Trade WAR??!!
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No I'm not, because it hurts US consumers. But if he's determined to hurt US consumers, what are we to do about it? How does hurting Canadian consumers help US consumers? All that does it hurt us all. So yes, let Trump raise taxes on his consumers. We don't need to follow his example on this.
So you want the shitty steel pipe in your local chemical plant, vehicle and various other industrial and consumer goods?
If the foreign steel doesn't meet Canadian domestic standards, it won't be allowed in period, not because of protectionism but because foreign products must still meet the same standards as equivalent Canadian products.
Again, you're confusing free trade with the enforcement of domestic standards.
Thats what both Canada and the US have been trying to do but Trump got pissed because it was funneled through Canada.
Canada does not have unilateral free trade. If we did, we'd have no tariffs and subsidies. We'd merely block entry to product that don't meet Canadian product or service standards.
as for Trump, he's not ticked because products of lower quality are entering the US through Canada. He's ticked because less expensive products are entering the US through Canada.
Of course the US can do what it wants, but if a product meets Canadian product standards, we should let it in tariff-free and not subsidize their local competitors.
Trump's ego couldn't stand for someone publically declaring that they won't be pushed around by him. It goes against everything that Trump stands for.
So you don't think Canada and Mexico are complicit in making deals with foreign Countries/Companies manufactured goods to funnel into the states to side step U.S. tariffs to fit into the NAFTA agreement?
Mexico just a couple weeks ago stated that it was going to shield foreign vehicle manufactures and their agreements with them from the % of made in the U.S. material to be installed in vehicles sold in the U.S. So do you think the Mexico agreements with foreign auto makers were not made to benefit the foreign companies to get their vehicle into the states through NAFTA.
Oh, come on! The United States is just as complicit! They bring in auto parts from China and funnel them through to us in the form of automobiles. They bring in flat screens from Korea and funnel them to Canada in the form of lap-top computers. They bring in billions of $ of semi-conductors from all over the Pacific Rim and "dump" them on us in the form of finished electronics. That's the way the world works. Trump and Co. are about to find out that it is so intertwined that to punish us, China, Europe, Japan is to ultimately punish America. This mis-guided nationalism is going to cause a global recession.
So if Trump wins a small fraction of the concessions he is seeking it would be a win would it not? I would be willing to pay a little more for quality products that mean living wages not just corporate wealth.
Let's see. Trump didn't like that Canada hurt its own consumers with protectionist policies, so he decided to teach us a lesson by hurting his own consumers with protectionist policies too. Pure genius.
Trump threatens Europe with 20 percent tariff on auto imports, escalating trade showdown with U.S. allies
President Trump threatened to unilaterally impose a 20 percent tariff on all automobile imports from Europe, further breaking from Republicans in Congress and front-running an investigation he had ordered from the Commerce Department into whether these imports harm the U.S.'s national security.
It was the first time he had threatened to impose a specific level of tariffs on automobiles from Europe.
In a Twitter post, Trump demanded that the European Union remove tariffs it charges against U.S. imports or he will impose tariffs on their exports. In order to legally do this, he could be required to find that these imports threaten the national security of the United States, an argument that many Republicans in Congress have said is untrue.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nd-its-closest-allies/?utm_term=.b0f730fb420b
This will hurt the US which in turn will inevitably hurt Canada. Canada needs to compensate by promoting freer trade with the other countries.
Maybe Canada could do this: for every tariff it imposes on the US dollar for dollar, it will lower tariffs against other countries around the world by the same amount.
Breaking News
Canada to announce final tariff list, aid package for steel and aluminum Friday
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland will be in Hamilton, Ont. Friday to announce the Canadian government's final retaliatory tariff list as well as a financial aid package for the steel and aluminum industries, CTV News has learned.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/can...ckage-for-steel-and-aluminum-friday-1.3992961
Canada to announce final tariff list, aid package for steel and aluminum Friday
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland will be in Hamilton, Ont. Friday to announce the Canadian government's final retaliatory tariff list as well as a financial aid package for the steel and aluminum industries, CTV News has learned.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/can...ckage-for-steel-and-aluminum-friday-1.3992961
What do you want?? a full on WAR......with both parties upping the ante Like some kids?? Heck..even kids have more sense than that. NO ONE WINS in these situations. and a lot of people could get hurt. It affects the economy...... employment and that has a ripple effect.
You support this nonsense......do it at your own peril.
Diplomatic maneuvers are a lot more subtle , that overt and stupid aggression and one up man-ship.
Isn't it bad enough that these tensions exist because of that orange idiot to the south of us......who has no clue as to what the consequences can be.
the SMART person knows when to pull back..... it is the BULLY that sees things only in fighting and dangerous provocation..
Why inflame that short fuse orange top?? The world is dealing with a crazy person. narcissistic sociopath
& pathological liar )......get it?? Calm SMART thinking is called for. Sage wisdom. why give that idiot the war he is looking for?? He is making things bad as it is.It might happen anyhow.
Canada produces quality products and our country strives to provide minimum wages in the attempt to have our workers earn a living wage. Trump doesn't like any of that and he wants to punish us for having the temerity to not lick his spittle.
G.M. warned that a new wave of U.S. tariffs could force the company to scale back its business, drive up car prices and cost American jobs
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/...aking-news&nlid=55065696ing-news&ref=headline
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/...aking-news&nlid=55065696ing-news&ref=headline