLM, we had the Black Action Defence Committee.

The strategies such groups employ — don’t play by the rules and dismiss white people who disagree with you as racists — were described almost 50 years ago by American journalist and author Tom Wolfe in his great satirical essay, Radical Chic & Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers.

In it, Wolfe explained how black militants in San Francisco successfully intimidated city hall by, “rolling in with your certified angry militants, your guaranteed frustrated ghetto youth, looking like a bunch of wild men.

“Then you had your test confrontation. If you were outrageous enough, if you could shake up the bureaucrats so bad that their eyes froze into ice balls and their mouths twisted up into smiles of sheer physical panic ... then they knew you were the real goods.”

Sound familiar, Toronto? Indeed, why should BLM change their confrontational tactics, intended to unfairly demonize and de-legitimize the police at every opportunity? The fact is, they’re winning.

BLM got uniformed police officers banned from last Sunday’s pride parade, which the mayor and the majority on council meekly went along with, even allowing pride to keep its $260,000 city grant.

(The ugly reality is that BLM does NOT want justice or equality- they ALREADY have that! What they want is the same thing that LIE-berals want! They want money and power- with NO responsibility or accountability! Who wants to flip burgers or weld lumps of metal together for a steel fabrication company when its so much easier and more pleasant to sit in some air conditioned office telling people about black history and the `struggle` you endured so you could sit in that nice office!)

Now their sights are set on getting the police services board to scrap the widely praised school resource officer program, which has the dual aims of making schools safer and improving relations between police and students.

(And should we ask if it might be good for kids to actually be around a cop in a calm and controlled environment so they get used to seeing and dealing with what a previous generation of black radical bigots called “The Occupying Army”?)

Prior to that, pressure from BLM was a key factor in the province’s decision to hold an inquest into the fatal police shooting of Andrew Loku, after the province’s Special Investigations Unit cleared the police of wrongdoing.

(And oh look at the tap dancing being done by LIE-beral hug a thug judges- exclaiming that the death of Loku was a “homicide” but that nobody is guilty! In this case they are simply referring to the fancy and DELIBERATELY MIS-LEADING Latin title of Homicide- as in a homo-sapien has died. Its splitting hairs and sucking up to BLM bigots to use such provocative language as the Latin HOMICIDE in this case!)

(The TRUTH is being IGNORED HERE! One of the recommendations of the LOKU inquest jury was that cops be given Tazers! And of course Police Services Board has always resisted giving out such weapons because they ALLEGE cops might misuse them! LIE-berals have proven they would rather see crazy black people shot with .40mm pistols than have them taking up space in an expensive insane asylum! LIE-beral lust for more gravy is so strong they are willing to see bodies in the street rather than give cops a sensible alternative to shooting people! SO LIE-berals can be expected to quietly IGNORE the request for Tazers but it’s a given that LIE-berals WILL be all on fire for more sensitivity training for “racist cops” because the “training’ will give LIE-berals the chance to throw money at radical black “experts” in exchange for votes!)

(And who remembers Arnold Minors- the black “expert” hired to train Toronto cops in race relations? Minors is the guy who made famous the phrase “Occupying Army’ to describe Toronto cops- toan audience made up of cops! And shortly thereafter Minors was exposed as a complete fraud! He was Not an experienced senior homicide investigator from Miami- he was just a lowly traffic cop- and not a very good one either- who TALKED a great game that Toronto Silly Hall goofs bought into until Minors background was exposed.)

(Minors was exposed as a complete fraud with NONE of the qualifications he claimed but Toronto Silly Hall let him work out his FULL contract and gave him FULL pay as well, as compensation for his radical political garbage! Minors definitely Mau-Maued the Toronto flak catchers! He DID train our cops regarding the bullshit political climate in Toronto but sadly, cops did NOT learn anything that would moderate their views on black radicals or the LIE-berals who support them!)

(The truth is that if cops were such stone cold killers as BLM alleges, they would have stormed City hall and Queens Park long ago and rid us of a pack of LIARS!)

Tory and the majority on council may think they’ll be able to appease BLM — heck, the city gave them a race relations award — but that’s painfully naive.

BLM isn’t going to back off and similar groups, noting the political successes of BLM, may well choose to adopt their confrontational tactics in making their own demands.

(And the PROOF of that last statement showed up on Parliament Hill Friday as natives got arrested for trying to screw with the LIE-beral Canada Day party!)

And why not? After all, they seem to be working on our politicians.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9890
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

I don't believe you. Based on your past posts on this thread,I believe you are both a liar and a troll. And when you try to post seriously, you are a real light weight.

I am embarrassed for you. You are all over the place witb your rants. Whenever you slow down your thoughts and stay focused on just one point at a time, you tend to get your ass handed to you by people like colpy and tecumsehshoes.

You apparently are unable to distinguish between sense and nonsense. Getting hit in the snout with true disgust at one's morals always brings out the attack mode, so have at it....... Nevertheless what I told you about myself is true and is only a wee glimpse into my reality and your opinion of me is your problem. Mine is that people with destructive aims for humanity are in need of good verbal slap up the side of the head. It is a shame the head is so hard!!
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
+1
#9891
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

30 years in a busy emergency ward , must have been like a mash unit . What maybe 3gunshots in those 30years ? How many maimed bodies from drunken stupidity , domestically and on our highways ? I am sure guns were your worst problem .

Ever seen a fairly young man who got caught in an auger!??? one leg chewed to the knee, one hand chewed to near the wrist and the other foot gone near tto the ankle before he managed to break free. or a 3 year old who fell into a bonfire (he did;t survive) Or the body of a young women who's father took her on a motorbike without a helmet. Her brain deformed her face when it swelled out her nose!!

