Nasa's 'holy grail': Entire solar system that could support alien life discovered


mentalfloss
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We need to find out what their refugee policy is like.


Nasa's 'holy grail': Entire solar system that could support alien life discovered

Scientists have found a new solar system filled with planets that look like Earth and could support life, Nasa has announced.

At least three of the seven planets represent the “holy grail for planet-hunting astronomers”, because they sit within the “temperate zone” and are the right temperature to allow alien life to flourish, the researchers have said. And they are capable of having oceans, again suggesting that life could flourish on them.

No other star system has ever been found to contain so many Earth-sized and rocky planets, of the kind thought to be necessary to contain aliens.

The researchers might soon be able to find evidence of life on the planets, they have said. British astronomer Dr Chris Copperwheat, from Liverpool John Moores University, who was part of the international team, said: “The discovery of multiple rocky planets with surface temperatures which allow for liquid water make this amazing system an exciting future target in the search for life."

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lone wolf
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No worries.... Unless they're foraging, we're safe. There's not much intelligent life down here....
 
Johnnny
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Pretty cool thats for sure. Was hoping to hear something about tau ceti, procoyn, or the Alpha Centauris but this is cool still.

Question, could red dwarves evolve life similar in complexity to life thats evolved around G class stars?
 
Ludlow
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They don't want complainers
 
Curious Cdn
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Fake News!!! NASA is a bunch of fuctard/libtard/climate-clown/dem-dum/socialist/Obamie-commie/dum-de-dum-de-dum/leftie/science nerds.

What the hell do THEY know? Do they think they know more than Breitbart? Hunh? ... Hunh?

It ain't rocket science, ya know!
 
Johnnny
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Is these planets had orbited a K, G or F star then i would be super excited...
 
grumpydigger
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We just have to figure out what planet trump came from
 
MHz
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Enough about that, are we the smartest?? or do we have to build more guns to become the smartest??
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Enough about that, are we the smartest?? or do we have to build more guns to become the smartest??

Yeah we're a warring people who couldn't give two shyts about their neighbor. We're real smart.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Enough about that, are we the smartest?? or do we have to build more guns to become the smartest??

Some of us are smarter than others.

We'll offer you up as a meal, so that they leave the rest of us alone.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Enough about that, are we the smartest?? or do we have to build more guns to become the smartest??

If they got here and we haven't got there who's got the smarts in that department - and quite likely more?
 
Cliffy
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Interesting that NASA schedules this announcement at the same time the army, national guard, Morton County police and DAPL security surround and arrest natives at the protest camps so that none of the MSM are there to film it.
We can't take care of our own planet and we treat people who don't think like us with contempt and brutality. The only reason why aliens would come here would be to annihilate our disgust species.
 
petros
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DAPL is passe. Did you hear about the camp clean costs and the damage to the ecosystem garage and human waste left to pollute the very water the cocksuckers claimed to be protecting? F-ck me Charlie Brown!


$1/4 million USD...

Threat Of Flooding Rises At Dakota Access Protest Site


Imagine if you will an oil and gas pipeline company whose workers move into Army Corps of Engineers land in the middle of summer and establish an illegal campsite. Imagine next that said oil and gas pipeline company then sends out a nationwide call to action inviting non-employees from all parts of the country to join its employees at the campsite. Imagine that, over the next several months, thousands of such outsiders come and go to and from the illegal site, leaving behind piles of trash, large volumes of human waste, and dozens of abandoned cars, commercial vans, buses and trucks, many of which are broken down or out of gasoline.

Next, imagine that said oil and gas pipeline company’s management gets a little antsy about the situation around December, worried that the campsite in fact sits smack dab in the middle of a flood plain, a flood plain that drains into a nearby lake which serves as the drinking water supply for several Indian tribes and surrounding communities. Imagine that management understands that, when the spring thaws begin to come around the first of March, the resulting flood waters will carry whatever garbage, human waste and abandoned cars remain at the site right down into that nearby lake, thus polluting the drinking water for those surrounding communities.

Now, imagine that several hundred of those outsiders choose to ignore the requests by management to leave, and instead stick around causing trouble and interfering with cleanup efforts until mid-February. Imagine that the oil and gas pipeline company refuses to clean up its own mess, and leaves that job to the Army Corps of Engineers.

