So you went hiking in Afghanistan and you met the Taliban

Mowich

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Are you sure that is her?

Good question, IRBS.......unless I find one of her somewhere without the black robes, I guess we will never know. I did however nab it from one of the Canadian news sites.

WASHINGTON -- The parents of an American woman freed with her family after five years of captivity say they are elated, but also angry at their son-in law for taking their daughter to Afghanistan.

"Taking your pregnant wife to a very dangerous place, to me, and the kind of person I am, is unconscionable," Caitlan Coleman's father, Jim, told ABC News.

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Couldn't agree more, Jim.
 

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Maybe next time they will go hiking in Australia, or BC......


Australia is full of poisonous things and BC is full of mass murderers but other than that, they are both a better bet than Afghanistan.


How many mass murders have we seen in the past 20 years in B.C.? There was one in Vernon about 25 years ago and Pickton was guilty of serial murders.
 

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Great topic title, tay. :thumbright::thumbright: for originality.

I've been reading a bit about this couple and came across the interesting fact that Boyle was once married to Omar Khadr's oldest sister, Zaynab Khadr pictured here.



She like her younger sibling is a fanatical supporter of al-Qaida. I am not surprised that they were detained for so long nor that no one seemed in a hurry to come to their aid.



One never thinks their spur of the moment posts will come back to haunt them........this one has for you, CC. I take umbrage over your statement that my province is full of mass murderers. Now had you said the Left Coast, I would have been in full agreement with you. So far, here in the Heartland, we've been able to avoid mass slaughter...........unless you go all the way back to the Chilcotin Wars.

...or a certain pig farmer on the Fraser Delta ...

...or whoever has been hunting and killing young native women on the country highways over the decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders

You should be particularly concerned about that second, not-yet-caught one ... or group ... that will continue to kill unabated.

p.s. I take some umbrage that these poor girls are being ignored because of their ethnicity.
 
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Boyle, 33, who is Canadian, and Coleman, his 31-year-old American wife, have been held by the Taliban-linked Haqqani network since October 2012. They were kidnapped near Kabul, Afghanistan, during a backpacking trip through Central Asia.

Coleman says the video was made Dec. 3, and is surprisingly blunt in her criticism of both her kidnappers and the governments that have failed to free her family.

“We understand both sides hate us,” she says, appearing to read from a prepared script. “And are content to leave us and our two surviving children in these problems.

“But we can only ask and pray that somebody will recognize the atrocities these men carry out against us as so-called retaliation, in their ingratitude and hypocrisy. My children have seen their mother defiled.”

There have been other videos of the couple, including one posted directly to YouTube four months ago in which they warned they would be killed if the Afghan government did not stop executing Taliban prisoners. The video’s release coincided with an Aug. 29 Afghan court decision that sentenced Anas Haqqani, the son of the group’s founder, to death for his role in helping to raise funds for the network.

The Haqqani network — which has a strong presence in both Afghanistan and Pakistan — is closely aligned with the Taliban and its members are among the world’s most skilled kidnappers.

In past videos, the couple have appealed to the Afghan, American and Canadian governments, since Boyle is a Canadian citizen. But this time they address only the U.S. and Afghanistan, begging the two to “reach an agreement.”

“Obama, your legacy on leaving office is probably important to you, and our lives and those of our children are to us,” Coleman says. “So please don’t become the next Jimmy Carter. Just give the offenders something so they and you can save face and we can leave the region permanently.”

Coleman is likely referring to the failed attempt by Carter in 1980 to release Americans held hostage in Iran.

To U.S. president-elect Donald Trump, she says: “They want money, power, friends. You must give them these things before progress can be made. A five-year hostage-taking is too long and indicates failure on every side.”

Boyle also speaks to the camera saying that his captors “will not settle this until they get what they’re demanding.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...dren-seen-in-just-released-taliban-video.html


I bet that family is Islamaphobic for absolutely no good reasons. Shame on them.
 

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I bet that family is Islamaphobic for absolutely no good reasons. Shame on them.
I bet that family is more upset at the stupidity of their daughter and son-in-law going hiking in a war zone filled with warring religious tribes then they are Islmaphobic.

I don't know if her parent's knew they were going to that area, never mind Afghanistan, but If I as a parent knew that I would have done everything possible to stop them.

I do not believe the father is trying to dismiss their stupidity, no, not a strong enough word, maybe effing insanity, by suggesting the parents are Islamaphobic is accurate.

