Some scary oil-drilling warnings and stuff

Locutus

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An increase in oil drilling has resulted in an increased destabilization of the Earth's core, which is causing more earthquakes

Oil, Gas Drilling Seems To Make The Earth Slip And Go Boom : NPR

 

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Better stop drilling wells too eh if we did holes in the ground we have to pile
the dirt up and that will cause the weight difference and WE'RE ALL GONNA
DIE maybe
 

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Just more scaremongering, brought to you by the same people who told us in all seriousness that Britain would fall behind an economically vibrant eurozone if it didn't adopt the euro; that the Arctic ice cap would disappear by 2013; and that the Tory-led cuts, necessary because the previous left wing socialist government spent all the money and then spent money we didn't have, would lead to riots and widespread civil unrest.

What nonsense. Isn't it funny how millennia of mining didn't destabilise the Earth's crust and cause earthquakes?

Exploratary fracking was said by the anti-frackers to have caused two earthquakes in Blackpool in 2010. They say it's a good reason not to have fracking in the UK. Never mind that the Blackpool earthquakes only measured about 2 on the Richter Scale and all they did was rattle a few chimney pots and give the people on the Pleasure Beach an extra free thrill and that Blackpool will continue to have earthquakes now and then with or without fracking.

Northern England alone is sitting on 1300 trillion cubic feet of shale gas, enough to power the UK for 40 years. We should get fracking and, thankfully, the Tory-majority part of the coalition government are in favour of it.
 
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Blackpool before fracking...



Blackpool after fracking...




Or so the anti-frackers would have you believe.
 

L Gilbert

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Found the article the NPR story was talking about here, the journal article is pay-walled though:
Distant earthquakes trigger tremors at U.S. waste-injection sites, says study -- ScienceDaily
Yes. Unfortunately, I did not renew my subscription to Science as it is pretty expensive and I can get pretty much the same news from a couple other sources that are less expensive and I am pulling partial double duty here. (Wifey blew out her left rotator cuff).
That is a bit different than drilling, which is what the OP and NPR were gibbering about. Enhanced Remote Earthquake Triggering at Fluid-Injection Sites in the Midwestern United States
 

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Yes. Unfortunately, I did not renew my subscription to Science as it is pretty expensive and I can get pretty much the same news from a couple other sources that are less expensive and I am pulling partial double duty here. (Wifey blew out her left rotator cuff).
That is a bit different than drilling, which is what the OP and NPR were gibbering about. Enhanced Remote Earthquake Triggering at Fluid-Injection Sites in the Midwestern United States

It's just crappy communication. Buried halfway down the NPR article is this:
Outside Texas, people are hearing those booms as well, often in states where there's been an upsurge in drilling and the use of disposal wells to store drilling waste.

The issue seems to be the waste stored undergound at high pressure. Larger quakes trigger the smaller ones in drilling areas due to the pressure on the fault lines from the waste stored deep. It's interesting to note that one of the co-authors on the Science paper is affiliated with the ConocoPhillips School of Geology and Geophysics.

Found a copy:
http://psbweb.co.kern.ca.us/UtilityPages/Planning/EIRS/mckittrick_landfill/Vol5/van%20der%20Elst%202013_Enhanced%20remote%20Earthqake%20Triggering%20at%20fluid-Injection%20Sites.pdf
 

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Old oil wells are filled with water.

This is as retarded as those who claim drilling San Andreas is going to make California fall into the Pacific.
 

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I would love to see fracking in your back yard, your well water taste like gas, the air around your home smell like gas and your foundation crack from small earth quakes and when you start bitching about the problem Petros attack you

There are 36000 frakked wells in my backyard and not a single issue. Why not?
 

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I would love to see fracking in your back yard, your well water taste like gas, the air around your home smell like gas and your foundation crack from small earth quakes and when you start bitching about the problem Petros attack you
lol I see you still haven't grown up (as per my prediction).

It's just crappy communication. Buried halfway down the NPR article is this:
Outside Texas, people are hearing those booms as well, often in states where there's been an upsurge in drilling and the use of disposal wells to store drilling waste.

The issue seems to be the waste stored undergound at high pressure. Larger quakes trigger the smaller ones in drilling areas due to the pressure on the fault lines from the waste stored deep. It's interesting to note that one of the co-authors on the Science paper is affiliated with the ConocoPhillips School of Geology and Geophysics.
Yes, that makes more sense than the idea that drilling causes earthquakes.

There are 36000 frakked wells in my backyard and not a single issue. Why not?
Um, geeeeez, Pete, perhaps because there are no faults around you.
 

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No faults? Are you serious?

Seismic activity in the prairie region south of 60 N is predominantly confined to southern Saskatchewan in a zone that continues into Montana. The largest earthquake ever recorded in this area was a magnitude 5.5 event on May 15, 1909 near the Canada - United States border. Small, induced earthquakes associated with potash mining in southern Saskatchewan are sometimes recorded
 

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No faults? Are you serious?
Well, excuse me for being ignorant about the area you are in. I bet there are things about my area you don't know, too. Are you serious? :rolleyes:

Seismic activity in the prairie region south of 60 N is predominantly confined to southern Saskatchewan in a zone that continues into Montana. The largest earthquake ever recorded in this area was a magnitude 5.5 event on May 15, 1909 near the Canada - United States border. Small, induced earthquakes associated with potash mining in southern Saskatchewan are sometimes recorded
So? Has there been oil-drilling in this area? And if so, how can they tell between quakes induced by oil-drilling and those induced by potash mining?