Imagine that, as the cleanup efforts finally begin, the weather suddenly becomes unseasonably warm, causing much of the snow and ice to begin to melt, turning the campsite into an ugly, muddy quagmire. Imagine that, at that point, the crews conducting the cleanup have only managed to haul off about 25% of the gigantic mounds of garbage, and haven’t even begun removing the abandoned cars, and now they’re having a hard time getting their trucks and other equipment into the site to do the work.

Now, imagine the uproar that would be taking place in the national news media had an oil and gas pipeline company caused such a situation to exist. And imagine the legal hell that would rain down upon said oil and gas pipeline company in the form of fines, civil penalties and even criminal penalties from a multitude of local, state and federal government agencies in such a situation, especially if the site is not ultimately cleaned out before the spring floods begin in earnest.

I am of course describing the current dire situation that exists at the protest site of the Dakota Access Pipeline, and the series of events that have led up to it. Except, of course, it wasn’t an oil and gas pipeline company that created this situation – Energy Transfer Partners (NYSE:ETP), the builder of the Dakota Access line, is in fact the target of the protesters, who somewhat ironically like to call themselves “water protectors.”

There is of course no national media uproar condemning the protesters who have created the current mess, or the conflict groups that helped to organize them, raised millions as a result of the conflict, but are contributing nothing to the cleanup. Nor is there any negative media mention of the dozens of celebrities who have visited the site to get a little free publicity over the last several months, or drawn attention to themselves by supporting the cause on social media, but who also are doing nothing to help with the clean up effort.

The Washington Post managed to find space to publish a story on the situation on Monday, but its story angle was completely sympathetic to the protesters – whose efforts have now cost Morton County taxpayers almost $33 million at last count, with millions more to come – and to the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, whose national call to action last summer was the catalyst for the influx of the outside protesters. Indeed, a January tally of the almost 600 protesters who have been arrested during this protest action demonstrated that more than 94% of them hail from out of state, and more than 180 had criminal records.

The Washington Post’s story makes no mention of any of that, no mention of the dozens of abandoned cars or of the estimated 200-plus large truckloads of garbage left behind by the protesters that remain at the site. No mention of all the arrests of out-of-staters, or of the massive cost to Morton County. Indeed, the only real mention the Post makes of trash in the camp reads as follows: ”In the slurry running through camp are the remains of a mostly abandoned mini-city: an unopened packet of Top Ramen, a broken shovel, a mud-soaked glove, a pacifier.”

National media outlets have tended to portray these protesters – many of whom are professionals – as a peaceful and spiritual bunch. When I asked Morton County spokesman Rob Keller about that, he chuckled and said, “this is not a peaceful and prayerful crowd.” When I asked him what he meant, he said, “Let me put it this way – our county law enforcement officials have never been into that campsite, because it’s a free-for-all.”

Local officials have been stunned by the hateful nature of the protesters and their supporters, who have deluged the county’s phone lines with death threats. ”We have collected more than 25,000 recordings of hate calls,” Keller says.

The local news media outlets – most notably the local Fox affiliate, KFYR, and Rob Port, a columnist for the Forum News Service who has done yeoman’s work at the SayAnythingBlog – have been much more on top of the story, and willing to publish films and photos of the camp’s real condition.

The state of North Dakota also manages a website – NDRESPONSE - that provides excellent documentation of the real status of the protest site. Their reporting has very clearly demonstrated that there is far more “in the slurry running through the camp” than the Post’s report implies, and with another week of spring-like weather to come, concerns about the potential for that slurry turning into a stream carrying pollutants into the nearby lake are very real indeed. ”We are very concerned about the potential for significant flooding and runoff into the lake later this week,” Keller said.

Given the way in which this situation has developed over time, it is fair to provide an admittedly partial list of well-heeled celebrities who have either visited the protest site since last August or expressed their support via social media for the #NoDAPL protest, and who are now making no effort whatsoever to assist in cleaning up the looming ecological disaster their “water protectors” have left behind:

Actress Shailene Woodley (who actually got herself arrested at the site for inciting a riot), The Reverend Jesse Jackson, Jane Fonda, Susan Sarandon, Mark Ruffalo, Patton Oswalt, Lawrence O’Donnell, Josh Fox, Leonardo DiCaprio, Bernie Sanders, Rosario Dawson, Samuel L. Jackson, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans.

There are many more, but you get the point. As of this writing, the total contribution made by these celebrities to the cleanup effort is zero. If any of this surprises you, you haven’t been paying attention.