The worst part was not so much the victims but those who are struck by such terrible grief that broke the heart as the aftermath.

So forgive me if I get more than a little disgusted by those who know nothing of the damage done by simple carelessness or at those who talk about weapons and war with such glibness.
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Twin_Moose
Conservative
#9892
So are you advocating for the ban on Augers, Motorcycles, or bonfires? Or just other tools like guns that humans have control over?
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9893
No of course not!! You do not believe one has control over their grain augers or their motorcycles or of making sure to keep their young child away from a bonfire?????

I will point out ]again[ ]that a gun is meant to maim or kill. Seriously do you honestly believe an auger for grain or a motorcycle or fire are manufactured to kill or main???
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#9894
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

No of course not!! You do not believe one has control over their grain augers or their motorcycles or of making sure to keep their young child away from a bonfire?????
I will point out ]again[ ]that a gun is meant to maim or kill. Seriously do you honestly believe an auger for grain or a motorcycle or fire are manufactured to kill or main???

Nope they are all tools that can do damage to a human body, what do you recommend as a tool to use against a charging bear? I am a farmer as well as an Oilfield worker there are virtually thousands of tools that can kill you, a gun is just one. Each one of these tools you have to keep your head in the game to make sure it doesn't hurt you in any way. Personal story I had a Dozer operator on his first day nervously trying to figure out some of the levers without our knowledge (didn't see him enter the cab) while we were behind it preparing for the day, he hit a lever lowering the ripper before I could get out of the way rammed a bolt from the ripper into my left leg clearing the artery by 2mm, with a 45 minute drive to the hospital a boot full of blood and still alive with my leg I was lucky. You actually might of heard of it I was the first test case for packing a wound with gauze instead of stitch and drain in 1984 by Dr. Rheinhardt in Moosejaw regional Hospital.

All this to say a gun is a tool designed for humans to use, Humans can and do use it to harm other Humans like any other tool. Like a knife was designed to cut, stab and chop, and can be used by Humans to harm other Humans, a gun has a little more range.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#9895
What do you think the first gun was designed to do, kill other humans, or put food on the table for the family?
 
JamesBondo
+1
#9896
I have only used my rifle to feed my family, it has never been used to kill or maim a human. Nor has it been used to threaten or intimidate a human.

I guess my uses for a rifle are 'off label'. Same with farmers, and police officers.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
#9897
What is important is not changing it;s name so as to minimize what it's purpose is. It's purpose is not meant to flip pancakes or to hammer in a nail.

It is a weapon ....particularly if used against a bear!! even if you skin & dress the meat later!! You can't even use it in the skinning of said meat or butchering it!!' Frivolous or stupid arguments do not bode well for judging one's intelligence. The subject is about control of guns, not about changing the name so as to diminish its prupose.

Oh and the first gun was not made to put food on the table or to hunt.

Well, according to the historians, knowing the exact date and place where the first gun was invented is totally a glaze over. But it is believed that, around the year 500 AD, the Chinese were the ones who invented the first gun ever. It acted for ejecting a projectile by using gun powder. This wittingly happened to be the first gun invented in the history of inventions. The Song Dynasty which was a ruling dynasty in China, were the ones who possessed these primitive weapons. The Chinese fire-lance (one of the first gunpowder weapons), was a combination of two components a spear coated with gunpowder used as a flamethrower and a gun. They were widely used by the early 12th century. The earlier historical evidence of the use of these fire-lances show that, the Chinese soldiers used these weapons at the siege of De'an against the Jurchens in the year 1132 BC.
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Twin_Moose
Conservative
#9898
If that is your argument then a knife was invented for the same purpose before gun powder, they even tied knives to the end of poles and called them spears, some were even made 3 feet long so they can outreach the enemy when they fought them. Don't you claim to be a farm girl? Or was it an acreage? And never had a rifle for protection? riiight


Most of the great inventions had roots in or spun off from the military. The ancestors of your microwave put an end to WWII with thousands of deaths to it's credit let's BAN microwaves. Lol
 
JamesBondo
+1
#9899
another useless and worthless history lesson from bluebyrd.

gun powder was invented as an ilixer of eternal life. many many years later, gun powder was used for fireworks. the first rifle wasnt a weapon, the quality of gun powder wasn't good enough to be a weapon. the first 'rifle' was a device for protecting the life of the fireworks operator.
 
bluebyrd35
No Party Affiliation
+1
#9900
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

If that is your argument then a knife was invented for the same purpose before gun powder, they even tied knives to the end of poles and called them spears, some were even made 3 feet long so they can outreach the enemy when they fought them. Don't you claim to be a farm girl? Or was it an acreage? And never had a rifle for protection? riiight


Most of the great inventions had roots in or spun off from the military. The ancestors of your microwave put an end to WWII with thousands of deaths to it's credit let's BAN microwaves. Lol

LOL So when will the banning of swimming pools going to arise. You do realize before the invention of the gun primitve humans hunted and the animals actually had a chance of surviving. There are many ways of hunting that did not involve a gun. As I have pointed out, there is at least of sporting chance of living through a knife attack and one can perhaps outrun one's attacker. One cannot outrun a bullet.

And yes my husband & I bought a dairy farm which was at the time a very poor proposition so I went back to work. I worked days at the hospital and helped with the milking and during the summer bringing in crops. Things improved in farming. I raised chickens, pigs for eggs and meat, I sold the farm about 10 yeras after the death of my husband. I still have a couple of acres of land and the farmhouse plus a lovely bank account That is a very very small thumbnail sketch

There are a few tales of facing down hunters but why bother now, The law has changed somewhat since those days.