Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Unless her name is the Virgin Mary a man has a ****lode of say.
Do you have any idea how many women who listen to all the lame excuses put forth for having an abortion live horrible lives of secrecy, lieing to boyfriends or husbands trying to hide their past, shame, depression, fear of retribution from God, substance abuse or eventually end their own lives in guilt and anguish? I do. I live with a woman who seems to be perpetually on call 24/7 who has spent a hefty chunk her life trying to piece the emotions of hundreds of women back together who have made the mistake of falling to the flimsy pressures and excuses for ending the life of their child. It's not easy on the people who give their hearts to help women cope with the after effects of an abortion and it isn't easy on the people who have to perform them day in day out. Check out their freak out or suicide stats for that sector of the health industry sometime.
To say it's an individual choice and hers alone to deal with is one of the biggest lies behind Pro-Choice. Don't think so? Look into how many pro-choice groups advocate and lobby for post abortion support services because they know full well how damaging they are.
You put an awful lot of baggage in that post,I will try to address a couple of the things you bring up.
While the man involved should rightfully have some input, especially in long term commited relationships, the final decision must be hers and hers alone. We as men cannot use brute force to enact or prevent the termination so it is her choice over her body in the end.
If a woman has to try to lie and hide her past from her partner then I would say she might want to consider a new partner, we all have history and sometimes it is not nice, if your partner cannot accept that and how it makes you who you are then it is their problem, not yours.
I could argue that it is the stigma attached to the act by pro-lifers that creates most of the major emotional issues which would only be enhanced by making the act illegal. We know from past experience that prohibition only leads to back-street abortions and self-terminations of the grossest and most dangerous sort making the mental trauma even greater than it is already.
The reason those that support choice also support pre and post procedure support is to ensure first that the decision is made for the correct reasons and also to ensure the trauma is as minimal as possible, that is only good healthcare policy.
The issue is very complex and very individual and a lot of the generalization from both sides is not helpful at all. For me it always comes back to the reciprocal argument of I don't want anyone to interfere with my body so I will not interfere with theirs.