
The mind is the most powerful tool known to man. There are forces in the world that do not want you to know that. I have been playing with this stuff for forty years and I am as lucid as a cucumber.

Fairly substantial indeed. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, that kind of thing. I have left my body for medical research, so I assume they will harvest what organs they can, and use the rest for research. That is where it ends.

SirJP - You must have missed out on the parts of history that teach us about the body being more than just a physical object - you know, the spiritual part, to name one. In some cultures, they believe that you consist of body, mind, and spirit. Each one is part of your being.
I've seen different twists on this (body, mind, and soul) but they're mostly fairly consistent with each other, from what I've seen.
When you combine that with the beliefs that exist in the energy of the universe and how it is responsible for all life, it shapes up into something that seems to be quite understandable.
It all presents some interesting, if not fascinating possibilities about what life is all about, why we are here, and where we might be going after we're finished with the physical body.

SirJP - You must have missed out on the parts of history that teach us about the body being more than just a physical object - you know, the spiritual part, to name one. In some cultures, they believe that you consist of body, mind, and spirit. Each one is part of your being.
I've seen different twists on this (body, mind, and soul) but they're mostly fairly consistent with each other, from what I've seen.
When you combine that with the beliefs that exist in the energy of the universe and how it is responsible for all life, it shapes up into something that seems to be quite understandable.
It all presents some interesting, if not fascinating possibilities about what life is all about, why we are here, and where we might be going after we're finished with the physical body.

C.B. Did you ever read books by Sylvia Brown (the psychic)? Lot of stuff there to mull over. NOt sure just how valid all of it is, but she sure has the answers. She has already lived through over 60 incarnations and from what I could gather she figures she's on her last. I'm just wondering if the stupider you are the more you have to look forward to. I must be good for at least another 60.

until you got to the part about 'where we might go after
we are finished here', i was really enjoying the post, but
i got off there.
We are going back into the earth, no biggy, very comfortable
there, she will protect us well after death, i'm not going
anywhere else, mother earth it is.

Talking about "life after death" makes a lot of people very uncomfortable, but I've never figured out why. To me, it's all very fascinating in spite of the fact that we don't have scientific proof of any of it.
My opinion is that there must be more to it than just being a piece of meat that's here for a few years, and then planted to rot. Or get burned up. That seems to be a rather shallow version of it all, but maybe we're just not meant to know all these things. I figure that could be why it's a mystery to us - what's wrong with a little mystery? Keeps life (as we think we know it) more interesting.

C.B. Did you ever read books by Sylvia Brown (the psychic)? Lot of stuff there to mull over. NOt sure just how valid all of it is, but she sure has the answers. She has already lived through over 60 incarnations and from what I could gather she figures she's on her last. I'm just wondering if the stupider you are the more you have to look forward to. I must be good for at least another 60.

JLM - we have talked about Sylvia Browne before. She is as phoney as all the rest. She has all the answers all right. She's a great actor. She just changes "her lines" every few years.
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I believe there is more than just dying and dust to dust etc. You cannot just be with a dying person who is yelling at their mother that they will soon be there and watch them die right then and not believe there is something. I know I've told you this story before but again, as I said before, that man sat upright in his bed with the strength of a lion and yelled something at what to me looked like a bare wall. Then he fell backwards on his bed only to rise up one more time and yell the same thing again. I didn't know what he was saying as he was Albanian. Another Albanian woman in the room told me that he was telling his mother he would be there soon. He rose up a second time with the same strength, yelled the same words and died! I talked with our minister (right there in Vernon) and he said there just has to be something. He said he had been with so many dying people and what I witnessed was not un-common. I've never been in a room with a dying person before or since. I know enough about the S. Browne's of this world to know she is phony! I don't believe that anyone can talk to dead people.

Vanisle, there is a book about this. I believe its called Final Moments. Yes, this is quite common. The book was written to help prepare next of kin for what to expect during their loved ones final hours. It doesn't proclaim it to be proof of the afterlife, nor does it claim it isn't, but it could be the natural shutting down of the brain and body. Literally life flashing in front of one's eyes.

Talking about "life after death" makes a lot of people very uncomfortable, but I've never figured out why. To me, it's all very fascinating in spite of the fact that we don't have scientific proof of any of it.
My opinion is that there must be more to it than just being a piece of meat that's here for a few years, and then planted to rot. Or get burned up. That seems to be a rather shallow version of it all, but maybe we're just not meant to know all these things. I figure that could be why it's a mystery to us - what's wrong with a little mystery? Keeps life (as we think we know it) more interesting.

I have spent an number of years with native shaman and healers. I witnessed stuff that is considered outside the realm of possibility in our culture and science. I spent time with one of the most respected spiritual elders of the Cree people. I know from personal experience that, although our body may rot in the end, part of us continues in the web of life, in the circle of the Mother.
The elders refer to the Earth as the Mother because she is the source of all life living on this planet. She is a living entity without whose energy there would be no living things on this rock.
But our perception of reality is based on our beliefs about it, so those who hold to the rock of their beliefs will limit their perception and miss out on experiencing a much greater vision of reality. Dying is not the end of the journey, it is just another portal to another leg of it.

yes, the earth is everything to us, she gave us life. I
don't have any beliefs beyond our life and death on this
earth, and take great comfort in knowing she will hold
me close for eternity after I die, I don't need any other
voo doo, or outer limits, or angelic beliefs, not for me.

There is nothing wrong with your vision. That is not what I am saying. All I am saying is, this is what I have experienced. This is what I believe. There is no judgment in that.