Haiti, Zimbabwe, now South Africa, falling into chaos

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The black dominated govt in South Africa is doing very little to protect white farmers, which feed the country..

These farmers are being killed and the SA govt is doing very little to protect them. South African farmers are beng wooed by other African govts to grow food. Food, you know, that stuff feeds people. Most Africans have a subsistence peasant mentality, grow just enough food to get by, and get others to share when there is famine. The men like to have many wives and children which is a free labour supply, so the men can sit around and do nothing.

It is likely, if current trends continue, that South Africa may go the way of Zimbabwe and Haiti over the next few years. Utter chaos.

South Africa's white farmers are moving further north | Environment | The Guardian

South Africa's white farmers are moving further north

Other countries believe their agricultural expertise can kickstart an agrarian revolution across the African continent

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Farmer Francois Mouton on his farm near Coligny, South Africa. Photograph: Bloomberg/Getty


They are calling it the next great trek. Almost two centuries after Boers hitched their wagons to oxen and headed inland to establish the South African republic, they are on the move again. This time they are flying – and their destination is the whole of the African continent.

White South African farmers are now being courted by the north, by countries who believe their agricultural expertise can kickstart an agrarian revolution across the continent. They are being offered millions of hectares of allegedly virgin rainforest and bush, as well as land already farmed by smallholders or used as pastures by herders.

In the biggest deal to date, Congo-Brazzaville has offered South Africa farmers long leases on up to 10m hectares of land, an area that includes abandoned state farms and bush in the remote south-west of the country. The first contracts, which put 88,000 hectares in the hands of 70 farmers, were signed at a ceremony in the country last month.

Meanwhile, in Mozambique, some 800 South African farmers have acquired a million hectares in the southern province of Gaza, thanks to an arrangement set up by sugar farmer Charl Senekal, an associate of the South African president, Jacob Zuma. This deal will be celebrated at a ceremony in Pretoria next month.

There have been sporadic moves north by white South African farmers since the end of apartheid. But the current migration is more organised, says Ruth Hall of the Institute for Poverty, Land and Agrarian Studies at the University of the Western Cape in South Africa. "South Africa is exporting [not just] its farmers, but also its value chains, to the rest of the continent," she told a meeting on international land grabs in Brighton last week.

The mass movement is mostly organised by Agri South Africa, an association that represents 70,000 South Africa farmers. Its president, Johannes Moller, made a pitch for new deals at a conference on large-scale farming in Africa, held in Cairo last April. Since then, Agri SA has received offers of land from 22 African countries, says Hall. Along with free land come tax holidays, free rein to export produce and profits, and promises of new roads and power lines – angering local peasants who have never enjoyed such benefits.

Zambia wants South African pioneers to grow maize, and Sudan is offering land and irrigation water to grow sugar cane. Another deal, currently on hold, would see them take over 35,000 hectares of Libya.

With one-third of South Africa's white-owned farmland to be transferred to black owners by 2014, many white South African landowners are keen to find new territory, though most want to keep their home farms as well, says Hall.

The new trek is attracting support from major South African finance houses such as Standard Bank and investment funds such as Emergent Asset Management, a UK-South Africa fund run by former Goldman Sachs high flyer Susan Payne. She claims to be investing in 14 African countries and promises a 30% annual return.

Many African countries believe the new white farmers can end their reliance on food imports. But the farmers and their financiers often have other plans. According to Theo de Jager, Agri SA deputy president and mastermind of the international deals, the farmers in Congo-Brazzaville want to grow more profitable tropical fruit for export to European supermarkets, rather than grains for locals.

Another concern is what land the farmers are being offered. The governments making overtures towards claim there is ample "empty" land – in which case the threat is that forests and other biodiversity hotspots will be gobbled up.

