hydro rates a prob... who knew?

[10larry]

Kathleen appears about to ease off on her plan to place hydro rates in orbit but hafta wonder if losing a TO riding to cons or GE bringing their own power generators while accepting her bribe to set up a combustion engine shop swayed her.
Premier Kathleen Wynne calls Ontario hydro rates an ‘urgent issue’ for her government | Globalnews.ca

 

[Murphy]

Ontario voters are just stupid enough to reward her if she lowers them - despite the fact that she created the mess to begin with. So many in arrears! Better to make half the money and collect from almost everyone. We'd come out ahead.

The rates need to be cut by 50%. Not 5 or 10%, or worse, a locked in price for a fixed period. Her security must be many and vigilant, I expect.

 

[lone wolf]

I can't understand how the silly witch stays in office. It has less common sense than Gawd granted a louse - but owns the cops. We need recall legislation and impeachment procedures

 

[mentalfloss]

This is only a problem for people who live in rural areas.

 

[darkbeaver]

There are some rural areas i n Canada.

 

[mentalfloss]

Move closer to the cities you luddites.

 

[darkbeaver]

Nothing grows in the cities, except mold.

 

[Murphy]

I can't understand how the silly witch stays in office. It has less common sense than Gawd granted a louse - but owns the cops. We need recall legislation and impeachment procedures

Her power base, as well as Dalton McGuinty's, is southern Ontario. That's where the votes are. Politicians know that they can abuse and ignore 90% of Ontario because their supporters are in a small area around the lake.

I live in rural central Ontario and my hydro rates have climbed considerably. In the past year alone by 12%, and that's with new windows and doors installed last September. My neighbours down the road that live in a typical farmhouse with older windows are paying through their noses. But it's not just the houses. It's the power required to feed, milk and care for livestock, poultry and crops which is hurting the most.

That reflects as increases to food costs,

I know some of the people here were talking about starting a coop and cutting out the marketing boards and the traditional supply routes for food crops. The marketing boards remind them of their legal and contractual obligations, but few farmers care. How are you gonna eat if food increases outstrip hydro increases? Or, if availability dries up?

It's a mess.

 

[lone wolf]

This is only a problem for people who live in rural areas.

Not according to the news ... which you'd hear if you weren't looking for ways to be twaddle

 

[PoliticalNick]

Nothing grows in the cities, except mold.

Mentalfart`s brain is a good example of that

This is only a problem for people who live in rural areas.

How much farming can you do in the city? Fact is all the city dwellers would be dead if it wasn't for the rural citizens support.

 

[Jinentonix]

It's not just the hydro rates that are the problem, it's all the little "extras" that get tacked onto your bill. Of course there's the usual taxes, and because the Ontario govt are pricks and always have been is this particular regard, their monthly hook up and delivery charges. But the biggest affront is the "Global Adjustment Fee". Now, if Ontario is generating hydro at the 99.7% emissions-free they claim it is, (it's actually 81%) then why the f*ck are we paying a fee for NOT producing emissions from power generation? And a huge fee it is too. Basically, if you use $125 worth of hydro in a month, you're going to be charged around $500 for it.

 

[lone wolf]

Global Adjustment more than makes up for what "discounters" like Planet and Just Energy take. Delivery? Nobody can explain what that's all about. Call Hydro three times and you'll get three different answers - all of them hiding the fact it's a tax that doubles the bill and makes the revenues look good for suckers ... er ... investors

 

[Jinentonix]

Global Adjustment more than makes up for what "discounters" like Planet and Just Energy take. Delivery? Nobody can explain what that's all about. Call Hydro three times and you'll get three different answers - all of them hiding the fact it's a tax that doubles the bill and makes the revenues look good for suckers ... er ... investors

No, the fee is to pay wind power producers 6 times the market value for hydro while paying solar producers almost 40 times the market value for hydro, even when neither of them are producing!
It's also another way to goon the Ontario rate payer to make up for all the hydro exported at market value that makes no profit for the govt.
Put it his way, Ontario supplies power to 14.5-5 million homes. Ontario has fewer than 5 million households. Hell, the entire country of Canada has fewer than 14 million households.
This tells me one important thing. Wind and solar are completely pointless in Ontario. Get rid of them, don't even bother replacing them and not only would Ontario still have enough generating capacity to meet it's needs and still have plenty for export, its emission-free generation would remain exactly the same. In fact, it might even improve.

 

[Angstrom]

Is manufacturing coming back yet? :laughing3:

 

[Danbones]

Move closer to the cities you luddites.

from the city
Deville as they say en francais

we moved away on purpose
that's where fake politicians and their minions live

 

[Curious Cdn]

Unfortunately, the Liberals did not win the last election. A stumble-bumbly Conservative leader lost it. It was painful to watch, too and the on-going negative consequences were all predictable, too. Governments need to be fired periodically or they become arrogant and corrupt. Ontario missed its chance and the current pack of Liberals are now many years passed their sell-by-date.

 

[Danbones]

A fine case of election wrestling
In Canada, when you want to control the outcome of an election, while making it look kosher, you just put an Ignatief type leader in the leading position in the designated loser party

and move the football a few yards further down the field

 

[tay]

A fine case of election wrestling
In Canada, when you want to control the outcome of an election, while making it look kosher, you just put an Ignatief type leader in the leading position in the designated loser party

and move the football a few yards further down the field

Or provincially a Hudak, Horvath or Brown.

Instead of going after the Muzzie votes, even though they won the riding, the news should have been Brown's plan to fix the hydro issue, but all the chatter for a week was sex ed.

Wynne will win again because the other 2 appear to have no answers or solutions.

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Media Coverage – Hydro Not For Sale!

 

[Jinentonix]

This is only a problem for people who live in rural areas.

Mississauga is a rural area? Oshawa-Whitby is a rural area? Windsor is a rural area? Ottawa is a rural area? K-W is a rural area? London is a rural area?
Are you on a mission to prove how utterly clueless you are or something?

 

[Murphy]

He just says that to get a reaction. He's like your little brother. He wants to hang out with you, and be cool like his big brother. The trouble is, he's too immature for the bigger boys to want to bother with. Put him on ignore.