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Curiosity
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#31
Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDBView Post

Curiosity

Every effort to entertain a dialogue with China ends up the same....

"You don't understand/appreciate/consider/accept/embrace/swallow my rhetoric, displaying a weak/flawed/closed-minded/obstreperous/un-informed/non-sensical thought process."

What's the point in trying to "communicate" Curio?

Mikey

If there is no point in trying to communicate - why do you initiate?

China doesn't seek confrontation - only puts up thoughtful posts which may or may not make sense to others.

Whatever the response is - why insult him? I hardly think he is setting himself up for target practice and is probably upset with me for speaking up here.

People really are getting more cruel over the years - there are some posters who need putting down - I hardly think China deserves the treatment he receives. He doesn't have an aggressive manner at all.
 
Socrates the Greek
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#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter SinisterView Post

The space my thoughts create is full of love. That space contains my wife, my children, my siblings, my parents (both dead now, alas), my friends, my tribe, my nation, my planet... Love is probably the single largest component of it. I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either. My experience and understanding of life is that your opening statement is entirely and egregiously false.


Dexter, no he doesn’t make any sense, this guy China at one time he lived here in Canada and now I have seen him throwing rocks at Canada posting on this forum that Canadians are gutless and he is glad he doesn’t live here any more. What a loser!
 
darkbeaver
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#33
Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

China - I cannot respond right now because I am filled with the ugliness of the people here whose desire it is to put down everything you write - as if you have no place at this table. This is a forum welcoming all to share within guidelines of respect and civility.

There are some who read, whether we understand you or not - but appreciate your right to place thoughts here as are all welcomed - and the comedy of errors which follow your
posts are childish and cruel.

But that is humankind is it not - an interesting study in things not easily discussed by most therefore mocking is in order.

I know you understand and you need none of my sympathy - but I am aware you are presented with a struggle and hope you never accept these insignificant challenges or give them authenticity in debate.

Curio

Don't you dare include me with the shiftless rabble who have no greater calling than to dump on China. I am not one of them, I enjoy everyone of Chinas very thought provoking posts.
 
darkbeaver
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#34
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyerView Post

Have heart Curiosity....

It's raining, dreary here in Virginia. Just took a sip of cold coffee.

Humming along the cyber waves, vibing along and then along comes Zan's pair of cartoon bingle bangers and now my cold coffee is spilled on my lap and what was suspected all along about me is now confirmed. The blues oh they're calling me, but I can't sing dagnabit.

You need a thousand watt high pressure sodium grow light Jim, just for the dreary days.
 
Praxius
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#35
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Don't you dare include me with the shiftless rabble who have no greater calling than to dump on China. I am not one of them, I enjoy everyone of Chinas very thought provoking posts.

I honestly would too if there was a bit more of a background explaination to things. I have no personal beef with China and I have even agreed with a few things China has said in the past..... all I attempted to do was to understand what he was trying to explain, only to get petty/insulting comments in return..... which to me, takes away any and all logic and respect towards what he was originally attempting to share with us.
 
Socrates the Greek
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#36
Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

Mikey - is this called 'dialogue'? I don't understand. The tenor here is cruel. How does it gain anything? Have exchanges become contests of who can strip another down best?

Curiosity,
If you go back and look at some of Chinas posts you will see that he is the one who is knocking Canada telling everyone that he used to live here fo some 40 years and now he has gone back to China and he will never return because Canada is not the place for him “Canada has no guts” quote unquote. So the man is an idiot if that is how he wants to show friendliness here on this forum. He spreads ponerology and that will get him exactly what he is getting.
 
darkbeaver
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#37
Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

I honestly would too if there was a bit more of a background explaination to things. I have no personal beef with China and I have even agreed with a few things China has said in the past..... all I attempted to do was to understand what he was trying to explain, only to get petty/insulting comments in return..... which to me, takes away any and all logic and respect towards what he was originally attempting to share with us.

Here's what I do with Chinas deeper pieces. I print them off for after dark consideration beside the woodstove in the old shed where I smoke cannibis. I find this proceedure invariably reveals the deeper aspects of his work. I also apply the technique to many of the other posters here. When I don't understand a post I don't automatically jump to the conclusion thatthe poster is at fault, my experiance has been that as often as not it's me who fails to penetrate the veil.
 
Praxius
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#38
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Here's what I do with Chinas deeper pieces. I print them off for after dark consideration beside the woodstove in the old shed where I smoke cannibis. I find this proceedure invariably reveals the deeper aspects of his work. I also apply the technique to many of the other posters here. When I don't understand a post I don't automatically jump to the conclusion thatthe poster is at fault, my experiance has been that as often as not it's me who fails to penetrate the veil.

Hey, I smoked a crap load of weed, oil/hash and done enough LSD, Shrooms, Ex to probably cause something permanent to happen to my brain....

*shrugs* ....... but I still don't get it.
 
Praxius
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#39
And this is where someone comes in and posts "Oh, so that's what happened to you"

I already beat you to it.... I guess something did happen to my brain to predict the future... whoa.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

Hey, I smoked a crap load of weed, oil/hash and done enough LSD, Shrooms, Ex to probably cause something permanent to happen to my brain....

