How Many People Can The Earth Support?

grainfedpraiboy

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“It took until about 1800 or 1825 to put the first billion people on the planet. We added the most recent billion in 12 or 13 years. We anticipate two billion more by 2050.”


That’s Joel Cohen, head of the Laboratory of Populations at Rockefeller University in New York. He spoke February 20th at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C. So how many people can the Earth hold?


“In the last half century, people have estimated human-carrying capacities for the Earth that have ranged from less than one billion to more than a trillion. They can’t all be right. In fact, those numbers are political numbers, not scientific numbers. Because the question how many people can the earth support is an incomplete question, and doesn’t take account of with what technologies, at what average level of well-being, with what distribution of income, with what political and economic institutions.”


So what is your opinion? Do you have a number in mind and how did you come to your conclusion?
 

petros

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There is no shortage of land for food. There is no overpopulation. We don't need to decide who reproduces and who doesn't
 

JLM

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There is no shortage of land for food. There is no overpopulation. We don't need to decide who reproduces and who doesn't


I think lack of water is what will eventually do us in. (But there's still a lot of ice to melt first)
 

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It would depends on the resources they use. Some people use more and some people use less. Some resources replenish slower or faster than their use and so over time the Earth's carrying capacity increases or decreases. You couldn't support today's population with 18th century technology and you can't support today's population with today's rate of consumption indefinitely.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It would depends on the resources they use. Some people use more and some people use less. Some resources replenish slower or faster than their use and so over time the Earth's carrying capacity increases or decreases. You couldn't support today's population with 18th century technology and you can't support today's population with today's rate of consumption indefinitely.
Perhaps you can. Why can we now support 7 billion? Better technology. Presumably technology will continue to improve, and as a bunch of us fascist bastards have said, we have all the matter and all the energy we've ever had. All we need to do is figure out new and better ways to exploit them.
 

JLM

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I guess it all depends on the expectations of lifestyle levels.

Perhaps you can. Why can we now support 7 billion? Better technology. Presumably technology will continue to improve, and as a bunch of us fascist bastards have said, we have all the matter and all the energy we've ever had. All we need to do is figure out new and better ways to exploit them.

Support 7 billion??????????????????????????? From what I can gather 5 or 10 thousand are dying of starvation every day!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I guess it all depends on the expectations of lifestyle levels.



Support 7 billion??????????????????????????? From what I can gather 5 or 10 thousand are dying of starvation every day!
Try wrapping your head around the difference between "can" and "do."
 

JLM

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Thanks to ???

There's little doubt that the thousand richest people in the world could band together to eliminate the situation without lowering their lifestyle to any great extent. Mind you out of the thousand there's likely a handful who are doing their share.
 

petros

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There's little doubt that the thousand richest people in the world could band together to eliminate the situation without lowering their lifestyle to any great extent. Mind you out of the thousand there's likely a handful who are doing their share.

How do the top 1000 eliminate war, commie oppression, religious oppression, tribal crap, despots, debutantes, savages and the Botswanan plot to take over the world?
 

JLM

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How do the top 1000 eliminate war, commie oppression, religious oppression, tribal crap, despots, debutantes, savages and the Botswanan plot to take over the world?

That stuff comes after they are well fed. One thing at a time.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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There's little doubt that the thousand richest people in the world could band together to eliminate the situation without lowering their lifestyle to any great extent. Mind you out of the thousand there's likely a handful who are doing their share.
Of course they could. What's their motivation?