Women who love psycopaths

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Carol Hoyer, PhD
News Blaze
Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:16 UTC



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The authors have given us an excellent overview of how women get sucked into unhealthy relationships with men who are power hungry, controlling and have no concern or empathy for those whom they hurt. These are men who can harm an individual without killing them. Psychologist's and society call them sociopaths or psychopaths.

The detailed information on topics such as: understanding the psychopath; how men hook women into their dark world; the woman who is a high risk for getting into a relationship with a psychopath and stories from four women who were caught in this deceitful web.

As I read this book, I will honestly say that it was the story of my daughter and the man who took her life without killing her. Reading this book gave me chills for all women who are or might get into a relationship like this. One chapter that really held my interest was the chapter on "The Use of Trance, Hypnosis and Suggestibility." The authors talk about how this type of man can spend all his time around a woman focusing on them and no one else by making little comments such as "You're so wonderful and beautiful," "No one has ever made me feel the way you do- they just don't understand me." How does this work you might ask- one thing I found from reading this book is that some women have high attentional factors- this comes from possible history of abuse or neglect; extensive dependency and excessive self-sacrificing.

As a Psychologist, I do know that we all have asked how can women stay in a relationship with a man like this? The author's have done an incredible job in explaining the temperament, and character traits that draw women into this type of harmful relationship and further explain why they remain. This book is such an unbelievable account of a profile of women who attract psychopaths. After reading this, readers will have an excellent view of how, what and when this happens. This is a book every therapist should recommend to women who have been in harmful relationships and it is a book all therapists or would-be therapist need to read.

Sandra L. Brown, Liane J. Leedom
Health and Well-Being Publications
P.O. Box 1056
Fairfield, CT 06825
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Carol Hoyer is a Psychologist and online college instructor, as well as a freelance book reviewer. You can contact her through NewsBlaze or her blog at voicesfromreading.blogspot.com
 
Said1
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Narcissists. They exploit weakness, or they create weakness in people - or both.


Did you read this book or jsut interested in the topic?
 
Kreskin
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Do not let my wife know about this book.
 
Said1
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Why, are you a pscycho?
 
lone wolf
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How ironic this person's name is Carol....
 
Kreskin
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Quote: Originally Posted by Said1View Post

Why, are you a pscycho?

The jig will be up.
 
Tyr
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Welll.... Men can love psycopaths also..... Just ask my ex-wife
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The jig will be up.

I don't believe you. If you really were a psycho, you wouldn't care.

Or, if you're really a boring, run of the mill narcissist, you''re probably in denial.
 
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I don't believe you. If you really were a psycho, you wouldn't care.

Or, if you're really a boring, run of the mill narcissist, you''re probably in denial.

It's not about caring, it's about having my alibi ducks in a row.
 
lone wolf
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You can love 'em ... and damn but they can be so lovable when they want to be. The problem is in liking them....
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

It's not about caring, it's about having my alibi ducks in a row.

Gotcha.

If anyone asks, you were here all night.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

It's not about caring, it's about having my alibi ducks in a row.

"And what's THAT supposed to mean?" Familiar at all?
 
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Yes, I was here all night. I only moved dirt in the basement because I needed exercise.
 
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Yes, I was here all night. I only moved dirt in the basement because I needed exercise.

that's right. And, you posted here that your treadmill is useless.
 
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that's right. And, you posted here that your treadmill is useless.

That's right, it's so useless I have to shovel at night for exercise.
 
Twila
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The authors talk about how this type of man can spend all his time around a woman focusing on them and no one else by making little comments such as "You're so wonderful and beautiful," "No one has ever made me feel the way you do- they just don't understand me.

So in a healthy relationship with emotionally healthy men and women, these types of sweetnothings can't be said? Or is it just that for some people who say them and for some people who like to hear them, it's bad? Or is it simply a fake call out?
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

So in a healthy relationship with emotionally healthy men and women, these types of sweetnothings can't be said? Or is it just that for some people who say them and for some people who like to hear them, it's bad? Or is it simply a fake call out?

I suppose there really is a fine line between the sweet nothings spoken in romance and those spoken to manipulate.... The big difference is did you feel used when it's all said and done?
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

So in a healthy relationship with emotionally healthy men and women, these types of sweetnothings can't be said? Or is it just that for some people who say them and for some people who like to hear them, it's bad? Or is it simply a fake call out?

I haven't read the book, but I'm assuming the person will taylor their speal with what works, specific to any given women's weaknesses - the above probably being classic. When people are really good at this sort of thing, you don't have to show weakness outwardly (over weight, homley, posture) a lot of revealed in what you say, (or on the internet write) without even realizing it.
 
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........" women have high attentional factors-"

WTF is a high attentional factor.??

That's what my problem was. These smoothies jist say whut th' wimmin wanna heare, eh. My line was "hey wanna go fishin?"......y'all bring the beer and the geetar. Ah'l show ya how ta play. I'll fish.

Never scored much, but I caught a lot of fish.........hehehehe.......Always had to buy me own werms two, eh.

Gerls, ifn a guy is tellin ya yer beautiful but is lookin in the mirror at hiself, yanno he's a psycho. er a socio at the minimum.

Quit him an get yerselves a farmer.

When he starts stayin out in the barn too long, yer doin sumpthun rong.

