Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
only thing I have to say is........ you're a fu cking idiot. How DARE you judge the woman when YOU have not been in her shoes. How DARE you imply that it is somehow her fault.
Oh grow up
You and perhaps even I may not agree with his position or his opinion on this subject, but he has every right to question or comment on this situation just as much as those giving well wishes and kissing her ***.
It's in the news, it's being shoved in our faces by all of the media that I come across.... as far as I'm concerned, her "Ordeal" is open to discussion and debate.
Don't like it?
Don't get involved.
Offended that someone is questioning the details of the story?
Oh and the personal insults don't help your argument.
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy
This is back country road for one thing, and we don't know what the weather
was like for the first few days. Secondly her husband likely told her to stay
with the van as he would be back. I think he was a brave man, he didn't know
where he was but was intent on saving his wife, even if he might have known
he wasn't going to make it.
That assumption is equal to the assumptions presented by Mother.
You may think he was a brave man..... I personally think he was an idiot.
Bravery doesn't always equal to intelligence.
How many stories and news reports have you come across over the years of a couple getting lost in the woods and when one person decides to go out and get help alone.... they generally end up dead?
I've come across piles of these stories over the years. You either stay put together, or you leave together, especially if neither of you are injured and/or you have supplies.
She obviously had enough supplies to survive that long on her own.... what did her husband have for supplies when he went for his long trek back to civilization?
Secondly if he had gone in the opposite direction
he was only five miles from a farm according to news reports tonight.
I think they were both not thinking straight to be taking back roads at that time
of year in an unknown mountain area. If you saw any video clips tonight on
the news, what was up ahead was even worse had they made it any further.
Indeed... complete and utter stupidity to be venturing off on some logging road, during that time of season, in an area you're not familiar with, in a van.... all just to look at the scenery.
As for blaming the woman or the man, its inappropriate, none of us were with
them so we don't know the discussion.
I don't believe I saw anybody blaming anyone.... just pointing out stupid dumbass decisions & mistakes, as well as contradicting information.
They were committed to each other
and had been together a long time through thick and thin.
Again as someone else pointed out about not being them and not being there, how do you know how committed they were to one another? Saying one thing to the media isn't always the same thing in one's own thoughts. An example of this would be that mother from Bridgewater who killed her daughter, dumped her body and then played the media, pleading for help in finding whoever was responsible for her going missing.
decisions have to be made. I know that all too well. A couple of years back
my wife was in ICU and after five days they came with a hard decision. She
might make it if they unhooked the breathing tubes and she might not. The
problem was once they pulled them out if she couldn't breathe on her own it
was too late to turn back. If they left them in place she might never get any
better. She has COPD and it flares up, she never wanted to be hooked up
for life, and she wasn't conscious. I made the decision to pull the tubes out
and she struggled for a while but made it. Sometimes hard decisions have
to be made and they need to be made now, the problem is often people don't
have the courage to make them. This man made the decision, he made
and no one can be blamed for that.
Sorry, I don't see how your personal experience relates to this situation.
Clearly this situation wasn't as dire and immediate as your situation.... they clearly had shelter, they had supplies, neither of them were injured, Both could have walked out on their own, in either direction and made it back to civilization.
They made the stupid decision to venture off the beaten path using a vehicle not exactly designed for the un-beaten path, they're the ones who got stuck because of a stupid decision, he was the one who decided after a while to wander off to "Get Help" and she either made the decision or agreed to sit in the van and write some haikus.
I'm not about to suggest she killed her husband and I'm not going to claim he left her there to die and ran off with some woman at the end of the road..... but this story isn't heroic in anyway..... it was a stupid situation that shouldn't have happened in the first place. They're twice my age and I would have thought experience came with age.... hell, I knew well not to do what they did back when I was in Jr. High School.
Congrats for her surviving, but there's nothing heroic about this story.
With any luck, she'll learn something from this experience she didn't learn before.
Last edited by Praxius; May 10th, 2011 at 02:52 AM..