Thinking about Photon.

[socratus]

Thinking about Photon.
1
When photon moves at light of speed
( about 299 792 458 m/s .c=1) then photon itself shrinks into
a flat geometrical figure ( light - photon doesn't shrink outside
distance, road or spacetime )
Conclusion:
According to SRT photon is not a firm particle,
it can change its geometrical form.
2
When photon moves at light of speed ( about 299 792 458 m/s. c=1 )
its own time is zero ( infinite )
Question:
Where does the ours known time come from?
3
Gravity can change the straight movement of photon,
Question:
Where does the gravity comefrom?
4
In which reference frame photon moves, if gravity
( as Sun and many others outside gravity objects )
can change photon's movement ?
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[petros]

Where does the gravity come from?

 

[Cliffy]

What is the light of speed?

 

[petros]

What is the light of speed?

A +D squared + H = ?

 

[Cliffy]

A +D squared + H = ?

I thought maybe socratus is just lysdexic.

(or is it ADHD?)

 

[petros]

+/-H at high moon

It sure looks like high moon.

 

[socratus]

1
Moon, Sun and many others gravity objects exist in a vacuum
2
One postulate of SRT says that the speed of photon
in the vacuum ( !!! ) is constant c=1.
3
Then on the one hand, as a peasant, I think that photon must move
in the vacuum, but on the other hand physicists talk me the photon
moves in the negative 4D Minkowski space = spacetime.
And nobody explain me what spacetimr really is.
Then it seems to me that I find myself in a church or synagogue.
And I never could understand the priest or rabbi even
they are scientists with PhD in their pockets.
=.

 

[darkbeaver]

I will explain space time for you. If you take an empty pickle bottle (keep the lid close at hand) and hold it at arms length in horizontal orientation while you spin like a top at no less than seven RPM per second for approximately twenty revolutions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no that.s not it.
I'm sorry I thought I knew what it was right up until I started to explain it.

 

[socratus]

I will explain space time for you.
If you take an empty pickle bottle (keep the lid close at hand) and hold it at arms
length in horizontal orientation while you spin like a top at no less than seven
RPM per second for approximately twenty revolutions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no that.s not it.
I'm sorry I thought I knew what it was right up until I started to explain it.

Don't worry, maybe next time you will explain me what spacetime universe is
and what space and time universe is
and what is physical difference and interaction between them.
Anyway i thank you for trying to help me.
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[L Gilbert]

lol Warped Space-Time Around Black Holes Visualized | Physicists See Black Holes Merging | General Relativity | LiveScience

Ever heard of Google, Soc? Where Does Gravity Come From

 

[darkbeaver]

Don't worry, maybe next time you will explain me what spacetime universe is
and what space and time universe is
and what is physical difference and interaction between them.
Anyway i thank you for trying to help me.
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If you run across a reasonable explanation please post it here.

 

[Cliffy]

Space and time, especially time, are human concepts and perceptions. Animals have no concept of time. Time is the leading cause of fear of death. Animals don't fear death. Space is a visual perception of the human mind. Animals see differently than humans, more in the infrared and ultra violet ranges. They have a different sense of depth perception.

 

[L Gilbert]

Space and time, especially time, are human concepts and perceptions.

Proof?

Animals have no concept of time.

Humans are animals. But anyway, omitting humans, how would you know? Our dogs sure as hell know when it's mealtime, playtime, etc. So do the cats.

Time is the leading cause of fear of death.

lol I dunno bout the fear part, but yeah, we get old as we travel through time and then we die.

Animals don't fear death.

Humans are animals. But anyway, there goes the concept of survival instinct in animals.

Space is a visual perception of the human mind.

Ah, so only humans can sense distance between objects and other animals cannot.

Animals see differently than humans, more in the infrared and ultra violet ranges. They have a different sense of depth perception.

Some see better some don't. Different species have different traits. No mystery there.

 

[darkbeaver]

Time is a constant because it's a concept but all the other alleged constants are not constant because they are material, which is always undergoing adjustment in the electromagnetic field, that adjustment is constantly variable.

 

[L Gilbert]

I missed this:

And nobody explain me what spacetimr really is.

So...... Gravity Probe B - Special & General Relativity Questions and Answers

You really should learn about Google, Soc.

Time is a constant because it's a concept but all the other alleged constants are not constant because they are material, which is always undergoing adjustment in the electromagnetic field, that adjustment is constantly variable.

Apparently facts aren't really facts because of "adjustments" to the EM brains as well.

 

[darkbeaver]

I missed this:
So...... Gravity Probe B - Special & General Relativity Questions and Answers

You really should learn about Google, Soc.

Apparently facts aren't really facts because of "adjustments" to the EM brains as well.

We should submit a proposal to conduct a study and write a report. I will be acting administrator and chief CEO BSO & special overseas envoy to some nice island in the Mediterrainian. You can make sure the lights are out when you leave.

 

[L Gilbert]

We should submit a proposal to conduct a study and write a report. I will be acting administrator and chief CEO BSO & special overseas envoy to some nice island in the Mediterrainian. You can make sure the lights are out when you leave.

You can if you wish. I have to wash my hair, dear.

 

[socratus]

I missed this:
So...... Gravity Probe B - Special & General Relativity Questions and Answers

You really should learn about Google, Soc.

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The theory of gravity must begin from quantum gravity,
But we have not theory of quantum gravity.
" Such objects cannot be understood with current modelsof
quantum mechanics,nor can they be explained by general relativity.
This situation highly motivates the search for a theory of quantum gravity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_gravity
They look for such theory and therefore you can find
many theories about this subject..
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My opinion.
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To create theory of gravity (quantum gravity ) is needed
a mass , an energy and a reference frame where the gravity can be born.
The reference frame is a vacuum.
The condition of mass is E=kT
The condition of energy is E=h*f
Then the process of beginning ofgravitation can have scheme:
hv = kT logW.
hv > kT logW.
hv < kT .

About which mass am I talking ?
At first I am talking about verystrange element helium II
( because its temperature very near toabsolute zero ) and
then about the second layer heliumI.
Later this system begins torevolve.
And again the revolving helium is very different from allanother liquid.
This explanation were given by
P. Kapitza , L. Landau and E.L. Andronikashvili .
=.
Somewhere I wrote more about quantum gravity.
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[socratus]

1
Einstein's GRT is math-geometrical theory.
It doesn't explain which particles create gravity.
2
Gravity in the 11( or maybe 27) dimensions space
perhaps is interesting math theory but it doesn't
describe which particles create gravity.
3
CERN creates cold kingdom in hope to find Higgs boson
which ' is responsible for all the mass in theuniverse '.
4
I say that the vacuum ( space between billions and billions galaxies)
is cold kingdom T=0K. And then thinking logically the first element
which can be created from vacuum must behelium II and helium I
But in Alice's Wonderland a simple logical thought is sounded strange.
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[socratus]

In which reference frame the photon exist?
Nobody gives answer and therefore someone wrote:
' If you try to search for 'reference frame ' for the photon
'emission & re-emission', you will find only some
'Quantum-Mechanics' Mumbo jumbo and very little else.'
My answer.
When the quantum of light moves with the constant speed c=1
the time for him is ‘frozen’ - stopped. Time doesn’t exist for him.
In the other words, he has eternal time.
It means that the reference frame where the quantum of light moves
also must be eternal, absolute.
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