Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Bar Sinister

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"And just how many people have been murdered with vans compared to the number murdered by guns?"


Well, quite a few have been murdered with vans..........absolutely none have been murdered by guns.


That little Freudian slip reveals a lot about your mindset, btw.




Sorry I don't understand posts that make no sense. Try teaching English to someone who needs it; like yourself perhaps.
 

spilledthebeer

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I never miss the news. But what is your point, that we should ban vans? And just how many people have been murdered with vans compared to the number murdered by guns?


Oh dont worry about James Bondo!!!!!!!!


He is still sulking because I exposed the vile attempt by LIE-berals and their CBC media pals to use FALSE versions of "fair use" policy in a biased and essentially illegal effort to silence critics of failed LIE-beral policy!!!!!


Bondo does not like it that I quoted a law professor who made comments for a Toronto Sun article that illustrates very clearly how bigoted and deceitful CBC has become about supporting LIE-berals and suppressing all other parties!

Consider:


Here is an older article illustrating civil service union Hog greed and just how much support they are prepared to give to LIE-berals in exchange for gravy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hubert Lacroix, the president of the CBC, recently placed the future of the Canada’s national public broadcaster on the electoral map with comments aimed at sparking a renewed debate on future funding models. Lacroix disputed claims that low ratings are to blame for the CBC’s financial struggles, instead pointing to the need to consider alternative fee schemes, including new levies on Internet providers or supplementary charges on television purchases.

(So greedy CBC Hogs want to pick the pockets of other businesses in order to salvage their own suddenly shaky place on the LIE-beral gravy train! Why should internet providers be made to pay because their viewers and users have chosen to TURN OFF CBC tv and radio? And considering how widely and rapidly the CBC article mocking the LIE-beral MyDemocracy website as “a box of doughnuts” circulated- it is entirely CLEAR that Cdns will listen to CBC IF it ever finds anything else relevant to say! And that is the trouble- CBC is so busy spouting LIE-beral propaganda that it as NOTHING REAL to say!)

While disagreement over CBC funding is as old as the broadcaster itself, the more uncomfortable discussion for the CBC is its coverage of the 2015 election campaign — particularly its approach to national debates and political party advertising — which raises troubling questions about its relevance in the current media environment.

(Meaning the 2015 federal election that brought Our idiot Boy Justin to power- which featured regular media efforts to smear Conservatives and aid Our idiot Boy and his moronic minons!)

Most would agree that the CBC features an excellent group of reporters and boasts insightful analysts for its panel discussions. However, rather than working to make itself an invaluable resource for the election, the CBC has been unnecessarily restrictive in its broadcasting choices and in the use of its content.

The problem is obvious- CBC DOES NOT WANT informed voters- it wants LIE-beral voters! It jumped on the MyDemocracy website as a one off chance to temporarily show its faux impartiality- about a subject that other media was so scornful of that CBC felt compelled to jump on the band wagon in an effort to cover its own ass!)

The most puzzling decision has been its refusal to broadcast debates hosted by other organizations. The CBC may be disappointed with the debate approach adopted by the political parties in this campaign, but that does not change the sense that if the national public broadcaster does not air programs in the national public interest, it calls into question the very need for a public broadcaster. Indeed, the CBC seems to have cut its nose off to spite its face by doing its best to prove its critics right.

(CBC is being typically Hoggish in refusing to accept debate programing that it did not produce and does not approve of because it does not contain LIE-beral bias! LIE-berals consider suitable debate to be a series of easy questions lobbed gently at them so they can knock it out of the park! Real debate with actually facts is something LIE-berals increasingly SHUN! CBC recognizes- as all Hogs do- that LIE-beral victory- meaning MORE GRAVY- is also a win for CBC- thus CBC DOES NOT WANT any critical examination of LIE-beral policy- for fear of discovering the ROT at its heart!)

The CBC’s odd coverage choices are not limited to the missing debates. Its use of video clips from the debates has also been unnecessarily restrictive. For example, before analyzing the recent Munk debates on the “At Issue” panel, host Peter Mansbridge warned viewers that “we are limited with the excerpts with the amount we are allowed to show.” A similar warning preceded the discussion at other debates.