*shrugs* ....... but I still don't get it.

Hope you don't turn into Rick James
 
jimmoyer
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#41
LOL, I love the part where each eyeball hangs to the socket by a tenuous glop of string and then zings off.

I've seen this before, but I can't stop watching it.

In fact I have another window open watching it right now.

Please help me.
 
Praxius
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#42
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Hope you don't turn into Rick James

Naw most of the heavy stuff was done a few years back... just the green these days.... I even quit smoking tobacco recently.

(You know, they call them fingers, but I never seen them Fing before...... Whoa, there they go)
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

Naw most of the heavy stuff was done a few years back... just the green these days.... I even quit smoking tobacco recently.

Same here, more or less. Just tobacco and beer these days.
 
Tonington
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#44
My love is back in Nova Scotia, but I carry it with me everywhere. They can't charge you a luggage fee for that!
 
darkbeaver
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#45
Farewell to Nova Scotia
do you ever heave a sigh and a wish for me
 
talloola
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#46
I'm enjoying every 'roast' that is sent china's way. He is not innocent at all, he has much anger in him,
and it came my way on the day he called me 'stupid', and I see he did that again today, so, carry on
folks, roast away, I'm being entertained, and he is a big boy, doesn't need protecting like a child would,
he can take care of himself quite well. A wolf in sheeps clothing, I think is the saying.
Other than this post, I don't opine to his posts at all any more, but I do come in and read, and I will
continue to do so.
Last edited by talloola; May 9th, 2008 at 09:19 PM..
 
Praxius
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Farewell to Nova Scotia

Yeah... said the jobs.
 
china
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#48
Dexter Sinister ,

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Okay, your choice, but the alternative to knowledge is ignorance, and that's not a ticket to anywhere useful or interestin.

Thats the problem with you Dexter,you are full of knowledge ,you wouldn't surviave without it
You are correct when you say ..."okay , your choise " ,I was born with it and I'm living it for past 57years ,you dont have that free choice; you have exchanged that freedom for your knowledge,furthermore Dexter you can not go above what you know . Do you think Dexter that knowledge makes you wise ? I don't think so . "Knowledgeables" are worst bores on this earth. I don't have alot of knowledge ,but that doesn'tmean that I,m ignorant Dexter.Durring my 40+ ys in Canada I have done a lot for myslf and for other less fortunates ; while in business ,I hav met great number of people both in busness and political circles .Some of them are very close friends of mine .
All that time I have bin observing and learning Dexter ,learning from moment to moment ; every moment something new without accmulating the knowledge in order to "know"and become its prisnor. At the age 50 I have moved to China to open a new chapter of learning in my life.Is that ignorance Dexter.? Learning never stops Dexter , it is in the present , where the knowledge is past and there is nothing new in it.
the momenyt you say "I know" ,your brains stops learning ,think abot it .

will continue ...have a meeting
Last edited by china; May 10th, 2008 at 09:37 AM..
 
Sal
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#49
Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

I don't have alot of knowledge ,but that doesn'tmean that I,m ignorant Dexter.Durring my 40+ ys in Canada I have done a lot for myslf and for other less fortunates ;have met many exelent individuals in businesess and political circles .Some of them are close friends of mine .
All that time I have bin observing and learning Dexter ,learning from moment to moment ; every moment something new without accmulating the knowledge in order to "know"? At the age 50 I have moved to China to open a new chapter of learning in my life.Is that ignorance Dexter.?

China, if you are 57 and have been learning and observing and can take those observations and successfully apply them to life then you have knowledge plus the ability to use it.

Knowledge is to have awareness of isn't it?

If one is alive and aware of anything then one has knowledge be it limited or vast.

One may also be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time even about the same thing. We are dual. Due to many different variables, knowledge and ignorance exist simultaneously.
 
china
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#50
Praxius,

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. all I attempted to do was to understand what he was trying to explain, only to get petty/insulting comments in return..... which to me, takes away any and all logic and respect towards what he was originally attempting to share with us

I apologize for the insult Praxius .Please understand that I get also insulted with every response to my posts.
Regarding not answering your post:Starting in April I have Started my annual work ;I'm on the road most of the time ,different city evry day,parties meetings presntations ....my time ,private time ,time to my self is very limited , i mean minutes. Whenever I find some , I like to relax at my lap top.It my take some time but I will answer your post Praxius , Thanks
Last edited by china; May 10th, 2008 at 09:36 AM..
 
Dexter Sinister
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#51
Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

Thats the problem with you Dexter,you are full of knowledge ,you wouldn't surviave without it

No, it's not a problem, and I would survive without it, but I'd rather not.

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You are correct when you say ..."okay , your choise " ,I was born with it and I'm living it for past 57years ,you dont have that free choice; you have exchanged that freedom for your knowledge,furthermore Dexter you can not go above what you know

You seem to be suggesting that ignorance is a prerequisite for freedom. I can't imagine how that could work. It's knowledge that's liberating, not ignorance. I haven't exchanged freedom for knowledge, I've exchanged ignorance for knowledge, and I think I'm better off for it. My ignorance is still vast, of course, there is much I don't know or understand and never will, life's too short to find out everything I want to know, but at least that always give me something interesting to do. I have no idea what you mean when you say I can't go above what I know, but I suspect you think it means I'm incapable of learning anything new, which is not true. I learn new things every day.

