Canada loses 51,600 jobs in August, pushing up unemployment rate

White_Unifier

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Why? How the f-ck would you be able to save for retirement?

Are you serious? If someone had to pay a personal wealth tax on any wealth above one billions dollars not counting business assets, essential assets, and subtracting debt, and maybe even subtracting necessary savings for retirement, I think he'd be more than okay.
 

petros

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Then you're right back to "how the f-ck do you save for retirement?" Do you think you should be excluded?
 

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I actually would support a legal personal wealth cap beyond which the Government of Canada could claim it. I'd start high though, maybe at a billion dollars. They might just invest more in their business, give more to charity, etc. to stay within that maximum, but even those actions could benefit Canada.
You obviously have no real assets or the incentive to acquire them .
 

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You obviously have no real assets or the incentive to acquire them .

Are you telling me that once you subtract your business assets, necessary assets, debt, and a billion dollars of personal accumulated discretionary wealth, you would still have money left over to give to the government?

Damn you're wealthy!
 

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That's why I proposed capping it at a billion dollars and limiting it to personal wealth only and not business wealth. That would allow a billionaire plenty of maneuverability by just investing more in his business so as to increase his business assets so as to reduce his personal wealth. That would actually encourage more investment as a way to avoid taxes.


Other than punishing the wealthy via a success tax, exactly what are you accomplishing?


Basically, you remove anyone from earning more than your stipulated amount from earning any more. Further, you absolutely exclude Canada as a destination where someone like Bill Gates would ever consider relocating to... And with that exclusion of this ultra wealthy demographic, you can say bye-bye to any and all of the philanthropic or charitable contributions they make, let alone the economic impact they have.



Are you telling me that once you subtract your business assets, necessary assets, debt, and a billion dollars of personal accumulated discretionary wealth, you would still have money left over to give to the government?

Damn you're wealthy!


What an over complicated arrangement you propose.... Why not take a 180 degree turn and set up an economic environment that encourages all people to succeed such that you develop a really large population of wealthy persons... Hell, establish a lower tax rate for everyone to encourage more spending - that leads to greater employment - that leads to even more people kicking-in to that tax pool (lower rates remember) and magically all of society benefits
 

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Poor people (as defined by how much money they make) spend something like 170% of their income.

SO minimum wage workers are not socking away money for another day. They are busily spending every penny they earn, and then some.

The only money out there are needs encouragement to get spent is in the hands of people who make more money than they spend on things.

Those are the people who can be encouraged.
 

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A minimum wage job is something you do a year or so until you prove you are a reliable worker, then you look for better work.
 

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A minimum wage job is something you do a year or so until you prove you are a reliable worker, then you look for better work.
If you are a reliable worker you probably will get at least one raise and promotion within a year .
 

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If you are a reliable worker you probably will get at least one raise and promotion within a year .
For 2017-8 the state of Ohio has published a list of businesses who have the most employees on food stamps.

Rank, Company, #of workers/family members

1. WALMART 11,560

2. MCDONALDS 9,927

3. KROGER 5,051

4. BOB EVANS 3,641

5. WENDY’S 3,581

6. DOLLAR GENERAL 3,211

7. GOODWILL 2,843

8. TACO BELL 2,748

9. SPEEDWAY 2,734

10. BURGER KING 2,503

11. STAFFMARK 2,236

12. FAMILY DOLLAR 2,137

13. SUBWAY 2,042

14. DOLLAR TREE STORE 1,983

15. ADECCO 1,959

16. ARBY’S 1,649

17. HOME DEPOT 1,575

18. CLEVELAND CLINIC 1,546

19. AMAZON 1,430

20. TARGET 1,397

21. YMCA 1,347

22. LOWE’S 1,288

23. UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS 1,275

24. STEAK N SHAKE 1,273

25. ARAMARK FOOD, FACIL, UNIFORM 1,260

25. GIANT EAGLE 1,260

27. MEIJER 1,249

28. WALGREEN’S 1,222

29. MACS CONVENIENCE STORES 1,216

30. PIZZA HUT 1,202

31. CVS STORES 1,167

32. FEDEX CORP 1,135

33. KOHLS 1,133

34. CALLOS NURSE & PERSONNEL SVC 1,121

35. INTERIM HEALTH CARE 1,090

36. KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN 1,081

37. JC PENNEY 1,070

38. MANCAN 1,025

39. I FORCE 1,020

40. OHIO HEALTH CORP 1,013

41. CHIPOTLE 973

42. UNITED PARCEL SERVICE 971

43. CRACKER BARREL 961

44. INDEPENDENT VOLUNTEER HOURS 952

45. APPLEBEE’S 936

46. PANERA BREAD 925

47. MINUTE MEN 897

48. FRISCHS 894

49. CIRCLE K STORES 886

50. “A V I FOOD SYSTEMS ” 850

the theory is that families that qualify for food stamps also qualify for every other state and federal income support (welfare)- its is informally called the "Walmart Tax".

You can't have a minimum wage debate without talking about poverty in a larger sense.

Will increasing min wage a couple of bucks an hour actually get people off welfare?

Probably not.

Does having people in poverty cost us any money?

Yes, it does. In many ways.
 

pgs

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For 2017-8 the state of Ohio has published a list of businesses who have the most employees on food stamps.

Rank, Company, #of workers/family members

1. WALMART 11,560

2. MCDONALDS 9,927

3. KROGER 5,051

4. BOB EVANS 3,641

5. WENDY’S 3,581

6. DOLLAR GENERAL 3,211

7. GOODWILL 2,843

8. TACO BELL 2,748

9. SPEEDWAY 2,734

10. BURGER KING 2,503

11. STAFFMARK 2,236

12. FAMILY DOLLAR 2,137

13. SUBWAY 2,042

14. DOLLAR TREE STORE 1,983

15. ADECCO 1,959

16. ARBY’S 1,649

17. HOME DEPOT 1,575

18. CLEVELAND CLINIC 1,546

19. AMAZON 1,430

20. TARGET 1,397

21. YMCA 1,347

22. LOWE’S 1,288

23. UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS 1,275

24. STEAK N SHAKE 1,273

25. ARAMARK FOOD, FACIL, UNIFORM 1,260

25. GIANT EAGLE 1,260

27. MEIJER 1,249

28. WALGREEN’S 1,222

29. MACS CONVENIENCE STORES 1,216

30. PIZZA HUT 1,202

31. CVS STORES 1,167

32. FEDEX CORP 1,135

33. KOHLS 1,133

34. CALLOS NURSE & PERSONNEL SVC 1,121

35. INTERIM HEALTH CARE 1,090

36. KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN 1,081

37. JC PENNEY 1,070

38. MANCAN 1,025

39. I FORCE 1,020

40. OHIO HEALTH CORP 1,013

41. CHIPOTLE 973

42. UNITED PARCEL SERVICE 971

43. CRACKER BARREL 961

44. INDEPENDENT VOLUNTEER HOURS 952

45. APPLEBEE’S 936

46. PANERA BREAD 925

47. MINUTE MEN 897

48. FRISCHS 894

49. CIRCLE K STORES 886

50. “A V I FOOD SYSTEMS ” 850

the theory is that families that qualify for food stamps also qualify for every other state and federal income support (welfare)- its is informally called the "Walmart Tax".

You can't have a minimum wage debate without talking about poverty in a larger sense.

Will increasing min wage a couple of bucks an hour actually get people off welfare?

Probably not.

Does having people in poverty cost us any money?

Yes, it does. In many ways.
By the way we live in Canada . If you don’t like Walmart don’t shop there , if there are enough like minded people Walmart will go away .