Ontario urged to get act together to save Ring of Fire development

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Ontario urged to get act together to save Ring of Fire development

By Maria Babbage, The Canadian Press | The Canadian Press – 13 hours ago




TORONTO - The finger-pointing has begun as governments and critics look to assign blame over a big mining company's pullout from the Ring of Fire in northern Ontario, a massive mineral-rich area believed to have the economic potential of Alberta's oilsands.
Cliffs Natural Resources Inc. is suspending its operations indefinitely, saying it couldn't keep spending money while the question of whether it would be able to build an all-weather road to the remote site remained in doubt.
It's a major setback for cash-strapped Ontario, which may not see the economic windfall the governing Liberals had promised anytime soon.
Greg Rickford, the federal Conservatives' lead minister for the Ring of Fire, said he was surprised with the Cliffs decision, because the company was "very satisfied" with the federal government's involvement in the project.
But in some ways, it wasn't that surprising, said the minister of state for FedNor, the economic development organization for northern Ontario.
"I think that the announcement Cliffs made reflects uncertainty in a broader business sense," Rickford said in Timmins, Ont.
"The commodity market hasn't been that great for them, and in this case, they're waiting on some things the province ought to have responded to a little bit sooner."
Ontario's governing Liberals need to deal with the dispute over access to the site, because big companies looking to develop the massive chromite deposit can't proceed until they know "what direction they're going to go."
"This challenge, I think, sits squarely in the premier's office," Rickford said. "The world is watching, this is a legacy resource project and we want to get it right for the multi-generations of northern Ontarians that can benefit from this."
Ontario seems to understand the challenges that lie ahead and is willing to work more collaboratively, he added.
But the province should have collaborated more with the federal government, First Nations and the companies involved before announcing a development corporation to move the project along.
"We would have appreciated a little bit more collaboration and notice in that since what it considers is fairly large in scope, from what I can gather, although it's not been shared with me at this point," he said.
"And I think the First Nations and the private sector companies implicated feel the same way."
Cliffs wanted to build a road to the site, but junior mining company KWG (TSXV:KWG) had already staked the most viable corridor through very difficult wetland terrain for a potential railroad.
Cliffs suspended its environmental assessment activities in June and asked Ontario's Mining and Lands Commission for an easement over KWG's mining claims. The application was dismissed in September. Cliffs has appealed.
But the company isn't selling its Ring of Fire assets and appears to be biding its time until the provincial government intervenes on the road issue.
Miners like Noront Resources, which is developing the Eagle's Nest nickel-copper project, aren't going anywhere. Noront is looking at a longer east-west route, rather than the north-south road that Cliffs had proposed.
"Noront is still very much in play here, and we hope that with the province's extra efforts focusing on the, the land commissioner's decision and facilitating a strong business relationship with Noront and Cliffs, moving forward, that Cliffs will come back to the table and will get, will get back to work," Rickford said.
The Liberals have been touting the Ring of Fire for years as a major mining project that will help boost the struggling province's economic fortunes, create jobs and bring in revenue to struggling First Nations.
They insist the project isn't dead and there are many other companies interested in the project.
The Liberals called on the federal government to "come to the table with matching funds for infrastructure development in the Ring of Fire, the same way they have funded similar projects across Canada."
Total capital investment for industrial infrastructure could cost up to $1 billion and connecting local communities to all-season access roads could be $1.25 billion, they said.
"Our government is committed to realizing this unprecedented opportunity that will bring long-term prosperity to communities in the North and indeed, across the entire province," Ontario Northern Development and Mines Minister Michael Gravelle said Friday in a statement.
"While I am disappointed with Cliffs' decision, our commitment remains clear and the province is prepared to invest in vital infrastructure and create the right climate to support development in the region and move development forward."
But the Liberals are also taking hits from the opposition parties, who say the government needs to get its act together soon if they want to save the project.
Those tens of thousands of jobs the Liberals bragged about may never materialize if Cliffs doesn't come back, the Progressive Conservatives warned.
"What I worry about is this is a chilling signal to investment for resource projects in Ontario," said Opposition Leader Tim Hudak.
"If the government is going to be an absentee landlord, not drive these processes, the dollars will move elsewhere."
The Liberals dithered while Cliffs — which was going to pour $3 billion into the Ring of Fire — warned for months that it might pull out over the road dispute, said the NDP.
Hundreds of millions of investment dollars has been put aside — and won't come back for a long time — because the Liberals failed to act, said New Democrat Gilles Bisson, who represents Timmins-James Bay.
It's a loss for the entire province, he said.
"This is not about a mining job in the Ring of Fire," Bisson said. "This is about a production job in Hamilton, this is about a service job in Windsor, this is about a job in the finance district of downtown Toronto."
The Ring of Fire is believed to contain the largest deposit of chromite — a key ingredient in the making of stainless steel — to be discovered in North America.
The federal government has compared it to the oilsands in terms of its potential to create wealth and development.


