Drunk Driver Murders 4 year old child - Sentence- 2 1/2 Years Jail

[Goober]

Drunk Driver Murders 4 year old child - Sentence- 2 1/2 Years Jail

As anyone can see this is why the Canadian Public has little to no Faith in the Justice System.

Carol Berner to serve jail time over death of Alexa Middelaer - The Globe and Mail


Carol Berner stood quietly in court as she was sentenced to two years six months in jail for impaired and dangerous driving that led to the death of 4-year-old Alexa Middelaer.
In an emotional case that led to a province-wide crackdown on drunk-driving, Provincial Court Judge Peder Gulbransen said in his ruling Friday that he hoped people inside and outside the courtroom heed the message conveyed by the account of the devastating impact of the fatality on the Middelaer family.

 

[JLM]

Drunk Driver Murders 4 year old child - Sentence- 2 1/2 Years Jail

As anyone can see this is why the Canadian Public has little to no Faith in the Justice System.

Carol Berner to serve jail time over death of Alexa Middelaer - The Globe and Mail


Carol Berner stood quietly in court as she was sentenced to two years six months in jail for impaired and dangerous driving that led to the death of 4-year-old Alexa Middelaer.
In an emotional case that led to a province-wide crackdown on drunk-driving, Provincial Court Judge Peder Gulbransen said in his ruling Friday that he hoped people inside and outside the courtroom heed the message conveyed by the account of the devastating impact of the fatality on the Middelaer family.

What message was conveyed? This belongs in the joke department. 8O

 

[Ron in Regina]

This reminds me of a story out'a Saskatchewan a couple of years ago. For
the life of me, I can't recall the specifics (names, town, etc....), but this is the
gist of it.

A woman with several impaired driving charges already, and a suspended
drivers license, and totally hammered, hits another car and kills many people
in that car.

She gets a slap on the wrist sentence, followed by rehab on a resort-like
facility close to her home reservation with horseback riding and such...like
somewhere the rest of us would pay big money to go to for two weeks of
the year for a vacation.

Oh wait, here: Norma Mooswa - A(nother) Justice System Travesty | News Talk 980 CJME

She didn't serve 10 years either. A couple months, & then resort-style
rehab. Read the above LINK. It's enough to make a maggot gag.

 

[Goober]

What message was conveyed? This belongs in the joke department. 8O

The Defence asked for No Jail time and are considering an appeal - The crown wanted 3-5 and support the Judges decision -

I think they all should be tested for drug use and being whacked in the head. A judge does not always have to adhere to the lowest common jail term - this has been done in other cases. The Judge could have imposed a more sever sentence.

 

[ironsides]

Drunk Driver Murders 4 year old child - Sentence- 2 1/2 Years Jail

As anyone can see this is why the Canadian Public has little to no Faith in the Justice System.

Carol Berner to serve jail time over death of Alexa Middelaer - The Globe and Mail


Carol Berner stood quietly in court as she was sentenced to two years six months in jail for impaired and dangerous driving that led to the death of 4-year-old Alexa Middelaer.
In an emotional case that led to a province-wide crackdown on drunk-driving, Provincial Court Judge Peder Gulbransen said in his ruling Friday that he hoped people inside and outside the courtroom heed the message conveyed by the account of the devastating impact of the fatality on the Middelaer family.

Who created the law? You have to re-write the law with stiffer penalties.
Who created the law? re-write the law with stiffer penalties. Crown should be crowned with a sledge hammer.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Who created the law? You have to re-write the law with stiffer penalties.
Who created the law? re-write the law with stiffer penalties. Crown should be crowned with a sledge hammer.

Judges in Canada are appointed, not elected, and from what I understand,
can stay in their positions until the age of 75....& there are stiff repercussions
on the books, but how they're applied is a different story.

 

[taxslave]

One can get more jail time for smoking a joint in the privacy of your own home than for murder.
Kind of makes you wonder how someone like Latimer? gets locked up for years for a mercy killing and then a drunk gets off with a taxpayer funded holiday.
The message I read in this sentence is that if you want to kill some one get rip roaring drunk and run over them.

 

[shadowshiv]

Drunk Driver Murders 4 year old child - Sentence- 2 1/2 Years Jail

As anyone can see this is why the Canadian Public has little to no Faith in the Justice System.

