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You take the Qur'an too literally. do we not very much live in a very different earth today than we did 1200 years ago? Wasn't the 19th century a century of worldwide upheavals in science, philosophy, politics, economy, etc. etc. etc. How was that not the end of the old world and the start of a new that we are still learning to live in?

So you want that I should take the Quran not too literally .. how 1/2 literally? or 1/4 literally? Should I believe in part of the Quran and leave the rest?

Moreover, you admire the 19th century, and now you are in the 21st century .. will people in the 28th century laugh at and ridicule you?

What has the truth to do with centuries? Weren't Noah's teachings like those of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed?

Therefore, if you are a materialist and the material advances allure to you .. of course, it is said the Dajjal or the Imposter will deceive most people because of his achievements (the inventions like the train, the mobile phone, the ressussitation of the recently dying [like the electric shock] bringing them to life again [some of them of course] will certainly deceive the materialist and atheist who are liable to blaspheme against the truth and against God's religion.

In addition, the wealth of the disbeliever allures to you.. most atheists, the enthusiastic and idolaters are wealthy and authorized with power and position .. this is to test you: will you follow the alluring of the world or you will stick to the truth and belief.

Quran 2: 85, which means:
(85...Do you then believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in part?
What should be the reward of those among you who do this, except disgrace in this life of the World, and on the Day of Judgment shall they be driven to the most severe punishment; for God is never unaware of all the [evil work] you [Jews] are doing.


86. These [Jews just mentioned] are they who have bought the life of this World instead of the Next Life.
Consequently, their retribution will not be commuted for them [on Judgment Day], neither will they be helped.
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More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_85
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Does 1/4 of the earth include all the inhabitable parts when you look at a modern map of the world?
Re:6:7-8:
And when he had opened the fourth seal,
I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,
Come and see.
And I looked,
and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth,
to kill with sword,
and with hunger,
and with death,
and with the beasts of the earth.

Jer:25:17-18:
Then took I the cup at the LORD's hand,
and made all the nations to drink,
unto whom the LORD had sent me:
To wit,
Jerusalem,
and the cities of Judah,
and the kings thereof,
and the princes thereof,
to make them a desolation,
an astonishment,
an hissing,
and a curse;
as it is this day;

Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.

Jer:25:31-33:
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth;
for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations,
he will plead with all flesh;
he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
saith the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
 

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Both the whale and the fish it eats know full well that there is Creator God. What else could compell the one to eat the other and the intended meal to resist being consumned? I like to think that I am a creation of the universe. Would that not be a good candidate for the God? If you examine the atributes of God and The Universe you will discover a near complete match. Do you deny that you, a certain creation, have been and continue you be a product of creation? It is a grave mistake to think religion is bullshjt. Many of the offered difinitions of the word religion attempt to explain the bond between the individual and the universe, that is what is the foundation of religion and not some blathering idiot damning you to hell for imagined transgressions of imposed rules fabricated by power hungry scumbags like the popes. Ones religion is ones bond to the Creation creator.
Ligare, to bond.
 
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Every creature carries out its function, and knows what to do: wild beasts are set on disbelievers: atheists and idolaters.
Every creature knows God its Creator; even man knows, but the disbeliever is haughty.

Quran 36: 77, which means:
(Does not man [: the associater or idolater] see that We created him from scanty [seminal] fluid, and that he has become a manifest opponent?)

More explanation:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/36.htm#a36_77
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Both the whale and the fish it eats know full well that there is Creator God. What else could compell the one to eat the other and the intended meal to resist being consumned? I like to think that I am a creation of the universe. Would that not be a good candidate for the God? If you examine the atributes of God and The Universe you will discover a near complete match. Do you deny that you, a certain creation, have been and continue you be a product of creation? It is a grave mistake to think religion is bullshjt. Many of the offered difinitions of the word religion attempt to explain the bond between the individual and the universe, that is what is the foundation of religion and not some blathering idiot damning you to hell for imagined transgressions of imposed rules fabricated by power hungry scumbags like the popes. Ones religion is ones bond to the Creation creator.
Ligare, to bond.
The Universe created itself. Humans are a part of the Universe. But we race through the Universe on what can be considered a proton circling a nucleus (the sun). We are the Who that Horton Hears. I would be very surprised if the Universe is even aware of our existence. We owe our life force to the Earth as we are but a spec, an atom, of that greater living organism.
 