Yet the reality is that there was no need to be restrictive in the use of video clips. Canadian copyright law permits the use of copyrighted works without permission as part of the fair dealing clause. News reporting is one of the enumerated purposes and even expanded clips would easily qualify under a fair dealing analysis.

(So CBC lied about its policy of deliberately limiting public debate!)

(HEY THERE JAMES BONDO- I DO HOPE YOU HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD about using news clips and such AS THIS DOES MAKE YOU LOOK A FOOL!!!!! And it works for print media as well so long as the real author is given full credit as I always DO! And there is a further issue I am careful with- and that is NOT to put words into the mouth of another writer- it is for this reason that I always make it known that my comments are in brackets when I add words to an article!)

All news organizations are free to use as much of the video from debates as necessary to highlight key moments and positions of each leader. To suggest that the law creates significant limits on the ability to show debate clips is inaccurate.

In fact, the CBC’s misreading of the law is not limited to the use of clips within its news broadcasts.

Just prior to the election call, it asked YouTube and Facebook to remove a Conservative campaign advertisement that used clips from a CBC interview with Liberal leader Justin Trudeau. To support its takedown claim, the CBC argued that “no one – no individual candidate or political party, and no government, corporation or NGO – may re-use our creative and copyrighted property without our permission. This includes our brands, our talent and our content.”

That too is wrong.

(OH? MORE CBC/LIE-beral censorship and deliberate mis-representation of law and facts? And it relates to CBC being wrong about its crap on a paying site! Copyright law covering political comment on a FREE/NON profit site like this is even LOOSER! You have made yourself look foolish as usual!)

The law features important limitations on the rights of all copyright holders and all media organizations regularly rely on them in their reporting. The limits of copyright extend to campaign commercials and there is little that the CBC- or anyone else- can do about it.

With its rejection of the national debates, its limited use of debate clips and its attempts to limit re-use of its broadcast content, Canada’s national public broadcaster has marginalized itself during the election campaign at the very time that it could be demonstrating its relevance to the national political coverage.

(Worse- CBC has been caught deliberately trying to stack voter choice! Just as Our idiot Boy is trying to take over and paralyze our parliament with his idiot electoral reform!)

Michael Geist holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law.

(Geist has done us a favour by illustrating the ugly bias that CBC is trying to hide!)
 

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Oh dont worry about James Bondo!!!!!!!!


He is still sulking because I exposed the vile attempt by LIE-berals and their CBC media pals to use FALSE versions of "fair use" policy in a biased and essentially illegal effort to silence critics of failed LIE-beral policy!!!!!


Bondo does not like it that I quoted a law professor who made comments for a Toronto Sun article that illustrates very clearly how bigoted and deceitful CBC has become about supporting LIE-berals and suppressing all other parties!

Consider:


Here is an older article illustrating civil service union Hog greed and just how much support they are prepared to give to LIE-berals in exchange for gravy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hubert Lacroix, the president of the CBC, recently placed the future of the Canada’s national public broadcaster on the electoral map with comments aimed at sparking a renewed debate on future funding models. Lacroix disputed claims that low ratings are to blame for the CBC’s financial struggles, instead pointing to the need to consider alternative fee schemes, including new levies on Internet providers or supplementary charges on television purchases.

(So greedy CBC Hogs want to pick the pockets of other businesses in order to salvage their own suddenly shaky place on the LIE-beral gravy train! Why should internet providers be made to pay because their viewers and users have chosen to TURN OFF CBC tv and radio? And considering how widely and rapidly the CBC article mocking the LIE-beral MyDemocracy website as “a box of doughnuts” circulated- it is entirely CLEAR that Cdns will listen to CBC IF it ever finds anything else relevant to say! And that is the trouble- CBC is so busy spouting LIE-beral propaganda that it as NOTHING REAL to say!)

While disagreement over CBC funding is as old as the broadcaster itself, the more uncomfortable discussion for the CBC is its coverage of the 2015 election campaign — particularly its approach to national debates and political party advertising — which raises troubling questions about its relevance in the current media environment.

(Meaning the 2015 federal election that brought Our idiot Boy Justin to power- which featured regular media efforts to smear Conservatives and aid Our idiot Boy and his moronic minons!)

Most would agree that the CBC features an excellent group of reporters and boasts insightful analysts for its panel discussions. However, rather than working to make itself an invaluable resource for the election, the CBC has been unnecessarily restrictive in its broadcasting choices and in the use of its content.