I as a parent would be crushed if this happened to my daughter but I'm sure my rage over them putting themselves in this situation in the first place would be my main rage........
 

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So, now that they're back and settled, where next to take a vacation? There is an embarrassment of choices, out there!

Mogadishu?

Pyongyang?

Tehran?

Baltimore?
 

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So, now that they're back and settled, where next to take a vacation? There is an embarrassment of choices, out there!

Mogadishu?

Pyongyang?

Tehran?

Baltimore?


Think I'd shun the first three for sure, but on second thought shit happens in places like London and Las Vegas too!
 

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Sounds like this captured dude is a Canadian Muslim, it also sounds like he still believes in his faith.

He keeps saying God Willing, maybe somebody should ask him if God willed his capture, the rape of his wife and killing of his daughter?? What a sicko fk.
 

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Sounds like this captured dude is a Canadian Muslim, it also sounds like he still believes in his faith.

He keeps saying God Willing, maybe somebody should ask him if God willed his capture, the rape of his wife and killing of his daughter?? What a sicko fk.


Does "Boyle" sound like a Muslim name?
 

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The forest and if you fuk up there there is no coming back. Tends you keep you on your toes and thinking straight in the first place.
Now that they know where are the mineral deposits are in the area they will be able to let Uncle Sam know where to dig. Sorry that should be, make area void of life and then dig.
 

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...or a certain pig farmer on the Fraser Delta ...

...or whoever has been hunting and killing young native women on the country highways over the decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders

You should be particularly concerned about that second, not-yet-caught one ... or group ... that will continue to kill unabated.

p.s. I take some umbrage that these poor girls are being ignored because of their ethnicity.

These girls are hardly being ignored. Our governments are spending millions on studies and appologies. What they are not doing is giving the RCMP unrestricted access to the reservations to poke around. Because that would be racial profiling.
 

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...or a certain pig farmer on the Fraser Delta ...

...or whoever has been hunting and killing young native women on the country highways over the decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders

You should be particularly concerned about that second, not-yet-caught one ... or group ... that will continue to kill unabated.

p.s. I take some umbrage that these poor girls are being ignored because of their ethnicity.

They are not being ignored, CC........though one might be forgiven for thinking so considering that the inquiry into the matter has, as is the lieberal way, proven to be yet another bureaucratic nightmare. Hard to get anything accomplished when the people tasked with the job of looking into the affair, keep quitting.
 

