Record DeathToll Dwarfs Bush-Era Casualties

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Over 700 NATO Troops Killed in Afghanistan in 2010

by Jason Ditz,
December 28, 2010


Another year is coming to a close in Afghanistan, and once again we reflect on the record toll of the war, as over 700 NATO troops have been killed in Afghanistan in 2010. The number is far higher than the figure for 2009, and more than double the toll of 2008, the highest death toll during the Bush Administration.

The figures since 2003 have shown a consistent increase in casualties every year, as the US and its NATO allies pour more and more troops into an ever worsening war. The dramatic escalations of the Obama Administration were spun as a major strategy change, but the end result was just a much faster rate of increase in NATO deaths.

All told, some 1,230 NATO troops have died since January 1, 2009, more than the entire death toll from the 2001 US invasion through the end of 2008. Once again, the NATO toll was overwhelmingly US troops, with nearly 500 Americans slain in 2010, and 317 slain in 2009.

Despite some claims of non-specific progress from the Obama Administration, most experts a projecting that 2011 will be an even deadlier year than 2010, meaning that the trend toward ever increasing deaths will continue unabated.

 

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Over 700 NATO Troops Killed in Afghanistan in 2010

by Jason Ditz,
December 28, 2010


Another year is coming to a close in Afghanistan, and once again we reflect on the record toll of the war, as over 700 NATO troops have been killed in Afghanistan in 2010. The number is far higher than the figure for 2009, and more than double the toll of 2008, the highest death toll during the Bush Administration.

The figures since 2003 have shown a consistent increase in casualties every year, as the US and its NATO allies pour more and more troops into an ever worsening war. The dramatic escalations of the Obama Administration were spun as a major strategy change, but the end result was just a much faster rate of increase in NATO deaths.

All told, some 1,230 NATO troops have died since January 1, 2009, more than the entire death toll from the 2001 US invasion through the end of 2008. Once again, the NATO toll was overwhelmingly US troops, with nearly 500 Americans slain in 2010, and 317 slain in 2009.

Despite some claims of non-specific progress from the Obama Administration, most experts a projecting that 2011 will be an even deadlier year than 2010, meaning that the trend toward ever increasing deaths will continue unabated.



NATO was attacked on Sept. 11, 2001......and has been repeatedly since then. That attack came from Afghanistan, where the perpetrators trained and planned under the protection of the Islamist government of the Taliban. Consequently, that gov't refused co-operation in the capture of our enemies or the destruction of their training camps....so we kicked ass. And we must now prevent their return.

WTF do you propose we do....CONVERT??????

Thanks to people like JBee, one wonders if the west can defend itself. 700 NATO troops killed in 2010.........

On Aug 12, 1942....Canada (then a nation of less than 12 million) lost 907 killed, 2460 wounded, 1874 in NINE HOURS on the beaches at Dieppe. No one spoke of abandoning the effort. No one cried about withdrawal. No one wanted to surrender to the Nazis or negotiate a settlement.

And eventually we won.

To talk about abandoning this effort after our country of 35 million loses 155 soldiers in nine YEARS is just lunacy.........I fear for western civilization. Are we such cowards????

Especially as we, with the Brits and Americans, seem to be the only ones with any determination at all in Afghanistan.

Oh, as an aside, I love the sympathy-evoking picture accompanying this piece......you know, the pretty lady smiling at the camera., supposedly dreaming of a time when NATO is gone, and she is left in peace.............to be whipped by the Taliban for showing her face in public.
 
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Correction....The US alone, was `attacked` on 9/11 and celebrated world wide, as well as, by so called "NATO" countries populations....and deservedly so.

Kiss-ass politicians of those NATO countries that sent in dupes to do the US dirty work are responsible for our fallen troops.
 