The problem is obvious- CBC DOES NOT WANT informed voters- it wants LIE-beral voters! It jumped on the MyDemocracy website as a one off chance to temporarily show its faux impartiality- about a subject that other media was so scornful of that CBC felt compelled to jump on the band wagon in an effort to cover its own ass!)

The most puzzling decision has been its refusal to broadcast debates hosted by other organizations. The CBC may be disappointed with the debate approach adopted by the political parties in this campaign, but that does not change the sense that if the national public broadcaster does not air programs in the national public interest, it calls into question the very need for a public broadcaster. Indeed, the CBC seems to have cut its nose off to spite its face by doing its best to prove its critics right.

(CBC is being typically Hoggish in refusing to accept debate programing that it did not produce and does not approve of because it does not contain LIE-beral bias! LIE-berals consider suitable debate to be a series of easy questions lobbed gently at them so they can knock it out of the park! Real debate with actually facts is something LIE-berals increasingly SHUN! CBC recognizes- as all Hogs do- that LIE-beral victory- meaning MORE GRAVY- is also a win for CBC- thus CBC DOES NOT WANT any critical examination of LIE-beral policy- for fear of discovering the ROT at its heart!)

The CBC’s odd coverage choices are not limited to the missing debates. Its use of video clips from the debates has also been unnecessarily restrictive. For example, before analyzing the recent Munk debates on the “At Issue” panel, host Peter Mansbridge warned viewers that “we are limited with the excerpts with the amount we are allowed to show.” A similar warning preceded the discussion at other debates.

Yet the reality is that there was no need to be restrictive in the use of video clips. Canadian copyright law permits the use of copyrighted works without permission as part of the fair dealing clause. News reporting is one of the enumerated purposes and even expanded clips would easily qualify under a fair dealing analysis.

(So CBC lied about its policy of deliberately limiting public debate!)

(HEY THERE JAMES BONDO- I DO HOPE YOU HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD about using news clips and such AS THIS DOES MAKE YOU LOOK A FOOL!!!!! And it works for print media as well so long as the real author is given full credit as I always DO! And there is a further issue I am careful with- and that is NOT to put words into the mouth of another writer- it is for this reason that I always make it known that my comments are in brackets when I add words to an article!)

All news organizations are free to use as much of the video from debates as necessary to highlight key moments and positions of each leader. To suggest that the law creates significant limits on the ability to show debate clips is inaccurate.

In fact, the CBC’s misreading of the law is not limited to the use of clips within its news broadcasts.

Just prior to the election call, it asked YouTube and Facebook to remove a Conservative campaign advertisement that used clips from a CBC interview with Liberal leader Justin Trudeau. To support its takedown claim, the CBC argued that “no one – no individual candidate or political party, and no government, corporation or NGO – may re-use our creative and copyrighted property without our permission. This includes our brands, our talent and our content.”

That too is wrong.

(OH? MORE CBC/LIE-beral censorship and deliberate mis-representation of law and facts? And it relates to CBC being wrong about its crap on a paying site! Copyright law covering political comment on a FREE/NON profit site like this is even LOOSER! You have made yourself look foolish as usual!)

The law features important limitations on the rights of all copyright holders and all media organizations regularly rely on them in their reporting. The limits of copyright extend to campaign commercials and there is little that the CBC- or anyone else- can do about it.

With its rejection of the national debates, its limited use of debate clips and its attempts to limit re-use of its broadcast content, Canada’s national public broadcaster has marginalized itself during the election campaign at the very time that it could be demonstrating its relevance to the national political coverage.

(Worse- CBC has been caught deliberately trying to stack voter choice! Just as Our idiot Boy is trying to take over and paralyze our parliament with his idiot electoral reform!)

Michael Geist holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law.

(Geist has done us a favour by illustrating the ugly bias that CBC is trying to hide!)

can you rephrase that?
 

spilledthebeer

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can you rephrase that?