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Former Canadian hostage Joshua Boyle demands justice from Afghan government
THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 09:49 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:50 PM EDT
TORONTO — Former Canadian hostage Joshua Boyle has demanded that the Afghanistan government bring his kidnappers to justice for the “murder” of his infant daughter and the rape of his wife while they were in captivity.
A tired-looking Boyle read a brief statement to the media late Friday after arriving in Toronto with his American wife, Caitlan Coleman, and their three young children. The family was freed by Pakistani commandos on Wednesday after they and their captors crossed the border from Afghanistan.
Boyle and Coleman had been kidnapped in Afghanistan in October 2012 while on a backpacking trip. Coleman was pregnant at the time and had four children in captivity. The birth of the fourth child had not been publicly known before Boyle appeared before journalists in Toronto.
With hands trembling as he read his statement, Boyle lambasted the “stupidity and the evil” of his kidnappers, who he said were members of the Taliban-linked Haqqani network, for abducting both him and his pregnant wife during a trip to help villagers in Afghanistan’s Taliban-controlled areas.
He said the Haqqani leadership authorized the murder of his infant daughter in retaliation for his refusal to accept an offer from the kidnappers, but did not elaborate on the offer. He also condemned his kidnappers for engaging in the brutal rape of his wife.
“Not as a lone action by one guard, but assisted by the captain of the guard and supervised by the commandant ... of the Haqqani network.” Boyle said.
“God willing, this litany of stupidity will be the epitaph of the Haqqani network.”
Boyle said the Afghan government should provide his family the justice that they are owed.
“I certainly do not intend to allow a brutal and sacrilegious gang of criminal miscreants to… weaken my family’s commitment to do the right thing no matter the cost.”
Boyle said he and his wife now want to focus on building a new life.
“Obviously it will be of incredible importance to my family that we are able to build a secure sanctuary for our three surviving children, to call a home, to focus on edification and to try to regain some portion of the childhood that they have lost.”
The final leg of the family’s journey to freedom was an Air Canada flight from London to Toronto.
U.S. State Department officials accompanied the Boyle family on the flight home.
Boyle gave The Associated Press a handwritten statement expressing disagreement with U.S. foreign policy.
“God has given me and my family unparalleled resilience and determination, and to allow that to stagnate, to pursue personal pleasure or comfort while there is still deliberate and organized injustice in the world would be a betrayal of all I believe, and tantamount to sacrilege,” he wrote.
He nodded to one of the State Department officials and said, “Their interests are not my interests.”
He added that one of his children was in poor health and had to be force-fed by their Pakistani rescuers.
Coleman, who is from Stewartstown, Pennsylvania, sat in the aisle of the business-class cabin wearing a tan-coloured headscarf.
She nodded wordlessly when she confirmed her identity to a reporter on board the flight. In the two seats next to her were her two elder children. In the seat beyond that was Boyle, with their youngest child in his lap.
The family was escorted off the plane five-to-10 minutes before the other passengers on the flight.
The Canadian government said in a statement that it joined the Boyle family “in rejoicing over the long-awaited return to Canada of their loved ones.”
On Thursday, officials in Pakistan said the family had been rescued in “an intelligence-based operation” after their captors moved them across the border from Afghanistan.
The couple had set off in the summer 2012 on a journey that took them to Russia, the central Asian countries of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, and then to Afghanistan.
Their release came nearly five years to the day after Boyle and Coleman lost touch with their families while travelling in a mountainous region near the Afghan capital, Kabul.
Coleman’s parents last heard from their son-in-law on Oct. 8, 2012, from an Internet cafe in what Boyle described as an “unsafe” part of Afghanistan.
Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Nafees Zakaria, said the Pakistani raid that led to the family’s rescue was based on a tip from U.S. intelligence and shows that Pakistan will act against a “common enemy” when Washington shares information.
U.S. officials have long accused Pakistan of ignoring groups like the Haqqani network. The Americans consider it a terrorist organization and have targeted its leaders with drone strikes.
But the Haqqani group also operates like a criminal network. Unlike the Islamic State group, it does not typically execute Western hostages, preferring to ransom them for cash.
A U.S. national security official, who was not authorized to discuss operational details of the release and spoke only on condition of anonymity, said the U.S. obtained actionable information, passed it to Pakistani government officials, asked them to interdict and recover the hostages — and they did.
Boyle was once married to Zaynab Khadr, the older sister of former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr and the daughter of a senior al-Qaida financier. Her father, the late Ahmed Said Khadr, and the family stayed with Osama bin Laden briefly when Omar Khadr was a boy.
The Canadian-born Omar Khadr was 15 when he was captured by U.S. troops following a firefight and was taken to the U.S. detention centre at Guantanamo Bay. Officials had discounted any link between that background and Boyle’s capture, with one official describing it in 2014 as a “horrible coincidence.”
The U.S. Justice Department said neither Boyle nor Coleman is wanted for any federal crime.
— With files from The Associated Press
Former Canadian hostage Joshua Boyle demands justice from Afghan government | Ca
 

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Does "Boyle" sound like a Muslim name?

It sounds like an Arab medical condition.

Maybe,someone should interview Omar Khadr and ask him why the Taliban that he fought for does things like that to women and babies.

I'd like to hear his response, prime-time ... six PM News.

"My apologies for the Taliban" by Omar.
 

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I read somewhere else where someone said this Boyle sounds seriously delusional maybe he needs some time with mental health professionals.

Anyway Coming Up Next.......

Crowdfunding The Boyle Family Medical Expenses!

Yes you too can fork over big-or small but they prefer big-to pay for this idiot's gross stupidity.

Because they don't have medical coverage and somebody's gotta pay.
 

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I hope CSIS is keeping a close eye on Boyle. Someone with his background and former (let us hope) connections to terrorist supporters needs to be monitored.

I read somewhere else where someone said this Boyle sounds seriously delusional maybe he needs some time with mental health professionals.

Anyway Coming Up Next.......

Crowdfunding The Boyle Family Medical Expenses!

Yes you too can fork over big-or small but they prefer big-to pay for this idiot's gross stupidity.

Because they don't have medical coverage and somebody's gotta pay.

We can only hope that the Feds - who will of course find themselves having to pony up for these people - will use the Phoenix pay system in order to do so. That way taxpayers could be off the hook for a very long time.
 

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I hope CSIS is keeping a close eye on Boyle. Someone with his background and former (let us hope) connections to terrorist supporters needs to be monitored.

I suppose that it's worth mentioning that ISIS and the Taliban are enemies (What a viper's nest, eh?) Boyle could be an IS true believer.