Er, Bossie is doin sumpthin rite

eh

 
Avro
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I think the beave is wondering aloud why he can' get a date when stats show he shouldn't have a problem finding a few insane women out for punishment.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

I think the beave is wondering aloud why he can' get a date when stats show he shouldn't have a problem finding a few insane women out for punishment.

NO ONE knows whut the Beave is wonderin.

If he would leave his wind-powered, solar castle long enough to seek a winsome lass, chances are he would have no problem.

He might not find one but he would have no problem.

Kidden, Beaver.

 
lone wolf
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Hell, just don't get 'em off the Internet. I'd just as soon meet Beave's Tim, the one-legged chicken. At least I'd know why I'm being henpecked....
 
eanassir
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

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"Some women have an influence on men like magic, in spite of that these women are not so beautiful." I heard this from Abu abd-Allah.


I think some men have also an overwhelming control on some women, like magic.

IMO this may be due to some sex superactivity in the attractive woman or man; it may be loading them with some attractive charges (negative or positive charges ) and this may cause some attractivity on the opposite charges in the male or female.


An observation: there is some effect like radiation overwhelming the second person: it is like the influence of cat on mouse or the snake on a frog or the eagle on a sparrow. I saw a picture of a snake hypnotizing (as they said in the caption) a frog as it moved towards it before taking it.

I saw many times a sparrow following a pigeon as if it is tied to the pigeon by a string, so wherever the pigeon went the sparrow was following it, and it made many wavy flights up and down, right and left until it got rid of the sparrow. Very strange indeed.
Last edited by eanassir; Feb 6th, 2009 at 12:32 AM..
 
darkbeaver
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I'v been reading about psycopathy for a year or so. It helps to understand the control hierarchy, the people in charge, why the worst of humanity rises to the top and what it costs mankind.
 
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What's interesting (with respect to the original post) is that those who are sometimes involved with this type of person often have a distorted view of right and wrong themselves.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

I'v been reading about psycopathy for a year or so. It helps to understand the control hierarchy, the people in charge, why the worst of humanity rises to the top and what it costs mankind.


When I was in the compulsory military service, I worked in the health military department; an event happened about 25 years ago:

a psychopathic man (we had not recognized him as such before); he was sitting among his comrades; they joked with him, then all of a sudden he took his machinery gun and shoot them: killing some of them and injured others, then he stood in his place and did not run away.

When they brought him for investigation, he was quiet and did not feel any guilt, then we wrote a medical report for him that he was a psychopath, and the military court sentenced him to prison for life.

But he refused and appealed for changing the sentence, because he was defending his honor as he said: his comrades transgressed on his honor by their joking, and the supreme cassation court then sentenced him to death.
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darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Said1View Post

What's interesting (with respect to the original post) is that those who are sometimes involved with this type of person often have a distorted view of right and wrong themselves.

That's important I think Said1. It has been said that many individuals in positions of authority fit the psycopathic description, they have been elevated to those positions democratically or meritoriously.
So we have been trained by the psycopathic to select and elect the psycopathic. This is not new though, it's just a hell of a lot more efficient in the digital world. For example, Obama is without a doubt a very bad person able to lie through his teeth very convincingly and sign into law the insturments of death of hundreds of millions yet he is seen as a messianic figure of endless hope and benevolent change by the stupified masses, all in stark contrast to what is actually known of his public record. We see at CC diverse distorted views of right and wrong in our tiny chunk of the orb. May Allah help us.
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A VIEW OF LOVE
"After shooting her children [Diane Downs] had an affair with Jason Redding, and wrote, “But Bert was in the past, and Jason was in the present. True, I was writing letters to Bert telling him how much I loved him, that he was the only man on earth for me. … When he began to refuse the letters, I started saving them in a notebook, making an entry each night, most of them a paragraph of two, a page at most. They entries were the same, just with different wording: ‘I love you Bert, why aren’t you here, I need you, you’re the only man for me.’ … I mixed a drink and wrote my hollow words of love to Bert as I sank into a hot bubble bath. … I thought about Bert. … Minutes later Jason knocked at the door, and as I flew down the stairs to meet him, my thoughts of Bert flew as well.” Diane’s “hollow words of love” were a source of pride for her, as if their use was entirely intentional, designed for a particular purpose.” (Hare, 132)
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If applied to Obama, the ability to tell the truth play the same role as his lies - a means to attain goals. Other than mass appeal, his truths have nothing to do with his ability to run a country.
 
eanassir
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I am not specialized in the field of psychiatry, but I think Obama is not included in this category. He is simple, very thin, his face is small, and he is smiling; while the psychopath usually is stern, not smily, frawning or serious or apathetic rigid looking.

Such psychopaths have some peculiar features (this is usually, not essential): tall, usually not very thin, but moderate neither thin nor fat, with oblong face, obsessional and compulsory personality, and usually he is strong concerning his muscular power.

He may have some genetic features.

Many prisoners may have such personality predisposition; including may be some guards or the executioner and some of the police, the security and the intelligence, specially those predisposed to torture the prisoners.
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If you are saying Obama is not in this category based on his physical appearance, I would say you were wrong. Not all people who exibit anti-social behavior need to dominate and control through the use of physical force. I'm not an expert either, but I would wager that the less intelligent and influential psychos are in jail, too.


Edit to add: I replied before your edit.
 

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