Follow me on Twitter at @GDBlackmon
 
Johnnny
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Although not that "interesting", this news release is kinda a big deal. In our lifetimes, the chances of seeing a Mars mission and the evidence of a 2nd earth are really good.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Interesting that NASA schedules this announcement at the same time the army, national guard, Morton County police and DAPL security surround and arrest natives at the protest camps so that none of the MSM are there to film it.
We can't take care of our own planet and we treat people who don't think like us with contempt and brutality. The only reason why aliens would come here would be to annihilate our disgust species.

They only arrested those who refused to leave once the order was given, Cliffy. Leaving their filth, waste, vehicles, mounds of food, tents, rubbermaid containers, dirty diapers, cookstoves, tents, clothing, propane bottles, camp beds, mounds of plastic water bottles etc. etc. etc. etc behind, the majority left singing and chanting and having a good old time - probably happy as hell to get out of that sodden, stinking cesspit that they had created in their eagerness to show what wonderful 'water protectors' they truly were - NOT.

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

Is these planets had orbited a K, G or F star then i would be super excited...

Why? Would that bring then closer to Earth? More accessible in the long term?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

Although not that "interesting", this news release is kinda a big deal. In our lifetimes, the chances of seeing a Mars mission and the evidence of a 2nd earth are really good.

In '72 as I watch the last Apollo mission Kronkite promised I'd be living in a village on the moon some 17 years ago.

44 years later and all I have is Google maps founded upon Soviet spy maps.

Well la dee da f-cking da.
 
Bar Sinister
#17
I wouldn't get too exited about it. In our solar system Mars and Venus are in the so-called Cinderella zone.

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

Is these planets had orbited a K, G or F star then i would be super excited...

It will probably do. It is a Class M star with a lifespan of about 10 trillion years. That means it might be around long enough for us to reach it.
 
Jinentonix
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Kind of cool but nothing to get over excited about. It takes a lot more than just a temperate zone and liquid water for life to be able to thrive. How active is the solar system? The article says it's still young so there could still be lots of fun stuff bombarding the planets.

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

Although not that "interesting", this news release is kinda a big deal. In our lifetimes, the chances of seeing a Mars mission and the evidence of a 2nd earth are really good.

I'd agree with the latter. However I'd say that the chances of seeing a successful manned mission to Mars in our lifetime are not that great.

And here's why. First off, we already know how dangerous exploration can be. Many have died exploring our own planet. But there's a difference. We evolved to survive and thrive in our earth environment, so even if something went terribly wrong, there was still a chance of surviving. There is no environment off this planet that we know of that anyone could survive in if something went terribly wrong.
I think we're making a HUGE mistake making all these big plans for Mars when we haven't even taken the first, most important step yet, setting up a colony on the moon. Yeah, the moon is boring in a been there done that kind of way, but since they're both pretty friggin' hostile to life if something goes wrong with life support, why not start on the moon? We can make sure we know wtf we're doing while working out any bugs or other issues before going to Mars and still be close enough that if things start to go south, there's at least a chance of rescue.
 
Curious Cdn
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At 39 light years distance, they'll be catching transmissions with KC and the Sunshine Band, right about now and they'll turn their telescopes away from us and look elsewhere for signs of intelligent life.
 
selfsame
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

We need to find out what their refugee policy is like.


Nasa's 'holy grail': Entire solar system that could support alien life discovered

Scientists have found a new solar system filled with planets that look like Earth and could support life, Nasa has announced.

At least three of the seven planets represent the “holy grail for planet-hunting astronomers”, because they sit within the “temperate zone” and are the right temperature to allow alien life to flourish, the researchers have said. And they are capable of having oceans, again suggesting that life could flourish on them.

No other star system has ever been found to contain so many Earth-sized and rocky planets, of the kind thought to be necessary to contain aliens.

The researchers might soon be able to find evidence of life on the planets, they have said. British astronomer Dr Chris Copperwheat, from Liverpool John Moores University, who was part of the international team, said: “The discovery of multiple rocky planets with surface temperatures which allow for liquid water make this amazing system an exciting future target in the search for life."

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Damned their intellect .. damned ..
why do people believe anything told to them by NASA or the like?

I say: the nearby planets like Venus and Mars and they are not certain about them, then what about planets 39 LIGHT YEARS FROM THE EARTH

So they are like the earth in size? seven planets like the earth in size! How could they be the same size, and they most probably include water and life! While the nearby Mars does not include water and does not include living beings! according to their claims.

