Ottawa to ban baby bottles made with bisphenol A

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The Canadian federal government announced Friday it intends to ban the import and sale of polycarbonate baby bottles containing bisphenol A, making Canada the first country in the world to limit exposure to the controversial chemical.

“But the plastics industry has vigorously defended the chemical, noting that it's been widely used for 50 years.”

Hmm the plastics industry said its been around for 50 years so it must be ok for humans, hmmmmm

This got me to wondering. Hmmm, I wonder about other chemicals that have been around for many years. Take organophosphates for instance, the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve gases. They’ve been around for 150 years. We spray them over our crops and our lawns. Hmmm what other diseases have been around for 150 years?????

disease is never purely biological, but often, socially derived
Rudolf Virchow


I wonder what Dow AgroSciences Canada and Friedrich Bayer Canada would have to say about that…

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The Canadian federal government announced Friday it intends to ban the import and sale of polycarbonate baby bottles containing bisphenol A, making Canada the first country in the world to limit exposure to the controversial chemical.

“But the plastics industry has vigorously defended the chemical, noting that it's been widely used for 50 years.”

Hmm the plastics industry said its been around for 50 years so it must be ok for humans, hmmmmm

This got me to wondering. Hmmm, I wonder about other chemicals that have been around for many years. Take organophosphates for instance, the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve gases. They’ve been around for 150 years. We spray them over our crops and our lawns. Hmmm what other diseases have been around for 150 years?????

disease is never purely biological, but often, socially derived
Rudolf Virchow


I wonder what Dow AgroSciences Canada and Friedrich Bayer Canada would have to say about that…

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Sometimes it is better to be on the side of cautious.
 

Liberalman

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The doctors are against this because it would take away future income of sick patients.

Misdiagnosis makes all doctors and labs wealthy.
 

AmberEyes

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Bisphenol A, from what I know, is another one of those substances that is safe when used properly. Like Teflon, if you don't know how to clean it/take care of it you end up causing it to degrade in some way. You aren't supposed to be bleaching stuff made with that plastic, nor are you supposed to put it in the dishwasher (which has extremely high temperatures and can often melt plastics). If people get sick from it it's because they didn't follow the directions that were given to them.
 

Walter

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Terence Corcoran for Junk Science Week: No death by Bisphenol A
Posted: June 17, 2009, 8:35 PM by NP Editor

A new book rehashes all the now-familiar claims about how we live in a toxic chemical soup that is supposedly the cause of most ailments known to man

By Terence Corcoran
The number is 3,500. That’s the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s official limit on how much of the chemical Bisphenol A (BPA), measured by nanogram per millilitre, an average male can safely take in every day of his life for 70 years. It’s a very small number. A nanogram is one billionth of a gram.

Humans are exposed to Bisphenol A through contact with plastic bottles and containers, tin cans lined with protective coatings and other polycarbonate products. The EPA reference dose is based on its assessment of thousands of studies, including tests in which animals were injected with BPA and studies of humans exposed to it. The EPA, along with regulators in Europe and Asia, have concluded that the current incidence of BPA is safe for all, including babies. French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot said in March that “baby bottles containing this chemical compound are innocuous.”

Now have a look at the graph above. It’s a reproduction from a new book, Slow Death By Rubber Duck: How the Toxic Chemistry of Everyday Life Affects Our Health. Authors of the book are Rick Smith and Bruce Lourie. Mr. Smith is executive director of Environental Defence, one of Canada’s leading science scaremongers and lobbyists.

Slow Death is a rehash of all the now-familiar claims about how we live in a toxic chemical soup that is supposedly the cause of most ailments known to man — from cancer to genetic deformation, including turning men into women and vice-versa.

But Slow Death has a fresh and simple gimmick. Through the book, Mr. Smith and his partner deliberately expose themselves to various chemicals in ways that more or less mimic normal behavior. They spray themselves with perfumes that contain phthalates, eat tuna fish allegedly loaded with mercury and test themselves for pesticide levels. The result: A lot of hoary rhetoric, a few meaningless graphs and some numbers that — despite the hype — prove the opposite of their intent.

The graph above, Rick’s BPA, reproduces the book’s report on one of those gimmick tests. It measures the amount of BPA in Mr. Smith’s urine after he had deliberately exposed himself to various products containing BPA. He drank coffee that would have contained traces of BPA, ate canned pineapple. Then he collected urine samples and sent them to a Harvard lab for analysis. The results, says Mr. Smith in the book, showed a “dramatic spike” in BPA levels. “I increased my BPA levels more than sevenfold from before exposure to after exposure.”

To attest to the alleged danger in the level of BPA in his urine, recorded at about 17.8 nanograms per millilitre, Mr. Smith turns to his favourite authority on BPA, Fred vom Saal of the University of Missouri. “Holy mackeral!,” said Mr. vom Saal. “This is really scary.” He said that if a baby were fed in the same way, this would be “very concerning.”

Notice how Mr. Smith dodges the first implication, which is that his BPA level might be dangerous to himself. Because BPA is flushed out of the average human within 24 hours, the 17.8 nanograms of BPA in each millitre of Rick Smith’s urine is roughly equal to his intake of BPA. How risky is this? The 17.8 nanograms is so far below the official U.S. reference dose as to be invisible and meaningless.

When I showed these numbers to Sam Kacew, associate director, Toxicology, at the McLauglin Centre for Population Health Risk Assessment at University of Ottawa, he called them “junk science.” Keith Solomon, Professor at Guelph University and a fellow at the Academy of Toxicological Sciences at Guelph University, said numbers on the BPA content of Rich Smith’s urine “are totally meaningless in a toxicological sense.”

Since Mr. Smith and the rest of us are clearly not at any risk from BPA or any of the other chemicals of daily life, Slow Death by Rubber Duck must depend on regurgitating the theories that have long been part of the bible of chemophobia.

First there’s the baby threat, even though just about every government in the world that measures these things has found no risk. Even the government of Canada, which banned baby bottles that might contain BPA, said there was no established risk to babies. Canada banned BPA bottles as a “precaution.”

If the false baby alarm doesn’t get attention, the next scare is the endocrine disruptor argument. The key expert on BPA in Slow Death is Fred vom Saal of the University of Missouri, a man whose scientific research has been rejected, dismissed and/or disproven around the world.

But it is thanks to Mr. Smith and the media that popular fear of BPA and other chemicals continues to dominate public perception. A new record of that process by STATS at George Mason University, “Science Suppressed: How America became obsessed with BPA,” documents the spread of BPA junk science (stats.org). It should kill the popular obsession, except for the fact that people like Rick Smith and books like Slow Death by Rubber Duck continue to attract attention, even though the risk they talk about is as real as the risk implied by Mr. Smith’s urine samples.