More of this will be the best way to help, unfortunately he will only be in jail a couple more months
Montreal man gets 51 months for border gun smuggling
Montreal man gets 51 months for border gun smuggling
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
- Thread starter Colpy
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Enough of the FAKENEWS, lets look at REALITY:
Kennesaw, Georgia Violent Crime Rate Tiny Thanks to This Gun Law
https://concealednation.org/2018/04/kennesaw-georgia-violent-crime-rate-tiny-thanks-to-this-gun-law/
...and for the guy above who has never faced an aggressive bear while unarmed
Geez: STAY OUT OF THE BUSH CITY BOI!!!
Kennesaw, Georgia Violent Crime Rate Tiny Thanks to This Gun Law
https://concealednation.org/2018/04/kennesaw-georgia-violent-crime-rate-tiny-thanks-to-this-gun-law/
...and for the guy above who has never faced an aggressive bear while unarmed
Geez: STAY OUT OF THE BUSH CITY BOI!!!
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Hey- t-bones full of hypocrisy- why dont you talk about the loaded sawed off rifle that the friends of Coulton Boushie dropped on the driveway when Stanley confronted them with his pistol??????????????
And this is exactly why ALL LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LYING about facts will NOT get LIE-berals reelected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nor will LIES earn natives the twisted and poisoned version of justice they seek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instruction to Committee on Bill C-71
Routine Proceedings
June 4th, 2018 / 7:55 p.m.
Liberal
Mark Holland Ajax, ON
What thugs do is to make sure they are able to keep weapons in their car and not have to answer any questions. That is what they are going to do. They are going to put the weapons in the car and drive wherever they go. They know that if they are pulled over by a police officer, all they have to do is list one of a million different places to explain where they are going. That is what this legislation changes.
https://openparliament.ca/debates/2018/6/4/mark-holland-2/
Routine Proceedings
June 4th, 2018 / 7:55 p.m.
Liberal
Mark Holland Ajax, ON
What thugs do is to make sure they are able to keep weapons in their car and not have to answer any questions. That is what they are going to do. They are going to put the weapons in the car and drive wherever they go. They know that if they are pulled over by a police officer, all they have to do is list one of a million different places to explain where they are going. That is what this legislation changes.
https://openparliament.ca/debates/2018/6/4/mark-holland-2/
What lies, you imbecile?
Are you claiming that Stanley didn't claim he had a hangfire, or that Albrecht didn't claim that his shotgun malfunctioned.
You are staggeringly stupid.
Ah so I guess Canadas's Gun control measures do work somewhat better than arming everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence.
Another worthless post that does not deserve a Yes or a No.
Canada has never been a country that arms "everyone under the age of 16 as a preventative measure to gun violence." Nor has the USA.
We in Canad don’t have a gun control problem , we have a gang problem . The majority of gun related gun violence in the lower mainland , and all other major cities is gang and drug related . Our politicians do not want to go near that can of worms , that would require bring up the I word ( immigration) and of course that brings out the r word ( racist) . None of our gutless politicos will go there .Much easier to call for gun control. As if making something illegal ever stopped anybody . Shit we can’t even stop people from throwing their garbage out the car window .
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE NOT PROSECUTING GANG BANGERS to anything even remotely like the full extent of the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over 80 percent OF ALL CRIMINAL CASES are now plea bargained to save court time and costs because LIE-beals have better things to do with our money than waste it on fighting CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plea bargaining mandates that major cfrimes are made over into minor crimes and minor crimes are forgotten entirely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-beral "privacy" laws ensure we DO NOT HEAR how often dangerous thugs are released from prison early in their sentence- FOR "GOOD BEHAVIOUR"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Meaning- they have not been CAUGHT while stabbing any other prisoners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals are so very desperate for votes that they are catering to vicious thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Consider the proposed LIE-beral plans to change the bail system:
Here is an article illustrating the LIE-beral version of justice and social responsibility. With some comments of my own in brackets):
Ontari-owe Ombudsman MARIN: New bail rules are political meddling
Published: November 11, 2017. Updated: November 12, 2017 12:36 AM EST
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
Attorney General Yasir Naqvi has issued new micro-managing and politically correct orders to Ontario’s Crown Attorneys. Henceforth, Crowns will be further restricted in opposing bail in criminal cases. It’s a solution looking for a problem.
Overcrowding and abuse of solitary confinement in the Ontario corrections systems are a wide-spread problem that Premier Kathleen Wynne’s government has closed a blind eye to for the last 14 years.
The problem, and it’s rather a simple one, is that the correctional infrastructure has been sorely neglected. The provincial government hasn’t upgraded the prison system on a wide scale in many years. In Ottawa, for example, a detention centre has been frozen in time since 1971. Prisoners have been found housed in showers for lack of space.