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Ontario Liberals just can't seem to stop dropping the damn ball can they?
 

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...at least BC has bud....
Better bud on the prairie.

If that dirt is so valuable it's only a matter of time.

The chosen name for this development is idiotic this is The Ring of Fire people in Onterrible are so limited & parochial.
What if greens decided it wasn't in the nation's best interest to extract those resources and tried to stop it with ridiculous claims?

That is the latest ring of fire. This was the original.
 

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A road connecting remote First Nations in Northern Ontario’s Ring of Fire region to the south would cost $264-million to $559-million, according to a government-funded study that reviewed a range of options.

The All-Season Community Road Study has not yet been made public, but The Globe and Mail has obtained a copy of the 147-page document, which is described as final and is dated June 30, 2016.

The $785,000 study was paid for by the federal and provincial governments. Ottawa and Ontario are considering options to address the needs of remote First Nations while also responding to the potential for major mining development in Ontario’s far north if the region is made accessible through a new road or rail line.

The Ring of Fire is a large mineral deposit about 500 kilometres northeast of Thunder Bay. It is estimated that it would be worth billions if resources companies had road or rail access. That has prompted Ontario to pledge $1-billion toward infrastructure in the region, and the province has called on Ottawa to match that amount. The study involved discussions with four small and remote northern communities: Webequie First Nation, Eabametoong First Nation, Neskantaga First Nation and Nibinamik First Nation. Technical work was conducted by SNC-Lavalin Group Inc., a global engineering and construction firm.

The cost estimate varies based on the route options and whether the roads would be paved. The figures are similar to an industry estimate from 2012 that a road to the Ring of Fire would cost about $500-million. One mining firm with interests in the region – KWG Resources Inc. – released its own estimate on Friday from GreenForest Management Inc., a company with experience building logging roads. That estimate put the price at $83.6-million to $99.9-million to access the deposits and up to $73.1-million more to connect area First Nations to the main road.

The Globe reported on Thursday based on a summary of the report’s conclusions that the year-long process failed to reach a consensus on whether the four communities support or oppose a road. The full version provides an in-depth account of what residents of the First Nations and off-reserve members see as the pros and cons of a road to the south.

Among the positives, people said road access would make it easier for parents to visit children who must move away to attend high school. Cheaper food and other goods from the south are also viewed as a benefit, along with new links between First Nations communities. Common concerns were that a road could bring more hunters from the south, which could negatively affect trap lines and other traditional hunting practices. Many fear that more drugs and alcohol could reach the communities.

Bruce Achneepineskum, chief of Marten Falls First Nation, which is south of the Ring of Fire but was not part of the road study, said his community is working with investors on a separate study focused on a north-south road to the Ring of Fire that would also connect his fly-in First Nation to the south.

Mr. Achneepineskum said he believes the benefits of an all-weather road are clear, given that it costs about 52 cents a pound to transport goods into the community.

“Your wallet shrinks pretty fast,” he said. “The road would bring down the cost of living in remote communities. It would free up money to further construction, build more houses, people could buy more food and it would allow a little bit of freedom for those residents to come in and out of the community and mingle with the outside world.”