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Do you think Dexter that knowledge makes you wise ?

Of course not. Knowledge is a necessary but not a sufficient conditiion for wisdom.

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I don't have a lot of knowledge ,but that doesn't mean that I,m ignorant

Actually, yes it does, by definition, that's exactly what it means. Ignorant means lacking in knowledge or training. Look it up.


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Learning never stops Dexter , it is in the present , where the knowledge is past and there is nothing new in it. the momenyt you say "I know" ,your brains stops learning ,think abot it .

Okay, I've thought about it, and I find that sentence to be incoherent. How is it possible that you can keep on learning yet find nothing new in the knowledge that gives you? Learning is the process of acquiring knowledge, isn't it? And if it's not, what is it?
 
china
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posted 2x ,getting tired I guess .
Last edited by china; May 10th, 2008 at 10:09 AM..
 
china
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#53
[QUOTE]China, if you are 57 and have been learning and observing and can take those observations and successfully apply them to life then you have knowledge plus the ability to use it/QUOTE]

Obviusly I have some knowledge of different things which are necessary for everyday living ,but Idon't make a big issue out of it.Things changefrom moment to moment ,nothing is permanent, knowledge is in the past ;ther is nothing new in knowledge .
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you have knowledge plus the ability to use it.

Well Sal ,whatI have learned is how to be in the right place at the right time .Trust me it's not knowledge .

Be baack soon
Knowledge is to have awareness of isn't it?

If one is alive and aware of anything then one has knowledge be it limited or vast.

One may also be knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time even about the same thing. We are dual. Due to many different variables, knowledge and ignorance exist simultaneously. __________________
 
Curiosity
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#54
So everyone here is allowed to express an opinion but China is berated for his?

Of course he doesn't need any help and if insult is the tenor of this forum....
 
MikeyDB
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Curiosity

You've been in California too long gal!

You aren't the arbiter of morality and haven't been asked by anyone to act as moderator. As difficult as it may be for you to believe, people frequently get the response they derserve and maybe even offer the opportunity to others to respond out of anger or fear or contempt...because that response is a reflection of how we may or may not accurately internalize the concepts and dialogue....

China has offered his opinions and his observations for a fairly long time on this discussion board and sometimes he gets a response and sometimes he doesn't...... I've not bothered to respond to his overtures because it seems a pointless exercise....and quess what ... that's my right. Just as it's the right of other folk to be critical and reflective of the subtle disdain that China's offered as "enlightenment" through his convoluted discourse....

Relax .......
 
Curiosity
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#56
Mikey

I apologized to China personally in a PM for getting involved. He has never requested it nor have I felt it necessary to offer my mixing in until this particular thread just took a nasty turn.

As if China was on trial and had no rights.

Over the past years I have fully enjoyed the complex queries China makes - but the people here seem to think he can be beaten into some kind of submission.

Should I remain silent so as not to win anyone's disapproval... or what you describe as 'subtle disdain' ha! Screw that son..... Look at your own signature by Burke...

I'm not moderating - never was my intent - only blown away by the cruelty of my superiors.

If you can't be bothered Mikey why do you show up? Enjoy watching the public hanging do you?
 
MikeyDB
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Curiosity

It may inform you a little my peach that I changed my signature line out of respect for what I interpreted as some insult China was feeling with respect to my old signature line...

And public hangings haven't held a great deal of interest for me...ever.

If you pay close attention what you'd find is that I haven't participated in this thread for some time and it was the happenstance of seeing your moniker appear here that inspired me to sample the waters.

Point taken though.... Lay off on criticizing China..... Because you find his contributions interesting or compelling or enlightening..... everyone else should demonstrate reverence and respect.....

Got it!
 
Sal
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Obviusly I have some knowledge of different things which are necessary for everyday living ,but Idon't make a big issue out of it.Things changefrom moment to moment ,nothing is permanent, knowledge is in the past ;ther is nothing new in knowledge .

Very true that knowledge in any one particular area is not static. Everything evolves and changes from second to second. Nothing is as it was.

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Well Sal ,whatI have learned is how to be in the right place at the right time .Trust me it's not knowledge .

Trust me China, it is......... lol........ you need to take credit where credit is due. Being in the right place and at the right time, may involve chance, but knowing what to do in the moment with the chance given definitely involves awareness.....
 
dancing-loon
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Well, everyone, settle down and listen...

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchv0qhjmHioPH8

 
china
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talloola
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I'm enjoying every 'roast' that is sent china's way. He is not innocent at all, he has much anger in him,
and it came my way on the day he called me 'stupid', and I see he did that again today, so, carry on
folks, roast away, I'm being entertained, and he is a big boy, doesn't need protecting like a child would,
he can take care of himself quite well. A wolf in sheeps clothing, I think is the saying.
Other than this post, I don't opine to his posts at all any more, but I do come in and read, and I will
continue to do so

What can I say ? Love You tallola.
 

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