(Gosh- infrastructure NEGLECTED under LIE-beral rule? So what else is new? For decades LIE-berals have faced the yearly budget choice of either SUPPLYING CASH FOR repairs to infrastructure or CASH FOR more gravy for civil service union Hogs- the people who actually elect LIE-berals- in a GROSS CONFLICT of interest and the choice has always been the same- ever more gravy for Hogs while all manner of govt equipment and facilities wear out!)
(AS for the use of solitary confinement- this is just another ho-hum-we don’t care issue for LIE-berals. As is often reported in Cdn media- a significant portion of prisoners have UN-TREATED mental health issues. It is easier and cheaper for LIE-berals to lock these ill ones away in solitary confinement. Jail overcrowding means inmate tempers often flare but it is hard for guards to closely supervise prisoners in such tight quarters to head off fights and of course severe mental health issues also promote friction and fighting- meaning solitary confinement to prevent fights and injuries to untreated crazy people is needed OFTEN. I guess jail and solitary confinement are cheaper solutions to mental health issues than treatment in a psychiatric facility and greedy gravy hungry LIE-berals prefer spending on their own personal comforts rather than on dull necessary stuff like mental health issues and jail crowding!)
Our creative AG announced a new restrictive bail directive telling Crowns to just loosen up and let more accused of crimes out on the streets. Presto – the inmate overcrowding problem gone. A couple of Crown attorneys were at wit’s end and called me about Naqvi’s political meddling.
Every Crown attorney, it has long been held, fulfils a kind of minister of the justice role. They are professionals expected to call the shots on serious criminal offences. The notion of winning or losing is not part of the job.
(LIE-berals have utterly messed up our legal system. It has been 25 years since Statistics Canada first told us that over 80 percent of all criminal court cases are plea bargained- and this is the original LIE-beral mandated solution to over crowded courts and jails. Under LIE-berals- major crimes become minor ones and minor crimes are forgotten entirel;y as criminals make their deals with LIE-beral hug a thug judges under govt orders to CLEAR the backlog of cases- screw justice- just get the case dealt with in some QUICK AND CHEAP WAY!)
(Cops tell us that over 80 percent of ALL crime is drug related- buying or selling, laundering the proceeds, theft by addicts to obtain money to buy drugs, violence between gangs to protect their turf from competitors, the trade in illegal guns and ammunition that gangs need to protect themselves and their product. To make matters worse- dealers have ganged up- recognized that being part of a group is useful- one may lose some autonomy but one gains the protection of the group- against other gangs and against cops- with the gang lying and providing an alibi as needed against possible criminal charges. LIE-berals have responded to this by choosing to see drug addicts and dealers as mis-guided victims and LIE-berals are ignoring the `victims` in the same way they ignore all other costly problems that would cut into their supply of gravy- if the problem were ever to be resolved in any real way!)
(As the number of addicts and shooting victims in need of treatment spirals, the costs also spiral and LIE-berals have responded with ever easier bail terms. Two decades ago a kid in our neighborhood had a job at a local chain store and the kid- along with a second store employee was sent to the basement warehouse for supplies and ran into an armed gang- 3 Black kids with a shotgun. The leader of the gang was ALREADY out on bail for three major crimes: a rape, a previous armed robbery and an attempted murder in a nightclub- the gang banger is committing violent crimes faster than LIE-berals can deal with them!)
(Fortunately our neighbourhood kid was very lucky- the robber who was supposed to be standing guard with the shotgun had put it down and wandered into the nearest trailer to inspect the electronics when our kid showed up. Guard rushed out of the trailer to retrieve the gun and our kid shoved him off the loading dock- with guard hitting his head and spending several weeks in a coma.)
(The gang leader emerged next to investigate the shouting- spotted the other store employee and tried to club him with the bolt cutters he had used to get into the trailer loaded with electronics. The employee got his arm up in time and had his arm shattered- INSTEAD of his head! Our kid knocked gang leader cold with an elbow that shattered the nose of gang leader. The third robber- the youngest one took one look at all the blood and bodies and surrendered quietly.)
(All this mayhem- the shattered arm of the store employee- the smashed nose of the gang leader and the guard in a coma simply because LIE-berals and their Hog allies feel ENTITLED to take so much gravy out of our pockets there is nothing left to manage the legal system and jails! Legal bills, several police investigations, major hospital bills for the guard in a coma, workmans compensation costs for the shattered arm of the other employee- and ALL just to appease LIE-beral lust for gravy instead of protecting the public from gangs! And the rapist/ring leader of the gang NEVER did go to court as he was shot to death for failing to pay his drug debts- so MORE police investigation costs! And Black LIVES Matter reverse racists WONDER why cops believe `carding` of Blacks- AND of anybody else thy suspect- is a useful investigative tool? And LIE-berals are accepting this reverse bigotry for the sake of buying ethnic votes so LIE-berals can cling to power AND GRAVY at any price!)
