How Wolves Change Rivers
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Yes, but most people think we are separate from ecosystems, though, as if somehow we are special, that destroying whole systems has no adverse affect on us. On the coast it is the relationship between salmon and bears that create the ecosystems through the bears distributing the salmon throughout the forest. People "managing" forests don't take that onto consideration when planning their tree plantations in clearcuts. When we alter vast areas of wilderness through "development" we alter climate and weather, then complain about extreme weather.
Should we do what the Natives did Cliffy?
Was it the wolf or was it fire?
Yellowstone fires of 1988 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Was it the wolf or was it fire?
Yellowstone fires of 1988 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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So the natives were right by torching the forest to kill a handful of deer and let the wolves clean up the rest of the dead?
Sure wasn't this silly Brit. Where do they come from.........yah, well..............The deer are elk. Guy is a fukking twit.
When coyote numbers on the prairie exploded people figured it would reduce the mouse and gopher population. Guess what happened? Hawk and eagle numbers went up.
Coyote pups are easier for the raptors to catch than rabbits and hares.
Still sh*loads of mice voles moles rats and gophers.
Ain't nature cool. If we torched the prairie to kill 20 buffalo.....
Coyote pups are easier for the raptors to catch than rabbits and hares.
Still sh*loads of mice voles moles rats and gophers.
Ain't nature cool. If we torched the prairie to kill 20 buffalo.....
Yes. I live in a prime example. The Arrow Lakes are part of the Columbia River. The climate has radically changed since they dammed the river at Castlegar creating a 200 km. long reservoir. We used to live in an interior rain forest similar to the BC coast but now we get less than 1/4 the rain and snow we used to, the river no longer freezes and the old species of rain forest trees, like cedar and hemlock, are dying off, ground water levels are dropping.
What is wrong with what he said? A good number of climate deniers have latched onto this very notion. Urban heat islands exist because of land use changes caused by development...climate scientists know this and even compensate by using rural stations to fill in their grids...
But it has nothing to do with quadrupling the water volume of the Columbia river? The water level was raised by 70 feet. The surface area of the lakes was more than doubled. There is hardly any part of the Columbia that runs as a river any more. Most of it is behind massive dams. One of the world's largest interior salmon fisheries has be eliminated which also altered the flora and fauna of the region.
Proving that nothing stays the same. The river was not always there, the mountains were not always there and the flora and fauna were not always there. The history of this planet is catastrophic change and mass exterminations and it always bounced back and it always will. Have a little faith Cliffy.We will not win in the end.
Another example of how we can screw things up when we upset the ecological balance, which happened when the wolves were hunted to extinction in the area.