Road to Ring of Fire could cost up to $550-million - The Globe and Mail
 

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Ontario is taking an important next step toward developing the Ring of Fire, working with Webequie, Marten Falls and Nibinamik First Nations to plan and construct a year-round access road into the proposed mining development site being pursued by Noront Resources Ltd. As part of this project, the province is also working with First Nations to build all-season access roads to their communities.

Premier Kathleen Wynne was in Thunder Bay today with the Minister of Northern Development and Mines, Michael Gravelle, to announce that Ontario will support First Nations to plan and construct an east-west road connecting the Webequie and Nibinamik communities to the provincial highway network north of Pickle Lake. This project would provide all-season access to both First Nations communities as well as into the Ring of Fire development.

The province is also supporting Marten Falls First Nation to plan and construct an access road connecting the community to the existing provincial highway network at Aroland/Nakina.

Communities are working to begin environmental assessments of these projects by January 2018 and plan to begin construction in 2019, pending all necessary approvals.

As a next phase, Ontario will continue to support Marten Falls to undertake further technical and environmental studies that could inform planning and development of a north-south access road tied to the development of, and business case for, chromite mining in the Ring of Fire.

Building these roads is a critical step in realizing the economic benefits of one of the biggest mineral-development opportunities in Ontario in almost a century. Funding for these roads is part of the government's commitment to invest $1 billion in Ring of Fire infrastructure to create jobs, provide long-term benefits and improve quality of life for people in the region.

Ontario is working to support these First Nations as they address all regulatory requirements so that this unique environment is protected.

The province welcomes this merging of cultural considerations with regulatory requirements and will ensure First Nations and their perspectives, including traditional knowledge, are carefully considered in decision-making.

Investing in the development of the Ring of Fire while ensuring that First Nations participate in and benefit from this development is part of our plan to create jobs, grow our economy and help people in their everyday lives.

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Take a drive along LaSalle in Sudbury - a road built mostly on bedrock, and you can easily see the sort of damage steady pounding by ore-laden trucks does. Now figure what a road built on muskegs by the lowest bidder will look like in short order. That's a lot of product. A railway is still the best bet....
 

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Communities are working to begin environmental assessments of these projects by January 2018 and plan to begin construction in 2019, pending all necessary approvals.

The whole project has been "pending" for how many years now?

The word "confirm" is nowhere to be found in the article. It would be better to say that, "Everything has been approved and construction is confirmed to start in 2019".

This announcement is basically saying what we've already known. Its just rewritten to make it sound, nice.
 

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The whole project has been "pending" for how many years now?

The word "confirm" is nowhere to be found in the article. It would be better to say that, "Everything has been approved and construction is confirmed to start in 2019".

This announcement is basically saying what we've already known. Its just rewritten to make it sound, nice.
The original post that started this thread is from 2013.

It's almost like there's an election next year. Of course there's an out for Wynne if she happens to get re-elected. She can blame Trudeau.......

The Ontario government has so far unsuccessfully pressed the federal government to match its planned $1-billion investment.


Ontario to move ahead with road access into chromite rich Ring of Fire region - APTN NewsAPTN News
 

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BC has something even more better then simple bud - we have some of the best cannabis genetic engineers in the World - right now their working on new strains that almost have a 60% THC level. Cheers!
 

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BC has something even more better then simple bud - we have some of the best cannabis genetic engineers in the World - right now their working on new strains that almost have a 60% THC level. Cheers!

Wtf?

I ran a grow op for 2 harvests before. BC folks are going to need to step up their game cause the market is about to get overwhelmed.

You can trust what I say because I posted a thread here back in the day here asking about how to setup the HPS ballast.
 
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BC has something even more better then simple bud - we have some of the best cannabis genetic engineers in the World - right now their working on new strains that almost have a 60% THC level. Cheers!

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BC has something even more better then simple bud - we have some of the best cannabis genetic engineers in the World - right now their working on new strains that almost have a 60% THC level. Cheers!
I'm new top the Medicinal Pot but from what I read THC doesn't seem to be a factor as much as Cannabinoids. But of course for the recreational I see where that would be a good thing.....

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/s...essfully-kill-leukemia.html?highlight=medical