Here I remember a historical joke, and it may not be a trustworthy story:

Quraish tribesmen went to the uncle of Prophet Mohammed who constantly protected him, and they said to him: "We propose to give you this young guy: Walid who is a handsome and nice looking gentleman, and in return deliver Mohammed to us!"

He said: "I give Mohammed to you and what will you do to him?"

They said: "We kill him!"

Mohammed's uncle said to them: "What foolish you are, so away with your minds and wisdom! So that you suggest I give you my son so as to kill him, while you give to me your son that I may grow him for you!"
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coldstream
#21
100,000 years travel away at current technologies.. absent the development of Warp Speed. I'm looking towards a Mars Base.
 
selfsame
#22
It is not improbable that they say such things only to divert the attention of people from Mars bearing life and including water in addition to its excellent atmosphere better than the atmosphere of the earth.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

It is not improbable that they say such things only to divert the attention of people from Mars bearing life and including water in addition to its excellent atmosphere better than the atmosphere of the earth.

Hey selfie............welcome back. I see that your grasp of space matters is about on par with that of other topics, but keep trying sweetie.

 
spaminator
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Scientists find 7 Earth-size worlds orbiting star
Marcia Dunn, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 02:19 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:24 AM EST
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — For the first time, astronomers have discovered seven Earth-size planets orbiting a single nearby star — and these new worlds could hold life.
This cluster of planets is less than 40 light-years away in the constellation Aquarius, according to NASA and the Belgian-led research team who announced the discovery Wednesday.
The planets circle tightly around a dim dwarf star called Trappist-1, barely the size of Jupiter. Three are in the so-called habitable zone, the area around a star where water and, possibly life, might exist. The others are right on the doorstep.
Scientists said they need to study the atmospheres before determining whether these rocky, terrestrial planets could support some sort of life. But it already shows just how many Earth-size planets could be out there — especially in a star’s sweet spot, ripe for extraterrestrial life. The more planets like this, the greater the potential of finding one that’s truly habitable. Until now, only two or three Earth-size planets had been spotted around a star. A rocky Earth-sized world inside a star’s habitable zone is considered the best candidate for finding evidence of life.
“We’ve made a crucial step toward finding if there is life out there,” said the University of Cambridge’s Amaury Triaud, one of the researchers.
The potential for more Earth-size planets in our Milky Way galaxy is mind-boggling. The history of planet-searching shows “when there’s one, there’s more,” said Massachusetts Institute of Technology astrophysicist Sara Seager.
“With this amazing system, we know that there must be many more potentially life-bearing worlds out there just waiting to be found,” she said.
NASA’s Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for the science mission, said the discovery “gives us a hint that finding a second Earth is not just a matter of if, but when,” and addresses the age-old question of “Are we alone out there?”
“We’re making a step forward with this, a leap forward in fact, toward answering that question,” Zurbuchen said at a news conference.
Last spring, the University of Liege’s Michael Gillon and his team reported finding three planets around Trappist-1. Now the count is up to seven, and Gillon said there could be more. Their latest findings appear in the journal Nature.
This crowded yet compact solar system — 235 trillion miles away — is reminiscent of Jupiter and its Galilean moons, according to the researchers.
Picture this: If Trappist-1 were our sun, all seven planets would be inside Mercury’s orbit. Mercury is the innermost planet of our own solar system.
The ultracool star at the heart of this system would shine 200 times dimmer than our sun, a perpetual twilight as we know it. And the star would glow red — maybe salmon-colored, the researchers speculate.
“The spectacle would be beautiful because every now and then, you would see another planet, maybe about as big as twice the moon in the sky, depending on which planet you’re on and which planet you look at,” Triaud said Tuesday in a teleconference with reporters.
Years are exceedingly short in this star system — the planets take just 1 1/2 to 20 days to orbit Trappist-1.
The Leiden Observatory’s Ignas Snellen, who was not involved in the study, is excited by the prospect of learning more about what he calls “the seven sisters of planet Earth.” In a companion article in Nature, he said Gillon’s team could have been lucky in nabbing so many terrestrial planets in one stellar swoop.
“But finding seven transiting Earth-sized planets in such a small sample suggests that the solar system with its four (sub-) Earth-sized planets might be nothing out of the ordinary,” Snellen wrote.
Altogether, astronomers have confirmed close to 3,600 planets outside our solar system since the 1990s, but barely four dozen are in the potential habitable zone of their stars, and of those, just 18 are approximately the size of Earth.
Gillon and his team used both ground and space telescopes to identify and track the seven Trappist-1 planets, which they label simply by lowercase letters, “b” through “h.” As is typical in these cases, the letter “A” — in upper case — is reserved for the star. Planets cast shadows on their star as they pass in front of it; that’s how the scientists spotted them.
Tiny, cold stars like Trappist-1 were long shunned by exoplanet-hunters (exoplanets are those outside our solar system). But the Belgian astronomers decided to seek them out, building a telescope in Chile to observe 60 of the closest ultracool dwarf stars. Their Trappist telescope lent its name to this star.
While faint, the Trappist-1 star is close by cosmic standards, allowing astronomers to study the atmospheres of its seven temperate planets. All seven look to be solid like Earth — mostly rocky and possibly icy, too.
They all appear to be tidally locked, which means the same side continually faces the star, just like the same side of our moon always faces us. Life could still exist at these places, the researchers explained.
“Here, if life managed to thrive and releases gases similar to that that we have on Earth, then we will know,” Triaud said.
Chemical analyses should indicate life with perhaps 99 per cent confidence, Gillon noted. But he added: “We will never be completely sure” without going there.