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This is not logical and non-sense; how can you assert this, and have convinced yourself with it!!?
There is nothing that is separate from the Universe. It is infinite and eternal. If there is a god it is the Universe. It has no beginning and no end - the very definition of infinite. There is no god that is separate from the rest of creation. Thus the Universe created itself.

The Quran is based on the old testament. The old testament is based on the Epic of Gilgamesh from Sumeria. It was based on even older texts. You really have no idea about the history of these books. They were never meant to be taken literally. Your rantings are those of a spiritual infant.
 

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If there is a god it is the Universe.

Is the universe wise? Has the universe purpose? Has the universe a plan .. logical and rational according to which it works? If no god and it is merely the universe, why is it systematic and orderly? Why does it keep existing: has the universe a will and decision?

Your words of course are only the assertion and what you only imagine .. and it is your Misguidance and Error obviously.


The Quran is based on the old testament.

How can the Quran be based on the Old Testament, while the Old Testament was in Hebrew and the Quran in Arabic and Prophet Mohammed was Arabian? In addition, Prophet Mohammed was illiterate: he did not know the reading and writing of Arabic even.
Moreover, the Quran agrees with the principles of the Old Testament, but it differs from the Old Testament in many statements .. so had it been derived from the Old Testament as you allege, it should be identical with the Old Testament.
In addition, the Quran came to correct the mistakes and distortion that afflicted the Old Testament by the hand of people by the passage of time.

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#A_Call_from_God_to_the_People_of_the_Scripture_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#A_Call_from_God_to_the_People_of_the_Scripture_
 

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The Universe created itself. Humans are a part of the Universe. But we race through the Universe on what can be considered a proton circling a nucleus (the sun). We are the Who that Horton Hears. I would be very surprised if the Universe is even aware of our existence. We owe our life force to the Earth as we are but a spec, an atom, of that greater living organism.



The one/universe is aware of every particle it contains. Cohesion, nothing moves unless everything moves. A burp here registers universaly, a rabbit shjts in the bush, a mountain on Pluto collapses, a smile on some womans face and the Empire collapses, a bee farts in China the crops in Argentina fail. The wind cometh. DB chapter 13, verse 13, good luck.
 

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The one/universe is aware of every particle it contains. Cohesion, nothing moves unless everything moves. A burp here registers universaly, a rabbit shjts in the bush, a mountain on Pluto collapses, a smile on some womans face and the Empire collapses, a bee farts in China the crops in Argentina fail. The wind cometh. DB chapter 13, verse 13, good luck.

If you are so smart about imagining all such trivial and important events in the universe, why don't you have the insight to recognize God Almighty your Creator, who will deal with you and with everyone else in His creation!?

So this is the Misguidance .. this is the extreme Error, when you see all marvels of God's might, and in spite you take it in jest, and don't think about your inevitable destiny in the Next Life.
 
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Therefore, now this is the picture in the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico .. which will falsify those who allege the water of the Ocean and the Gulf has become colder ..etc.
 
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We see here two important tropical storms pushing west and northwest:

Florence which is about to become a hurricane .. and it is somewhat faraway.
Gordon which is near and may become a hurricane? The Louisiana governor declared the state of emergency.

For this Gordon: it gives a lesson about the Unknown future.. the NHC said at the beginning it is very trivial and will disappear after giving heavy rain .. while now it has changed its course .. if it stays longer on the Gulf water, it may become stronger.
 

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I think the development of these two tropical storms will be discovered at 3-4 pm EDT when the water of the Ocean and the Gulf be at high temperature. God is the All-Knowing.
 
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If you are so smart about imagining all such trivial and important events in the universe, why don't you have the insight to recognize God Almighty your Creator, who will deal with you and with everyone else in His creation!?

So this is the Misguidance .. this is the extreme Error, when you see all marvels of God's might, and in spite you take it in jest, and don't think about your inevitable destiny in the Next Life.
Your God has not shared his sence of humour with you, this is an precurser to oblivion. I,m not misquided you stupid barbarian, you are a misinformed sandblackperson buurnt beyond use!