Sure: LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY MIS-USING A FAKE AND FALSE INTERPRETATION OF FAIR USE POLICY WITH REGARD TO POLITICAL COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-BERALS ARE USING THIS FALSE VERSION OF LAW IN ORDER TO CENSOR VIEW THEY DO NOT LIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST AS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND YOU GOT CAUGHT OUT TRYING TO INTIMIDATE USING YOUR FALSE LEGAL THREATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poor stupid LIE-berals have run out of stretch goals to pretend they are reaching for and they are exposed has hopeless incompetent and quite bigoted "leaders"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All they have left to defend their position with is misrepresentation and censorship and it is not nearly good enough to win Our idiot Boy another majority govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that is what all the screaming is about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The gravy train is getting near to the station and LOT OF LIE-berals are going to be put off the train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JamesBondo

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Sure: LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY MIS-USING A FAKE AND FALSE INTERPRETATION OF FAIR USE POLICY WITH REGARD TO POLITICAL COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-BERALS ARE USING THIS FALSE VERSION OF LAW IN ORDER TO CENSOR VIEW THEY DO NOT LIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST AS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND YOU GOT CAUGHT OUT TRYING TO INTIMIDATE USING YOUR FALSE LEGAL THREATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poor stupid LIE-berals have run out of stretch goals to pretend they are reaching for and they are exposed has hopeless incompetent and quite bigoted "leaders"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All they have left to defend their position with is misrepresentation and censorship and it is not nearly good enough to win Our idiot Boy another majority govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that is what all the screaming is about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The gravy train is getting near to the station and LOT OF LIE-berals are going to be put off the train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry, somewhere near the beginning of you post I decided to watch grass grow and I missed the rest of your rant. Can you rephrase it one more time?
 

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They have a lower rate of all types of violent crime, there. ... guns, stabbings, disembowelments, assaults, ladders ...




Brits actually have a surprisingly HIGH rate of crime thanks to LIE-beral mismanagement of pretty much everything!!!!!!


And our LIE-beral loving media has NO INTENTION of reporting the truth about LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an amusing little article explaining in detail why there are so many LIE-beral lovers in the media these days! And maybe it explains some things about LIE-berals as well? With some comments of my own in brackets):

Journalists’ brains below average due to alcohol and caffeine: Study

POSTMEDIA NETWORK. First posted: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:43 AM EDT | Updated: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:19 PM EDT

Duh, journalists’ brains may no work too good.

According to a study released Thursday by neuroscientist Dr. Tara Swart in association with the London Press Club, the highest functions of the human brain operate at a lower level in journalists than the average population.

Her research titled “Study Into The Mental Resilience of Journalists,” blames journalists’ cognitive shortcomings on dehydration caused by excessive alcohol consumption along with poor diet, including higher levels of sugar and caffeine.

Less than 5% of journalists drink enough — or any — water while 41% drank more than 18 alcoholic drinks per week.

The study measured “executive functioning” which, as Swart writes in her report, is “the ability of the brain to regulate emotions, suppress bias, switch between tasks, solve complex problems and think flexibly and creatively.”

(In truth neither news media nor LIE-berals wish to perform many of those tasks- if they did, then they would feel bad until they altered their failing political policies. The list of failed LIE-beral ideas- that media talking heads so often defend- is so comprehensive that getting rid of them all would result in the disappearance of the LIE-beral party-and would also eliminate a huge swath of suddenly speechless media employees!)

(LIE-berals and reporters enjoy their emotions- consider the thrill of reporting on Maryam Monseff castigating Conservatives who dare to call for an honest referendum on the disgraced LIE-beral electoral reform proposal.

Or consider the political chaos that would ensue if LIE-berals had no biases to work with? Who will LIE-berals bribe to love them and vote for them as civil service Hogs do if LIE-berals are forced to treat us all equally?

And who will buy a newspaper that has nothing but sports and horoscopes in it?

And what task vis there more important than for LIE-berals to focus on clinging to power- with the self appointed poobahs of news media explaining to us why LIE-beral greed is good for us? What need do LIE-berals and media have for switching and refocusing away from their prime task?

As fo solving complex problems, LIE-berals are far to busy CREATING such problems-such as how to avoid admitting that giving in to Muslim civil rights blackmail in exchange for LIE-beral votes might be a bad idea in the long run?

But LIE-berals ARE thinking in a creative and flexible way! How else to explain their subtle baiting of Yankees over national security issues, Muslim terror, softwood lumber sales, the production of dairy products etc? With LIE-berals making special efforts to appear as the victims instead of as the instigators- with news media aiding and abetting! It takes perseverance and creativity to piss on others and convince them its raining!)