They-prosecutors- are, according to long-standing jurisprudence, only expected to offer a trial in the public interest and to only seek a finding of guilt if the evidence justifies it. They are appointed by the provincial cabinet by order-in-council in order to provide them with the necessary independence to do their job without political interference. Now, it seems, they are being treated like children we can’t trust.
Crowns are buried in red tape like never before. Their ability to exercise discretion has considerably withered away. Naqvi’s new bail directive is a new attack on their independence.
(Sadly, this latest LIE-beral legal fiddle is just the latest in a LONG LIST! In the 1980`s, LIE-berals changed the way we keep crime statistics. Previously each crime that was committed was listed in an appropriate column- theft, assault, drug dealing and etc...but this was not satisfactory to LIE-berals it seemed probable that the public would soon compare lists of charges against eventual convictions and realize how many crimes LIE-berals were letting disappear with plea bargaining!)
(Under the old system- if you broke into a house that was “breaking and entering”. If you had tools to disarm an alarm- you had “possession of burglar tools”. Find the keys to the family car and load it up with electronics is “theft over $5 grand”. Find a shotgun and load it- “illegal possession of a fire arm”. Hear the cops arrive and fire your newly found shotgun out the window and its “assault with a deadly weapon’, Try to flee in the family van and you get a “reckless driving” charge. Get boxed in and take a punch at a cop and its “resisting arrest”)
(Under the old system- the events listed above would net you seven separate charges and they would be listed that way in 7 separate columns so that anybody interested could see at a glance how many crimes and which type of crimes were committed in the city in a set period of time. Now- thanks to LIE-beral meddling, the 7 crimes are reduced to ONE CRIME SCENE! This seems to make it easier for LIE-berals to HIDE just how many crimes are being forgotten or ignored as thugs move through the LIE-beral version of justice system and major crimes are plea bargained down to minor ones and minor crimes are forgotten entirely! And the amount of crime being committed is ARTIFICIALLY REDUCED!)
(To make matters worse- under the old system you served `consecutive` sentences- commit 3 crimes and get 2 years for one crime, 3 years for a a second and 5 years for a third and you would be looking at 10 years in jail as you worked through each of the sentences. It was LIE-berals who introduced concurrent sentences in which you would serve the 2 years, the 3 years and the five years concurrently- meaning you would be in jail for 5 years- with the other two sentences essentially FORGOTTEN! And it was LIE-berals who then introduced “time off for good behaviour” so your concurrent 5 year term- that used to be 10 years- is now reduced to 3 or even 2 years! It’s a LIE-beral “get out of jail almost free card”! LIE-berals also introduced the concept of “time served” in which dangerous thugs who got caught red handed in some crime were denied bail and had to stay in jail till their trial date- but LIE-beral justice is so slow that it often takes longer to get to a trial than the actual sentence offered by a hug a thug judge- under LIE-beral justice a thug might sit in jail for 3 years only to get a sentence of two years- and LIE-beral hug a thug judges laid awake at night worrying about thug rights! So thugs get `credit` for time served if they are denied bail- meaning you spend one year in jail waiting for the trial but get THREE YEARS CREDIT for time served- all in the name of justice and saving gravy for LIE-berals and union Hog allies!)
(And now jails are so crowded and trials are so backlogged that LIE-beals have decided not to bother with bail- just charge thugs and turn them loose and hope they don’t make too much more trouble! And should we ask if this new LIE-beral bail idea is not just another desperate ploy by LIE-berals struggling to find court space to deal with that mass of illegal immigrants Our idiot Boy Justin has invited here? LIE-berals fired all but two of the immigration judges serving the western half of Canada because of their pro `conservative` view of immigration- in other words the fired judges refused to swallow whatever crap story immigrants fed them and denied entry to more people than LIE-berals considered fair!)
(LIE-berals speak so often of fairness- but seem NOT to understand the word. Why else would they drag their feet in deporting Anthony Dooley? Anthony came from Jamaica- first to United States- where he was quickly arrested and jailed for drug dealing- and then deported. Anthony turned right around and came to Canada- AS A REFUGEE CLAIMANT! Anthony met up with his common law wife Marcia Dooley- also a refugee claimant- both spinning nonsense stories that even LIE-beral judges found hard to swallow! Anthony had two sons and got his ex wife to ship both boys to Toronto. In 2 years Marcia and Anthony managed to beat 9 year old son Randal to death- punched him in the face so hard and so often the autopsy found pieces of his shattered teeth in his stomach!)