But much of the land is, in reality, already occupied by farmers and pastoralists. While the Congo-Brazzaville government says the land it is handing over to white South Africans has been empty since the closure of state farms more than 10 years ago, Hall says its former owners have returned and are growing cassava and peanuts. Like the original trek, the new invasion is likely to be met with resistance.
 

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Like the original trek, the new invasion is likely to be met with resistance.

Sounds like an uninformed statement, seeing as the only race native to South Africa are the Bushmen, who offered very little resistance to the Trekkers since they were hunters and gatherers. The resistance only started when the Boers created an economy and a rich culture that people from the North came South. The Bushmen and the Boers (or Trekkers) had an allegiance to each other, especially during the Boer war.
 

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Can white south african farmers shoot black people in the face for $3,900?
 

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I wonder how many were shot when their land was being stolen from them under the rule of the UK.
This is pretty typical in any country that was raped by the UK.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sf.html
Economy - overview:
South Africa is a middle-income emerging market with an abundant supply of natural resources; well-developed financial, legal, communications, energy, and transport sectors; and a stock exchange that is Africa’s largest and among the top 20 in the world.
Economic growth has decelerated in recent years, slowing to an estimated 0.7% in 2017. Unemployment, poverty, and inequality - among the highest in the world - remain a challenge. Official unemployment is roughly 27% of the workforce, and runs significantly higher among black youth. Even though the country's modern infrastructure supports a relatively efficient distribution of goods to major urban centers throughout the region, unstable electricity supplies retard growth. Eskom, the state-run power company, is building three new power stations and is installing new power demand management programs to improve power grid reliability but has been plagued with accusations of mismanagement and corruption and faces an increasingly high debt burden.
South Africa's economic policy has focused on controlling inflation while empowering a broader economic base; however, the country faces structural constraints that also limit economic growth, such as skills shortages, declining global competitiveness, and frequent work stoppages due to strike action. The government faces growing pressure from urban constituencies to improve the delivery of basic services to low-income areas, to increase job growth, and to provide university level-education at affordable prices. Political infighting among South Africa’s ruling party and the volatility of the rand risks economic growth. International investors are concerned about the country’s long-term economic stability; in late 2016, most major international credit ratings agencies downgraded South Africa’s international debt to junk bond status.

Bullshit, they were destroyed by socialism, you smrt person.
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A slug is smarter than the whole group you represent.


https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/britain-takes-control-cape
The arrival of the British at the Cape changed the lives of the people that were already living there. Initially British control was aimed to protect the trade route to the East, however, the British soon realised the potential to develop the Cape for their own needs.
Indigenous population
With colonialism, which began in South Africa in 1652, came the Slavery and Forced Labour Model. This was the original model of colonialism brought by the Dutch in 1652, and subsequently exported from the Western Cape to the Afrikaner Republics of the Orange Free State and the Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek. Many South Africans are the descendents of slaves brought to the Cape Colony from 1653 until 1822.
The changes wrought on African societies by the imposition of European colonial rule occurred in quick succession. In fact, it was the speed with which change occurred that set the colonial era apart from earlier periods in South Africa. Of course, not all societies were equally transformed. Some resisted the forces of colonial intrusion, slavery and forced labour for extended periods. Others, however, such as the Khoikhoi communities of the south-western Cape, disintegrated within a matter of decades.
Initially, a colonial contact was a two-way process. However, Africans were far from helpless victims in the initial encounter. Colonial contact was not simply a matter of Europeans imposing themselves upon African societies. For their part, African rulers saw many benefits to be had from maintaining relations with Europeans, and for a considerable period of time they engaged with Europeans voluntarily and on their own terms.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_South_Africans
History