She notes that some of the deficiencies may be a result of a high-pressure work environment that doesn’t allow time for mindfulness.

(That is certainly the problem with LIE-berals- so many lies- so little time! And media types are too busy conjuring more LIE-beral propaganda to be bothered speculating on how valid it is?)

However, she found that journalists actually manage pressure better than many other fast-paced professions, like bankers and sales executives, because they feel a higher sense of purpose related to their work.

(Yeah, reworking the world into an image you personally approve of and expect to profit from is exalted and exciting work- too bad the LIE-beral vision is WRONG! And news media might have noticed that if they had less alcohol in their systems?)
 

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Stabbing in Brit Land are pretty much the same as here.

Where Canada shines is gun crime.

We are pulling away from the civilized world and headed towards 'Murica numbers.
 

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Stabbing in Brit Land are pretty much the same as here.

Where Canada shines is gun crime.

We are pulling away from the civilized world and headed towards 'Murica numbers.


Oh gimme a ****ing break.


Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000


The US murder rate is 5.35 per 100,000.


The world average is 6.2 per 100,000


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


The murder rate with guns in Canada is 0.61 per 100,000


The murder rate with guns in the USA is 4.62 per 100,000.


The US gun murder rate is 7.5 times that in Canada.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


You really should think and research before you make any more really idiotic statements.
 

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Oh gimme a ****ing break.


Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000


The US murder rate is 5.35 per 100,000.


The world average is 6.2 per 100,000


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


The murder rate with guns in Canada is 0.61 per 100,000


The murder rate with guns in the USA is 4.62 per 100,000.


The US gun murder rate is 7.5 times that in Canada.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


You really should think and research before you make any more really idiotic statements.
Was comparing British to Canadian knife and gun violence. You could throw Australia in there as well. Knife crime is about the same between the three. Gun violence the same except Canada. That is where we diverge and Canada leaved the normal kingdom
 

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Was comparing British to Canadian knife and gun violence. You could throw Australia in there as well. Knife crime is about the same between the three. Gun violence the same except Canada. That is where we diverge and Canada leaved the normal kingdom


Bullshyte.


While you did include a reference to Britain in the original 3 line post, line three is telling:

Stabbing in Brit Land are pretty much the same as here.

Where Canada shines is gun crime.

We are pulling away from the civilized world and headed towards 'Murica numbers.[/QUOTE]


Really.


The UK gun death by homicide is 0.06 per 100,000. Canada is 0.55 per 100,000 away from that. The USA is 4.56 per 100,000 away from that, and 4.01 per 100,000 away from Canada.


Like I said, do some research.


BTW, the UK murder rate is 1.2 per 100,000..................very close to Canada's 1.68 per 100,000.
 

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"BTW, the UK murder rate is 1.2 per 100,000..................very close to Canada's 1.68 per 100,000."

That sounds way better than "Canada's murder rate is 30% higher than the UK's"

That 30% is mostly gun crime.

Our knife violence is almost equal.

Always a pleasure to destroy your research.
 

Bar Sinister

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Bullshyte.


While you did include a reference to Britain in the original 3 line post, line three is telling:

Stabbing in Brit Land are pretty much the same as here.

Where Canada shines is gun crime.

We are pulling away from the civilized world and headed towards 'Murica numbers.[/QUOTE]


Really.


The UK gun death by homicide is 0.06 per 100,000. Canada is 0.55 per 100,000 away from that. The USA is 4.56 per 100,000 away from that, and 4.01 per 100,000 away from Canada.


Like I said, do some research.


BTW, the UK murder rate is 1.2 per 100,000..................very close to Canada's 1.68 per 100,000.


Why are you using numbers regarding the UK that shows that gun control works?
 

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"BTW, the UK murder rate is 1.2 per 100,000..................very close to Canada's 1.68 per 100,000."

That sounds way better than "Canada's murder rate is 30% higher than the UK's"

That 30% is mostly gun crime.

Our knife violence is almost equal.

Always a pleasure to destroy your research.


Good Lord.


You're a dimwit, and couldn't effectively counter my arguments on your very best day, and my worst.


1.2 per 100,000 and 1.68 per 100,000 are very low numbers, and very close.


The fact you think it is a significant difference only proves your absolute lack of intellectual ability.