(At the time Marcia was arrested for murder- she was also under investigation for welfare fraud and that investigation ended when she was arrested for murder! LIE-berals do NOT want us to know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars govt poverty pimps handed out to a thief and child killer! LIE-berals do not want to answer questions about what their immigration judges were thinking when they refused to immediately deport convicted drug dealer Anthony! LIE-beral legal system has turned into a vast immigrant vote buying, gravy saving activity that benefits ONLY LIE-berals as it HIDES the ugly reality of so called LIE-beral justice! And to add insult to injury we have craven coward leaders handing out govt grants to reverse racist bigots of groups like Black Lives Matter and Idle No More to enable them to push for more false justice! LIE-berals are that desperate for votes so they can cling to power at any price- they are willing to turn our society upside down!)
Unfortunately, the situation makes clear that our AG has no experience in criminal courts. It is ignorance meeting naivety. More concerning is that it will expose the public to greater risk from criminal offenders.
Being released on bail, according to the Criminal Code is, for most offences, the norm. If the Crown opposes the release of the accused, the onus shifts to the Crown to demonstrate the accused is a flight risk, presents a high risk of committing an offence if released or that the seriousness of the offence combined with a strong Crown case would be shocking to the public.
(LIE-beral justice is NO JUSTICE! They cannot rehabilitate hard core criminals, they refuse to punish hard core criminals, and they cannot afford to lock up hard core criminals to protect us because the costs are prohibitive and LIE-berals NEED that gravy to buy votes and cling to power!)
The new bail directive’s objective is jovially described in Naqvi’s press release as reducing pre-trial custody. The Criminal Code dictates how Crowns should make decisions on whether to oppose bail. And a judicial officer, a Justice of the Peace makes the final decision.
But now, Crowns have to contend with platitudinous directives such as “reinforcing that recommendations for conditions of release should be connected to both the circumstances of the accused and the facts of the case, while at the same time, meeting public safety concerns.”
(The “circumstances of the accused” means sympathy for thugs! It means judges MUST swallow any stupid sob story thugs utter in court!)
I can assure you that if someone is released on bail according to Naqvi’s new marching orders and commits a heinous crime, Naqvi will be hiding under his comfy desk, while the Crown who agreed to his release will be strung out to dry, second-guessed and humiliated publicly to no end at a coroner’s inquest or other public inquiry.
But the one who should really have blood on his hands is Naqvi.
(Absolutely right! LIE-berals routinely enjoy second guessing cops who must deal with lunatics without proper equipment! Irt is LIE-berals who refuse to give cops tazers and bean bag shooting weapons they could use to knock down and disarm crazy people instead of having no choice but to pull their pistols and fire when nuts attack! And now LIE-berals will have the chance to crap on prosecutors as well! This is CLASSIC LIE-beral policy- anything that goes wrong is ALWAYS the fault of somebody else! LIE-berals NEVER MAKE GROSS OR SELFISH MISTAKES! Just ask them and see!)
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Perhaps we are looking at LIE-beral "gun control" and LIE-beral "crime prevention" in the wrong light?
PIerre Trudeau told us he wanted to "destroy Cdn Imperialism"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His idiot son Justin has encouraged debate about the wisdom of destroying so called "white privilege"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should we assume the soaring gun crime rate is simply LIE-beral policy GONE WRONG??????????????
Should we assume that LIE-berals expected all the gang bangers to SHOOT "PRIVILEGED" WHITE PEOPLE??????????????
And the LIE-beral plan BACKFIRED??????????????????????????
Individuals must be at least 18 years old to get a restricted firearms license. Individuals under 18 years of age can use restricted firearms if they are under the direct supervision of a licensed adult. To get this license, you'll need to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Now do you know that in 30 of the US states there is NO law that prohibits any child from owning or handling
a gun!!
NOW You suurely do realize that in the US even some governors and other leaders have suggested arming teachers to combat further school shootings and one governor wants to allow only one door to a school to limit the damage of one armed student!! Of course, that would cause a problem during a fire or even a fire drill.
I'm sorry but I am fed up with illogical and absolutely stupid solutions to the people who want to go the way of the US re gun control. Canada is a far safer country to live in.amd as far individual rights go........Canadians have opted for the right NOT to die from a nut with a gun . So suck it up.
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Spiitbeer, from what I have abserved you are an avid Liberal hater WE KNOW THIS....so unless you post with an occasional source of your angst from a reasonable source I am not interested in your opinions and will continue to scroll post the small books you fill these pages with
not much change to see here. My son has been hunting and shooting with nme since he was 10 years old,as I did with my dad. He has his own firearm that he will be allowed to take with him when he moves out, as I did with my dad.
I agree with this. It is the parent's right and responsibility to manage this issue.
I prefer that they copy the same model as Canadian Universities that have armed security officers that are sworn police officers.
You dont apear to be be properly educated and informed, so I totally understand why you would feel so ignorant and helpless
that has always been true, even before the useless gun laws.
That doesn't make sense coming from a canadian now living in the US.
You are so emotional and illogical.
So are you saying we don’t have a gang and gun problem ? These gang bangers are not killing people ? There is never collateral damage ?
