Banish These Drug Dealers (& such) To Where?


Ron in Regina
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FSIN chief OK with drug dealers being banished from Saskatchewan reserves

Link: FSIN chief OK with drug dealers being banished from Saskatchewan reserves | Regina Leader-Post (external - login to view)


Link: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...g-dealers.html



Banishing drug dealers from First Nations is OK with the

chief overseeing 74 Saskatchewan Indian bands.


Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations Chief Bobby Cameron

said that if First Nations go to a referendum and vote in favour of

banishing people who are harming youth by selling illegal drugs

and alcohol, he will support that.



Some First Nations in Saskatchewan are already doing just that.



Last month, Makwa Sahgaiehcan First Nation’s council and elders

came to the decision to banish six non-band members from its

lands and issue “first and final warnings” to approximately 20

band members in response to a growing crystal methamphetamine

problem.


That came after the band spent more than a year trying to contain

the drug, which exploded in popularity.



When asked if banishments were something he he would like to see

happen on all of Saskatchewan’s First Nations, Cameron said it was

a good question.



“If it means getting rid of drug dealers, sure. You’re darn rights. If it

means not losing any more youth to alcohol and drugs, you bet I do,”

he said......


Blah blah blah....Yada yada yada...rest of the article at the above LINK.






So, Banish these Clowns to where? Dump them in who's back yard?

So if these folks are banished from these reservations, who gets to
take them? Think of this dumping on a provincial or national level.
would it fly?
 
lone wolf
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Corrections Canada?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post


So if these folks are banished from these reservations, who gets to
take them? Think of this dumping on a provincial or national level.
would it fly?

North Central in Regina and a West Side Saskatoon. Where else?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Toronto.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Toronto.

Perfect
 
Machjo
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Selling a narcotic should be treated as equivalent to manslaughter.

Unless for a valid medical reason as prescribed by at least two physicians. I say at least two to ensure a second opinion.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Selling a narcotic should be treated as equivalent to manslaughter.

Be a lot of pharmacists in prison.
 
Johnnny
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Damn near the whole La Ronge reserve is made up mostly of drug dealers....
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Selling a narcotic should be treated as equivalent to manslaughter.

Unless for a valid medical reason as prescribed by at least two physicians. I say at least two to ensure a second opinion.

That's what it takes. Only specialists can Rx opiods. Family Dr's can't any longer.
 
Cannuck
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Put up a wall around them
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

Damn near the whole La Ronge reserve is made up mostly of drug dealers....

And people say Indians don't want to work. . .
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Be a lot of pharmacists in prison.

I corrected too slowly. Read above.

A friend's best friend died from a heroin of just a few months ago. I'd met her last year, good person. She did suffer mental health problems I learnt later, mainly depression. Her boyfriend broke up with her and took advantage of her financially before doing so to the tune if around 20k. She took it hard, somehow ended up meeting heroin users, and started using to numb the pain. Apparently she went from non-user to dead by OD in not even a year. She left a son behind too.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

I corrected too slowly. Read above.

A friend's best friend died from a heroin of just a few months ago. I'd met her last year, good person. She did suffer mental health problems I learnt later, mainly depression. Her boyfriend broke up with her and took advantage of her financially before doing so to the tune if around 20k. She took it hard, somehow ended up meeting heroin users, and started using to numb the pain. Apparently she went from non-user to dead by OD in not even a year. She left a son behind too.

Kinda funny how you want the whole system changed every time one of your friends loses. Or wins.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Kinda funny how you want the whole system changed every time one of your friends loses. Or wins.

People, people, people! This is not about Macho. This is about the wall.
 
Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

So, Banish these Clowns to where? Dump them in who's back yard?

So if these folks are banished from these reservations, who gets to
take them? Think of this dumping on a provincial or national level.
would it fly?

I know it's a douche move to quote myself, but ponder this one...

Lets say Ontario, not Misc SK Reservations, decides it's going to
just banish criminals from Ontario. Not deport them, but just push
them to the borders of Manitoba & Quebec, and not allow them to
come back to Ontario? How would that fly? What does that solve,
especially for Manitoba & Quebec?

Its not like this hasn't been done before. I've watched "Scarface"
back in the day. Castro emptied his prisons & boated their arses
off to Florida. Enjoy Florida! You're Welcome!!
 
petros
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ON would still be a sh-t hole.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

ON would still be a sh-t hole.

It already is
 
petros
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Still be...
 
Ron in Regina
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What I'm getting at is this. Government workers in the downtown core somewhere
complain that they have to wade through Junkies & Hookers when they leave work
at the end of the day. Then they commute miles out to the suburbs...

So the Hookers & Junkies get pushed over 15 blocks and up 8 blocks, and now
hang out around a public park and a schoolyard in the evening and through the
nights. Problem solved! Done Deal! Unless of coarse you live over 15 blocks
and up 8 blocks from that downtown core
, and your kids go to that school, and
play in that park, etc....

If you're going to Banish someone, you put them on a boat with seven bananas
and no paddle, tow them out to sea with one of Canada's diesel powered Subs
(if it's working that week), and turn them loose 'NOT' on someone else's door
step. Keep the paddles from the boat on the submarine in the event that the
sub needs help getting back to shore. That's Banishment, and not pushing the
problem off onto someone else.
 
petros
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Kicking them out of the Band cuts them off welfare.
 
bill barilko
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Quote:

Some First Nations in Saskatchewan are already doing just that.


BC reserves have been booting people out for a while now-drug dealing/poaching/sexually abusing children/generally being criminal vermin-they end up in the nearest town.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

BC reserves have been booting people out for a while now-drug dealing/poaching/sexually abusing children/generally being criminal vermin-they end up in the nearest town.

Living in an SRO with Cliffy.
 
Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Kicking them out of the Band cuts them off welfare.

Does it? Or does it kick them off 'that' welfare, and land them on 'this' welfare..?

Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

BC reserves have been booting people out for a while now-drug dealing/poaching/sexually abusing children/generally being criminal vermin-they end up in the nearest town.

And then what? They go straight, self support financially, and
become upstanding citizens? Or they just become someone
else's problem? Like the Hooker scenario above?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

Does it? Or does it kick them off 'that' welfare, and land them on 'this' welfare..?

Yup, that's the "point".
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Selling a narcotic should be treated as equivalent to manslaughter.

Unless for a valid medical reason as prescribed by at least two physicians. I say at least two to ensure a second opinion.

You would soon remove the whole medical profession.
 
bill barilko
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Kicking someone off the reserve doesn't mean they lose their 'treaty indian' status and/or whatever benefits accrue to them as members of that band I imagine that taking that away involves a lot of politics.

Have read some background on that over the years but it's not the sort of thing a person retains-it's just small town politics.

And as to where they end up take a drive through Port Alberni sometime......
 
Ron in Regina
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Google the words "North Central" and see what happens...

Here's a map: Community Crime Map – Regina Police Service (external - login to view)

North Central is the 'red' area and the fringe around it.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

Google the words "North Central" and see what happens...

Here's a map: Community Crime Map – Regina Police Service (external - login to view)

North Central is the 'red' area and the fringe around it.

Good frickin' grief Ron.............that's a war zone
 
petros
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Aaaaah bro.
 
Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

Good frickin' grief Ron.............that's a war zone

My time there was as a child and a teen. Ask Petros for the current 'skinny' on
North Central.
 
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