wwwyoutubecomwatchvbnKFaAS30X8


Scientists find 7 Earth-size worlds orbiting star | World | News | Toronto Sun

I was watching a show on tv in which some scientists think that there maybe moons and planets on the opposite side of the sun.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

We need to find out what their refugee policy is like.


Nasa's 'holy grail': Entire solar system that could support alien life discovered

Scientists have found a new solar system filled with planets that look like Earth and could support life, Nasa has announced.

At least three of the seven planets represent the “holy grail for planet-hunting astronomers”, because they sit within the “temperate zone” and are the right temperature to allow alien life to flourish, the researchers have said. And they are capable of having oceans, again suggesting that life could flourish on them.

No other star system has ever been found to contain so many Earth-sized and rocky planets, of the kind thought to be necessary to contain aliens.

The researchers might soon be able to find evidence of life on the planets, they have said. British astronomer Dr Chris Copperwheat, from Liverpool John Moores University, who was part of the international team, said: “The discovery of multiple rocky planets with surface temperatures which allow for liquid water make this amazing system an exciting future target in the search for life."

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So how is it that these clowns at NASA konow what temperatrure these hypothetical aliens thrive at? NASA is fake news. They don't know how this solar system works.

NASA in the sixties produced most of the real science fiction, all the liftoffs were televised the astronauts celebrated the nimperial feel good hype elevated. I'v never been to the moon myself and I still can't buy a ticket. I think that's odd.

Five decades later, now flights no resturaunts no casinos. Where's the progress? They suck at climate as well. Maybe spaceX will offer tourist packages soon. Just to be able to get off this planet for a bit.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

100,000 years travel away at current technologies.. absent the development of Warp Speed. I'm looking towards a Mars Base.

If the sun will melt the earth in about 3.6B years I doubt mars is going to be the long term solution. Live hard/ die when nature says so.
 
petros
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Life is a rock eating parasite. No biggie. You aren't the Princesses your mom said you are.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by mhzView Post

if the sun will melt the earth in about 3.6b years i doubt mars is going to be the long term solution. Live hard/ die when nature says so.

Nature says so, now!!!

Are you listening?


Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

So how is it that these clowns at NASA konow what temperatrure these hypothetical aliens thrive at? NASA is fake news. They don't know how this solar system works.

NASA in the sixties produced most of the real science fiction, all the liftoffs were televised the astronauts celebrated the nimperial feel good hype elevated. I'v never been to the moon myself and I still can't buy a ticket. I think that's odd.

Five decades later, now flights no resturaunts no casinos. Where's the progress? They suck at climate as well. Maybe spaceX will offer tourist packages soon. Just to be able to get off this planet for a bit.

I'm sure that you know a whole lot more than those clowns at NASA ever will.

Thank you for putting us straight.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Nature says so, now!!!

Are you listening?




I'm sure that you know a whole lot more than those clowns at NASA ever will.

Thank you for putting us straight.

 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

They've finally found a safe position for Kellyanne Conway, I see.
 

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