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Granted 9/11 didn't just happen out of the blue. The terrorists had demands and felt in their own mind anyway that 9/11 was in retaliation of something. We play dirty buggers in foreign lands and get puffed up when someone from a foreign land brings it on home to us. The lesson here is that we should be taking tighter control of the leash we have on the use of our military to cover the deeds those who run our government for a time get up to. Wikileaks helps to expose those nasty little buggers doing the things they feel they must which we all know they shouldn't be doing at all. Lead by example. When we have clean hands as a nation, we also have the right to self defence and should that be an over whelming attack on all people and places without mercy or consideration to any human casualty of war, we say in one voice without hesitation we will not stand to be attacked and will walk the bones of those who attack us into the ground of their own homeland. But like I said, we have to have clean hands first. As it stands our hands are as dirty as any terrorist we've seen so far.

NATO was attacked on Sept. 11, 2001......and has been repeatedly since then. That attack came from Afghanistan, where the perpetrators trained and planned under the protection of the Islamist government of the Taliban. Consequently, that gov't refused co-operation in the capture of our enemies or the destruction of their training camps....so we kicked ass. And we must now prevent their return.

WTF do you propose we do....CONVERT??????

Thanks to people like JBee, one wonders if the west can defend itself. 700 NATO troops killed in 2010.........

On Aug 12, 1942....Canada (then a nation of less than 12 million) lost 907 killed, 2460 wounded, 1874 in NINE HOURS on the beaches at Dieppe. No one spoke of abandoning the effort. No one cried about withdrawal. No one wanted to surrender to the Nazis or negotiate a settlement.

And eventually we won.

To talk about abandoning this effort after our country of 35 million loses 155 soldiers in nine YEARS is just lunacy.........I fear for western civilization. Are we such cowards????

Especially as we, with the Brits and Americans, seem to be the only ones with any determination at all in Afghanistan.
 

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Correction....The US alone, was `attacked` on 9/11 and celebrated world wide, as well as, by so called "NATO" countries populations....and deservedly so.

Kiss-ass politicians of those NATO countries that sent in dupes to do the US dirty work are responsible for our fallen troops.

Now you are just being silly.

24 Canadians died on 0-11.

The NATO treaty says an attack on one is an attack on all.

North American treaties that we have with the USA say an attack on one is an attack on all.

WE, therefore, were attacked on 9-11.

In my analogy below, perhaps you would like to point out where Germany attacked Canada? Or North America?
 

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Correction....The US alone, was `attacked` on 9/11 and celebrated world wide, as well as, by so called "NATO" countries populations....and deservedly so.

Kiss-ass politicians of those NATO countries that sent in dupes to do the US dirty work are responsible for our fallen troops.

I think much of the Western world depends largely on the U.S. for defense, so I don't think it's unreasonable for the NATO countries to support the U.S. in annihilating these invasive bastards. :smile:
 

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Granted 9/11 didn't just happen out of the blue. The terrorists had demands and felt in their own mind anyway that 9/11 was in retaliation of something. We play dirty buggers in foreign lands and get puffed up when someone from a foreign land brings it on home to us. The lesson here is that we should be taking tighter control of the leash we have on the use of our military to cover the deeds those who run our government for a time get up to. Wikileaks helps to expose those nasty little buggers doing the things they feel they must which we all know they shouldn't be doing at all. Lead by example. When we have clean hands as a nation, we also have the right to self defence and should that be an over whelming attack on all people and places without mercy or consideration to any human casualty of war, we say in one voice without hesitation we will not stand to be attacked and will walk the bones of those who attack us into the ground of their own homeland. But like I said, we have to have clean hands first. As it stands our hands are as dirty as any terrorist we've seen so far.

No nation on earth, at any time....and especially no nation with economic power, has EVER had "clean hands". When it comes to superpowers, the United States has exercised its power in the last one hundred years in a way that has been RELATIVELY benign.

Wikileaks is a threat to our troops, it put our allies on the ground in Afghanistan in extreme danger, Assange is a bit of sociopathic scum, and openess makes diplomacy impossible.

The relativism you put forth between a terrorist working to kill innocents to advance the cause of a medieval mindset that is the antitheses of liberty.....and the free world in the process of defending itself disgusts me. NOBODY has clean hands.......yet we need to defend ourselves.

Nothing is so black or white......
 

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"24 Canadians died on 0-11"....