The history of European settlement in South Africa started in 1652 with the settlement of the Cape of Good Hope by the Dutch East India Company (VOC) under Jan van Riebeeck.[7] Despite the preponderance of officials and colonists from the Netherlands, there were also a number of French Huguenots fleeing religious persecution at home and German soldiers or sailors returning from service in Asia.[8] The colony remained under Dutch rule for two more centuries, after which it was annexed by Great Britain around 1806.[9] At that time, South Africa was home to about 26,000 people of European descent, a relative majority of whom were still of Dutch origin.[9] However, beginning in 1818 thousands of British immigrants arrived in the fledgling Cape Colony, looking to join the local workforce or settle directly on the frontier.[9] About a fifth of the Cape's original Dutch-speaking white population migrated eastwards during the Great Trek in the 1830s and established their own autonomous Boer republics further inland.[10] Nevertheless, the population of European origin continued increasing at the Cape as a result of immigration, and by 1865 had reached 181,592 people.[11] Between 1880 and 1910, there was an influx of Eastern Europeans of various nationalities, especially a large Jewish community from the Baltic region.[12]
The first nationwide census in South Africa was held in 1911 and indicated a white population of 1,276,242.[12] By 1936, there were an estimated 2,003,857 white South Africans, and by 1946 the number had reached 2,372,690.[12] The country began receiving tens of thousands of European immigrants, namely from Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Greece, and the territories of the Portuguese Empire during the mid to late twentieth century.[13] South Africa's white population increased to over 3,408,000 by 1965, reached 4,050,000 in 1973, and peaked at 5,044,000 in 1990.[14] The number of white South Africans resident in their home country began gradually declining between 1990 and the mid-2000s as a result of increased emigration.[14]
Today, white South Africans are also considered to be the last major white population group of European ancestry on the African continent, due in part to the mass exodus of colonials from most other African states during regional decolonization. Whites continue to play a role in the South African economy and across the political spectrum. The current number of white South Africans is not exactly known as no recent census has been measured. Although the overall percentage of up to 9% of the population represents a decline, both numerically and proportionately, since the country's first multiracial elections in 1994. Just under a million white South Africans are also living as expatriate workers abroad, which forms the majority of South Africa's brain drain.



Jews still control the gold and diamond mines so they also control the rest of the industries, what not a surprise. That would explain why the blacks were treated like they were. Go ahead and ask for a link because there is lot available to show Jews were the ones at the head of the slave trade and still are. You know how it ends when you hook your hopes on a black entity always being in control. That they have had control and looking at the condition of the world it is apparent their political ambitions are as flawed as their religious experience was before God abandoned them.


https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/sa-jews-take-back-seat-in-politics-1.5296896
Jews were once prolific in South African politics at every level. In addition to Suzman, the Progressive Party was represented by former-leader Tony Leon, as well as Selma Browde and Harry Schwarz. The African National Congress, the liberation movement that became the governing party in 1994, also had a full complement of Jews, including Joe Slovo, Ronnie Kasrils and Denis Goldberg. Jews were also prominent in municipal politics. Over Johannesburg's 120-year history, 22 of its 94 mayors have been Jewish, according to the city’s website. Cape Town has had 13 Jewish mayors since 1907.



https://www.dw.com/en/jews-and-apartheid-in-south-africa/a-16391662
Another kind of discrimination
Around 3,500 German-Jews entered South Africa until the beginning of 1937 when, amid a big hoopla on the part of the opposition, the so-called Aliens Act was approved, effectively closing the door on German-Jewish immigration.
In this regard, the question of political activity under the Apartheid system must be considered. These German-Jewish immigrants, victims of classic racism and anti-Semitism, arrived in a country with a colonial, racially divided and exploitative society.
White Jews, who were still the victims in Europe, were suddenly the beneficiaries of a racial pecking order. That is a great contradiction and many of those affected were too young to understand the political connections here in South Africa or in Europe.
And, naturally, the majority of Jews lived like other white English speakers. However, there is no doubt that an above-average proportion of the Jewish community was part of the Struggle.
But let us take a step back in order to understand the issues of the period, for example the extermination of Jews from Lithuania, of which 90 percent were murdered during the Second World War.


