From the Globe and Mail:Trudeau told the PMO that he believes honour killings are barbaric, but "my issue is with tone and target audience in regards to the guide."
While not a big fan of Trudeau, I tend to agree with him. It just goes to show that the Dippers haven't cornered the market on over reacting. Is Hedy Fry a Conservative now?
From the Globe and Mail:
The updated guide, which the Tories says is meant to “help new immigrants learn about Canadian history and about the acceptable cultural practices of our country,” labels the murder of women or girls who purportedly bring dishonour on their families as “barbaric.”
It is this characterization that Mr. Trudeau took offence to, telling radio station Newstalk 1010 reporter he was “uncomfortable with the tone.”
“He said ‘he does not want them to be described in such a ‘pejorative’ way in Canada’s citizenship guide’,” according to the Tory missive. “Trudeau said that ‘I think that’s part of the tone that I’m uncomfortable with’.”
He's uncomfortable with the TONE? Oh, come on. He is uncomfortable calling honour killings barbaric, because it's pejorative?
God help him, I think his father would be ashamed.
God help him, I think his father would be ashamed.
I see no drawback to using the term "totally unacceptable" instead of "barbaric". Since the target of these words are new immigrants, it should be their interpretation that should be considered not yours, mine or Treadeau's. I think that is the point he so poorly tried to make.
Copy that Mother ****er!!!!!! ccasion5:See, there's the problem. It shouldn't be the new immigrants' interpretation that matters. It should be our government's message that matters. If it hurts your feelings to be called barbaric for being barbaric, then don't immigrate here.
End of ****ing story.
Absolutely fully agree.See, there's the problem. It shouldn't be the new immigrants' interpretation that matters. It should be our government's message that matters. If it hurts your feelings to be called barbaric for being barbaric, then don't immigrate here.
End of ****ing story.
See, there's the problem. It shouldn't be the new immigrants' interpretation that matters.
It should be our government's message that matters.
If it hurts your feelings to be called barbaric for being barbaric, then don't immigrate here.
Who said these immigrants were being barbaric?
You're saying that honour killings are not barbaric?
Are you saying these immigrants are participating in honour killings?
No, you just have a comprehension problem. We're saying that honour killings are barbaric, and if you participate in them, or approve of them, you are being barbaric.
No need to apologize.
Absolutely fully agree.
Why are we immigrating these type of people into our country in the first place?
Are we scrapeing the bottom of the barrel ??
I think we should add the following statement to the guide;
"These type of acts are carried out by Barbarians and Barbarians are not allowed into Canada"
We should use social pressure to have these people stop this kind of nonsence, since they come here and don't respect our laws, maybe they will bow to social pressure.
Oh, he could have said this, he could have said that, he could have kept his mouth shut and said nothing,,,the dumb ignorant fk.That is why the term "completely unacceptable" would have been a better choice.
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I have never read a definition of barbarian that meant non-Christian.
bar·bar·i·an
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/B00/B0091900" target="_blank"><img src="http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/speaker.gif" border="0" alt="barbarian pronunciation" /></a> /bɑrˈbɛəriən/ Show Spelled[bahr-bair-ee-uhn] Show IPA
–noun 1. a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person.
2. a person without culture, refinement, or education; philistine.
3. (loosely) a foreigner.
4. (in ancient and medieval periods) a. a non-Greek.
b. a person living outside, especially north of, the Roman Empire.
c. a person not living in a Christian country or within a Christian civilization.
5. (among Italians during the Renaissance) a person of non-Italian origin.
–adjective 6. uncivilized; crude; savage.
7. foreign; alien.