Telescope Array Takes First-Ever Photo of Black Hole

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https://sputniknews.com/science/201704141052624651-black-hole-photo-first-ever/


What's 'wrong' with this photo??
The color of the disk is going from a darker color to a lighter color and then total blackness. There should be one transition towards black for the speed of stars as they got closer their speed would increase some degree an that would require a color change.

Would it appear as a perfect circle or would the circular rotation of the galaxy tend to make it oblong or appear off center as the mass is going away from the viewer and on the other side it should be coming towards you and that requires color changes at least.
The plasma jets that should be at the galaxies N/S poles are missing.
The earth is an example of the galaxy we live in. The visible mass is centered around the equator and the universe is a flat dish with it's mass also being at the equator.When it shrinks it is not a symmetrical collapse as the poles have less mass to act as a resistance that is is the weak spot and the exit from the shrinking ball of mass,
 
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What's wrong with that photo is that photons will not escape the gravitation of a black hole and therefore you will not see it.
 
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Exactly, what's wrong with it is that it's not a photo, it's an artist's impression of what a black hole might look like. And it's probably wrong, human imagination generally comes up short compared to what the data show about how nature actually behaves. It's true that photons will not escape a black hole, once past the event horizon they're gone (except for some that get away due to quantum uncertainty, which Hawking showed will eventually evaporate a black hole, they have finite lifetimes), but they'll certainly radiate from the tortured matter in the accretion disk and make the black hole's location detectable. And contrary to the claim at the linked article in the OP, Saturn's rings are not an accretion disk, they're pretty stable and are not spiralling into the planet.
 
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I read that they think that the rings of saturn were the result of a previous moon being struck by another object like maybe a trans-neptunian. While leaving Titan and Iaptus as the original moons not affected by the event.
 
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All I can say is thank god this is a family friendly forum, because this thread has the potential to go way off the rail.
 
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In this case I'm trying to limit myself to just what color changes would take place should the Milky way turn out to have a center that is this definition of a black hole. Everything goes in but nothing comes out, . . . ever.

In my honest opinion I would classify a black hole is the one where the universe does not have one star that is shedding light (and heat). If it is true the universe is expanding and doesn't appear to be slowing down enough to prevent distance alone will not allow exploding stars to reform into another star once it joins with enough matter from other exploded stars. There would not seem to be a recovery from that fate
 
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Dexter Sinister said:
Exactly, what's wrong with it is that it's not a photo, it's an artist's impression of what a black hole might look like. And it's probably wrong, human imagination generally comes up short compared to what the data show about how nature actually behaves. It's true that photons will not escape a black hole, once past the event horizon they're gone (except for some that get away due to quantum uncertainty, which Hawking showed will eventually evaporate a black hole, they have finite lifetimes), but they'll certainly radiate from the tortured matter in the accretion disk and make the black hole's location detectable. And contrary to the claim at the linked article in the OP, Saturn's rings are not an accretion disk, they're pretty stable and are not spiralling into the planet.
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I f you accept the literal meaning of the word, and you should, then there is obviously noplace outside the one place to expand into, is there?
 
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I forward a copy of this photo to my grand daughter who works at he Atecama Radio Telescope facility in Chile. Her immediate comment was this is not a genuine item. She says there are many images being circulated which are not authentic nor correct.
 
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TARS the only true way to map out a black hole.



Dexter Sinister said:
That's the crazy man I won't argue with, at least not on this subject.

Most of the radiation would be at x-ray and gamma ray energies.
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Dont be shy to correct me if im wrong in the future. I just love everything to do with Astronomy....

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TARS the only true way to map out a black hole.





Dont be shy to correct me if im wrong in the future. I just love everything to do with Astronomy....

The only thing i love more than Astronomy is pissing people off :)
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Dexter Sinister said:
Most of the radiation would be at x-ray and gamma ray energies.
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Variable rates would mean energy at random rates. Sooner or later the mass coming in will stop and the ejections would stop. There would be 1 of those for every galaxy. Galaxies are moving away from each other but stars within a single galaxy can create new stars.

The end of light.
 
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