I also have a few links that shows Jews in Germany were not the innocents portrayed in all the Holocaust propaganda and that Germans were much more civil than they were.
 

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"I also have a few links that shows Jews in Germany were not the innocents portrayed in all the Holocaust propaganda and that Germans were much more civil than they were."

By all means let's see your secret info.

Because as far as I know many many innocent people were killed by Nazis.
 

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Don't be afraid to post something other that your personal thoughts on the matter. Are you saying the article is a lie, somehow I don't think you can prove it. All you are doing is showing you are an Israel firster and that probably includes treason against Canada (or racism against Canadians) in one form or another.

It isn't that hard to show Germans treated Jews a lot better than Jews treated Germans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_BP6o6BqUo&t=224s
Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually ...

If the Jews weren't involved the SA (like the article) when things were the worst for the blacks then post it. I was on the case of the British Empire for all the shit but by that time they were already under the thumb of the Rothschild Bankers.

Jewish only supporters are weak in the 'facts dept'.
 
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Venezuela: I left Venezuela's socialism behind for a reason
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ernie-sanders-elections-2016-column/85294346/

Venezuela destroyed by socialism.

Rhodesia: How To Kill A Country
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/12/how-to-kill-a-country/302845/

Zimbabwe destroyed by socialism.
Really Walnut are you that stupid? The first link is to a family that bailed out of their home country and moved to the US, the reasons listed below are the conditions that existed before Hugo kicked the US out. That is when the economic war against them started. You and your lying sack of shit friends tend to bury that facts as it exposes all of you as chronic liars who biggest lies all benefit the Bankers. lol Tell me, how does you feel knowing you are morally bankrupt and that God hasw punishment waiting for you?



https://ideamensch.com/erick-brimen/

As a Venezuelan native, Erick observed first hand how wide the economic gap is between the rich and the poor and felt compelled to do something about it. His family immigrated to the US, and throughout his formative years, Erick took up a keen interest in business, entrepreneurship, and the financial freedom that comes when a good idea meets with the right circumstances. With a dream of a better future, Erick sought out an education in economics. Doors opened up for him, and Erick pursued a career in finance. Erick is a leader within the investment community and hopes to provide a chance at a better life to his Latin American compatriots.


Your 2nd link shows what happens when you try to break away from the UK. We are independent yet we were obligated to fight for them in 2 wars they started and now we have to give up drinking straws. If we don't will they invade us or sick the banksters on us??
 

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‘Socialism Kills’ by David Welch
The Society April 4, 2018 Culture, Deconstructing Communism, Human Rights in China, News of Note, Poetry


Young people go marching, the boys and the girls,
They’re thinking like once we did, they’ll change the world.
They claim government is a cure for our ills,
They seem to forget, in fact, socialism kills.

Lenin and Stalin put twenty million down,
Left them to rot in dark pits in the ground.
The gulags and purges were work of their will,
The Holodomor clinched it, yes, socialism kills.

China with Mao was the state with the plan:
“Great Leap Forward,” which needs every woman and man.
But leaped to nowhere! Sixty million graves filled,
The greatest mass-murder, yes, socialism kills.

Socialism anywhere anytime kills.
Never brought fairness and never will.
One hundred million who’ve paid the steep bill
Yell from their graves to you, “Socialism kills!”

Cambodia promised its people a way,
Begin at year zero, to build better days.
Yet killing fields of Pol Pot left the world chilled.
One-third were all dead when socialism killed.

Cuba and North Korea slaughter and starve
The freedomless citizens through force of arms.
Not nations, but prisons with common folks filled,
Your innocence means nothing, for socialism kills.

Some say it might work with good people in charge,
Yet fails every state, whether small, whether large.
Venezuela’s the latest to swallow the pill,
Descending in chaos cause socialism kills.

Socialism anywhere anytime kills.
Never brought fairness and never will.
Against human nature, it rakes up a bill,
One hundred million deaths—socialism kills!