Whoopy-****ing-doo!!

It boils down to we being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Now you are just being silly.

24 Canadians died on 0-11.

The NATO treaty says an attack on one is an attack on all.

North American treaties that we have with the USA say an attack on one is an attack on all.

WE, therefore, were attacked on 9-11.

In my analogy below, perhaps you would like to point out where Germany attacked Canada? Or North America?
 

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No nation on earth, at any time....and especially no nation with economic power, has EVER had "clean hands". When it comes to superpowers, the United States has exercised its power in the last one hundred years in a way that has been RELATIVELY benign.

With the bar set so low, can you expect better? To be great we need to be great. We do great works. We have shown ourselves capable and willing. But there are those among us, that would choose the easy path to a quick return in order to hold the illusion of control over others. There is no comparison to WWII as this is not beating a outrageous government of a country invading and occupying those around it. The US is in Saudi, supporting a regime there that is a brutal dictatorship. For oil and access to run a military base out of there. The dirty tricks can be best summed up by the guns for drugs deal Reagan operated, that Oli took the heat for and was quickly rescued for his loyalty to the snakes that pull that off. That is what needs to end so that we can have clean hands and take the moral high road.

Wikileaks is a threat to our troops, it put our allies on the ground in Afghanistan in extreme danger, Assange is a bit of sociopathic scum, and openess makes diplomacy impossible.

Wikileaks exposes the sociopathic scum that weasel their way into government, back stabbing, taking advantage off others and lining their pockets that is the treat to our troops. Being a snake in the grass it is only a matter of time before they are exposed for what they are. That is what makes diplomacy impossible.

The relativism you put forth between a terrorist working to kill innocents to advance the cause of a medieval mindset that is the antitheses of liberty.....and the free world in the process of defending itself disgusts me. NOBODY has clean hands.......yet we need to defend ourselves.

Nothing is so black or white......

I am sure it runs against the strong streak of hypocrisy that runs through your being. That doesn't change anything though. We need to have clean hands regardless of what everyone else is.
 

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"24 Canadians died on 0-11"....

Whoopy-****ing-doo!!

It boils down to we being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is exactly that.......although you could say the same thing about Jane Creba on the streets of Toronto....perhaps we should have given her killers a pass, huh?????

However, our treaties with the USA and with NATO are NOT accidental........they are a necessary thread in the fabric of our place in the world.

And they must be honoured.
 

petros

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If it weren't for NATO, white people would be attacked by fascists again?

Wasn't it fascism that initiated the attacks in the first place?

If other nation states form an official alliance to counter Western facism all would be legit and the attacks justified?
 

petros

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That's strange- NATO is made up of 28 nations which are comprised of people.
Nations are Corporations (dead hands). Canada too... Search Results

Form 18-K

We even pay tax to the IRS....

CANADA (Filer) CIK: 0000230098 (see all company filings) IRS No.: 000000000 | Fiscal Year End: 0331
Type: 18-K | Act: 34 | File No.: 033-05368 | Film No.: 101260119
SIC: 8880 American Depositary Receipts
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Business Address CANADIAN EMBASSY 1746 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW WASHINGTON DC 20036
 

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On Aug 12, 1942....Canada (then a nation of less than 12 million) lost 907 killed, 2460 wounded, 1874 in NINE HOURS on the beaches at Dieppe. No one spoke of abandoning the effort. No one cried about withdrawal. No one wanted to surrender to the Nazis or negotiate a settlement.

So your validation is - at least it's not as bad as world war two, lol. You're running on too much emotion and national pride here. Let it go Indy - let's bring back our troops and keep them alive for when we actually need them.
 
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petros

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Canada wasn't attacked on 9/11.

They missed by a couple miles in DC and clear across the island in NY.

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"Record DeathToll Dwarfs Bush-Era Casualties"

Well, then JBeee, are you saying that your God, Obama is worse than Bush?

I'm pretty sure he would denounce Obama for not stopping this effort just as any rational, bipartisan, and mostly sane individuals would. Of course, it's also pretty obvious this is his token offering to get the republican vote.