September 26th, 2007, 12:49 PM
Curio,
What you call meeting rooms is what I called Sunday School
One year, we actually had a teacher who gave out homework assignments and checked our homework the following week, religiously! I was sick the week we were to attend confession, and the teacher was very angry, contacted my mother, and wanted me to go, and he wanted to be there to make sure I took confession. My mother was quite angry with him.
Curio,
What you call meeting rooms is what I called Sunday School
One year, we actually had a teacher who gave out homework assignments and checked our homework the following week, religiously! I was sick the week we were to attend confession, and the teacher was very angry, contacted my mother, and wanted me to go, and he wanted to be there to make sure I took confession. My mother was quite angry with him.
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September 26th, 2007, 01:02 PM
I'm sorry you had that bad experience Tonington
The teacher didn't seem concerned you could have infected the whole class by showing up when you were ill.
Bad judgment on his part.
From what you exhibit now - I'd offer a safe comment you didn't need his 'wisdom' nor teaching - you are doing just beautifully without that unpleasant glitch. Teachers are teachers - and are not perfect. They should be the first ones to admit the fact and demonstrate as much curiosity as their
students who bring new information to the classroom all the time. Teachers must be able to change as quickly as the wind and readjust their time with the students to an exciting hour or two in exploration.
I'm sorry you had that bad experience Tonington
The teacher didn't seem concerned you could have infected the whole class by showing up when you were ill.
Bad judgment on his part.
From what you exhibit now - I'd offer a safe comment you didn't need his 'wisdom' nor teaching - you are doing just beautifully without that unpleasant glitch. Teachers are teachers - and are not perfect. They should be the first ones to admit the fact and demonstrate as much curiosity as their
students who bring new information to the classroom all the time. Teachers must be able to change as quickly as the wind and readjust their time with the students to an exciting hour or two in exploration.
September 26th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Well, it's the old adage, if it doesn't kill me it will only make me stronger. Not all authority figures are good models. I wonder sometimes if my parish had not been filled with so many bad examples, if I might have remained a faithful Catholic.
Anyways, it's folks like that who give me the heebie-jeebies when considering an education taught from a religious perspective. Besides which, you miss out on so much of the world by having such narrow focus and scope.
Well, it's the old adage, if it doesn't kill me it will only make me stronger. Not all authority figures are good models. I wonder sometimes if my parish had not been filled with so many bad examples, if I might have remained a faithful Catholic.
Anyways, it's folks like that who give me the heebie-jeebies when considering an education taught from a religious perspective. Besides which, you miss out on so much of the world by having such narrow focus and scope.
Steven Hawking's Hero
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September 26th, 2007, 02:39 PM
They rob the children of a worldview which can be used in comparison and discussion - otherwise the children only see throw a very small window on the world. That which their religion wishes them to see.
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And that my dear Tonington is the failing of religious groups schooling their young.
Besides which, you miss out on so much of the world by haaving such narrow focus and scope.
They rob the children of a worldview which can be used in comparison and discussion - otherwise the children only see throw a very small window on the world. That which their religion wishes them to see.
Genius
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Location: Eastern Ontario
Location: Eastern Ontario
September 27th, 2007, 12:25 PM
you guys are having more of a discussion over if religious schools teach properly more than if they should be funded....
I personally are a fairly religious person, however I send my kids to public school with no concern. I may switch to Catholic high school for them but honestly thats based more on location, services and school ratings that on anything else.
My problem with the whole arguement is that the status quo is not resonable.
To me you either fund other schools than the public ones or you fund no other that the public schools..
This junk of saying you will not fund a jewish school because it will divide and segragate the comminity only washes if you are to pull all sect funding..including the Catholic schools. Do remember that if a school would want public funds they would have to teach the public curriculum..if they do not wish to do that they can continue as they do now being funded by their members. We will not be funding terrorist islamic schools with public money...thats just fear mongering.
Now after saying all that I personally would rather the money be put into a VERY GOOD public system that doesn't require bake sales and raffle tickets to by required books. We would then have a system that works, If you still want something else..it's there but since the public system is for all, naturally you would now have to pay above and beyond...
you guys are having more of a discussion over if religious schools teach properly more than if they should be funded....
I personally are a fairly religious person, however I send my kids to public school with no concern. I may switch to Catholic high school for them but honestly thats based more on location, services and school ratings that on anything else.
My problem with the whole arguement is that the status quo is not resonable.
To me you either fund other schools than the public ones or you fund no other that the public schools..
This junk of saying you will not fund a jewish school because it will divide and segragate the comminity only washes if you are to pull all sect funding..including the Catholic schools. Do remember that if a school would want public funds they would have to teach the public curriculum..if they do not wish to do that they can continue as they do now being funded by their members. We will not be funding terrorist islamic schools with public money...thats just fear mongering.
Now after saying all that I personally would rather the money be put into a VERY GOOD public system that doesn't require bake sales and raffle tickets to by required books. We would then have a system that works, If you still want something else..it's there but since the public system is for all, naturally you would now have to pay above and beyond...
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September 27th, 2007, 02:10 PM
OttawaBill
What does a religious school have to teach other than what the secular school teaches?
Their religious beliefs of course.
And by their very nature religious belief is divisive and exclusionary. This is not wrong - it just is.
It is merely a matter of whether you want your child exposed to all outlets in our world to weigh the signficance of difference, or to be sheltered into a one-size-fits-only-us mentality - while the rest of the world differs without explanation for your child?
Even the beautiful Amish people who have remained steadfast in their religious life at school, home, work, play and worship, still lack the necessaries which some day they may need in order to function in our rapidly changing world. Even when they probably have the best lives - they are still lacking.
What about a secular school system which functions Monday through Friday and on Fridays for those wishing to stay within that system - while religious schooling is permitted elsewhere on Friday - such as Jewish, Catholic, Islamic, Buddhist, and the others who have enough of a congregation to make it work. If the students wish to change schools that could be permitted also within guidelines.
OttawaBill
What does a religious school have to teach other than what the secular school teaches?
Their religious beliefs of course.
And by their very nature religious belief is divisive and exclusionary. This is not wrong - it just is.
It is merely a matter of whether you want your child exposed to all outlets in our world to weigh the signficance of difference, or to be sheltered into a one-size-fits-only-us mentality - while the rest of the world differs without explanation for your child?
Even the beautiful Amish people who have remained steadfast in their religious life at school, home, work, play and worship, still lack the necessaries which some day they may need in order to function in our rapidly changing world. Even when they probably have the best lives - they are still lacking.
What about a secular school system which functions Monday through Friday and on Fridays for those wishing to stay within that system - while religious schooling is permitted elsewhere on Friday - such as Jewish, Catholic, Islamic, Buddhist, and the others who have enough of a congregation to make it work. If the students wish to change schools that could be permitted also within guidelines.