Carol Berner to serve jail time over death of Alexa Middelaer - The Globe and Mail


Carol Berner stood quietly in court as she was sentenced to two years six months in jail for impaired and dangerous driving that led to the death of 4-year-old Alexa Middelaer.
In an emotional case that led to a province-wide crackdown on drunk-driving, Provincial Court Judge Peder Gulbransen said in his ruling Friday that he hoped people inside and outside the courtroom heed the message conveyed by the account of the devastating impact of the fatality on the Middelaer family.

That's gonna teach her a lesson not to drink and drive! Yessiree! Man, what a freaking joke our justice system is. What a crock!

"In an emotional case that led to a province-wide crackdown on drunk-driving, Provincial Court Judge Peder Gulbransen said in his ruling Friday that he hoped people inside and outside the courtroom heed the message conveyed by the account of the devastating impact of the fatality on the Middelaer family."

What message is that, you idiotic judge? Go ahead and drink and drive as the most you'll get is a slap on the wrist? PATHETIC!

The Defence asked for No Jail time and are considering an appeal - The crown wanted 3-5 and support the Judges decision -

I think they all should be tested for drug use and being whacked in the head. A judge does not always have to adhere to the lowest common jail term - this has been done in other cases. The Judge could have imposed a more sever sentence.

This is why we need an overhaul of the justice system. Being able to vote judges in and turf the ones doing a crappy-ass job would be a good start.

 

[petros]

He planned to kill this girl or it was manslaughter and not murder?

 

[shadowshiv]

He planned to kill this girl or it was manslaughter and not murder?

I wish it could be determined to be murder, but it can't be sentenced as such. However, the sentence that she could have received is a lot higher than what she did receive. The judges seem to prefer to hand out sentences towards the lower tier of punishment. You would think they would wake up by now, but they are the ones who have not seemed to have gotten the message yet.

 

[Cannuck]

I think we need to start at the beginning and figure out what our our justice system is supposed to be and do. Is it to deter crime? Is it to protect the population? Is it to punish the the perpetrator? Is it to rehabilitate the perpetrator? One needs to decide on this before one can decide on whether the courts actions were right or wrong

 

[JLM]

Who created the law? You have to re-write the law with stiffer penalties.
Who created the law? re-write the law with stiffer penalties. Crown should be crowned with a sledge hammer.

No, We don't have to rewrite anything- the laws are clear and for vehicular manslaughter the sentence can be severe, all that is lacking is the available sentences are not being handed down. :-(

 

[Andem]

Anybody want to write up a commentary on this story that I'll put on the front page?

 

[petros]

There are problems much more complex than just the crime and sentence. There has to be facility space to put this person for X amount of years, staffing, funding, and prisoner safety etc etc etc.

If it were as easy as giving the max sentence of 10 years but unfortunetly a criminal sentence is monetary based and not tragedy based.

 

[Colpy]

Okay....let's get sensible here.

The woman was NOT drunk. She had three glasses of wine, and blew .04 and .06......both under the legal limit of .08.

She is guily of dangerous driving, driving 91 KPH in a 50 zone..........she lost control as she hit speed bumps.....

Perhaps we could charge the traffic engineer that ordered the bumps put in?????

I think the sentence was quite fair, all things considered.

Stuff happens. Tragic, terrible, unspeakable stuff. There may be someone to blame, but one should not get carried away.....unless you have never broken the speed limit. Or had two beer and driven home.

"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

 

[petros]

The woman was NOT drunk. She had three glasses of wine, and blew .04 and .06......both under the legal limit of .08.

Old laws. Where have you been?

 

[Goober]

Anybody want to write up a commentary on this story that I'll put on the front page?

If someone does offer perhaps they should include the carnage and social costs of having a child killed, or some senseless act. The divorce rate goes up - the costs for physiological services already under immense stress- The ones that live lives of the dead as they cannot comprehend how someone can commit such an act, of their own choice and pay such a trivial penalty.

Perhaps they should consider those points as well.

We have many on this forum that can write quite well. I am not one of them.

 

[petros]

If you fail the roadside dance and are on cough syrup you are legally impaired.

 

[Goober]

If you fail the roadside dance and are on cough syrup you are legally impaired.

Are you sure?
Next - it has directions on it -does it not warning of side effects?

 

[petros]

Failing the dance is all it takes.