October 4th, 2007, 08:38 PM
I feel we have enough dead weight with appointed senators at the federal level.....without having appointed members at the provincial level.
First they start with 39 appointed members, 90 elected, that's almost one third of the house.......then should an office become vacant, won't it be simpler to just appoint someone instead of going to the trouble of a By-election??
Naah! I'm definitely voting against that
I feel we have enough dead weight with appointed senators at the federal level.....without having appointed members at the provincial level.
First they start with 39 appointed members, 90 elected, that's almost one third of the house.......then should an office become vacant, won't it be simpler to just appoint someone instead of going to the trouble of a By-election??
Naah! I'm definitely voting against that
October 4th, 2007, 08:47 PM
From what I heard, all parties said if the system goes through, that those positions would have to be won in the same way that local ridings select their candidates.
Still elected by party members, still campaigning to win those votes, and you still get to elect your local member. Only difference is you could actually end up with two MPP's from one area, one being the local schmuck, the other making up the difference in popular vote province wide.
From what I heard, all parties said if the system goes through, that those positions would have to be won in the same way that local ridings select their candidates.
Still elected by party members, still campaigning to win those votes, and you still get to elect your local member. Only difference is you could actually end up with two MPP's from one area, one being the local schmuck, the other making up the difference in popular vote province wide.
October 5th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Have you decided which provincial party will get your vote in the Oct. 10 provincial election? New Democrats
41.30 % (95) Progressive Conservative
32.17 % (74) Liberal
20.87 % (4
Green Party
3.91 % (9) Other
1.74 % (4)Total votes: 230
Informal, sure, but people still took the time to vote. There's still hope Anthony Perkins will get the boot.
Have you decided which provincial party will get your vote in the Oct. 10 provincial election? New Democrats
41.30 % (95) Progressive Conservative 32.17 % (74) Liberal 20.87 % (4 Green Party 3.91 % (9) Other 1.74 % (4)Total votes: 230 Informal, sure, but people still took the time to vote. There's still hope Anthony Perkins will get the boot.
Newbie
Posts: 5 
Location: Toronto
Location: Toronto
October 5th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Here's good link:
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
Here's good link:
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
Quote:
And note that it the old boys club who are most against electoral reform.
3: MMP will elect members who represent no one and whom no one’s ever heard of.
False. Those members represent those who voted for their party. They are in the legislature because electors put them there. They are accountable to those electors as a whole.
False. Those members represent those who voted for their party. They are in the legislature because electors put them there. They are accountable to those electors as a whole.
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,160 
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 9th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Wolf
Quoting tostig
...and those to whom change in Canada must inevitably be to something worse.
Here's good link:
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
And note that it the old boys club who are most against electoral reform.
http://hubbers.ca/blog/ten-lies-about-mmp/
This should mitigate some concerns about List Members:
And note that it the old boys club who are most against electoral reform.
Wolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:29 PM
McGuilty is a smirking liar and tax thief.
Tory is unproven as a liar as yet. Howie can play hockey.
Vote Green, Howie or John. Take your pick.
Quoting dancing-loon
Sheep are dumber than a bag of rocks.
Ouote:
Will the sheep re-elect McLiberals again?
Why not? What's wrong with them?
Will the sheep re-elect McLiberals again?
Why not? What's wrong with them?
McGuilty is a smirking liar and tax thief.
Tory is unproven as a liar as yet. Howie can play hockey.
Vote Green, Howie or John. Take your pick.
War Minister
Posts: 3,061
Videos: 4
Location: The Moonsine Cafe
Videos: 4
Location: The Moonsine Cafe
October 9th, 2007, 11:09 PM
After Tory started making things up just to win, he defeated himself. Rae sunk the NDP in Ontario. So by default who is left to form the government?
If we only had a few cadidates who were interested in the good of the province and people instead of the power and friends, we might change things.
After Tory started making things up just to win, he defeated himself. Rae sunk the NDP in Ontario. So by default who is left to form the government?
If we only had a few cadidates who were interested in the good of the province and people instead of the power and friends, we might change things.
Council Member
Posts: 2,289
October 10th, 2007, 07:27 PM
Quoting Locutus
Who are you? The shepherd or his dog!
Sheep are dumber than a bag of rocks.
McGuilty is a smirking liar and tax thief.
Tory is unproven as a liar as yet. Howie can play hockey.
Vote Green, Howie or John. Take your pick.
McGuilty is a smirking liar and tax thief.
Tory is unproven as a liar as yet. Howie can play hockey.
Vote Green, Howie or John. Take your pick.
Council Member
Posts: 2,289
October 10th, 2007, 07:31 PM
Quoting Unforgiven
What things need changing, Unforgiven?
After Tory started making things up just to win, he defeated himself. Rae sunk the NDP in Ontario. So by default who is left to form the government?
If we only had a few cadidates who were interested in the good of the province and people instead of the power and friends, we might change things.
If we only had a few cadidates who were interested in the good of the province and people instead of the power and friends, we might change things.
Electoral Member
Posts: 262
October 10th, 2007, 07:51 PM
If you all want to watch the Conservative Tories or Tory crash and burn in the Ontario elections tonight go to CTV's live site http://www.ctv.ca/mini/ontarioElection2007/.
I will be playing the violin as the Conservative party is kept down and in their place on the bottom where they belong.
Harper will be shaking in his booties
If you all want to watch the Conservative Tories or Tory crash and burn in the Ontario elections tonight go to CTV's live site http://www.ctv.ca/mini/ontarioElection2007/.
I will be playing the violin as the Conservative party is kept down and in their place on the bottom where they belong.
Harper will be shaking in his booties
