End of the Earth postponed !

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End of the Earth postponed - by Mayan calendar


It's a good news/bad news situation for believers in the 2012 Mayan apocalypse. The good news is that the Mayan "Long Count" calendar may not end on Dec 21, 2012 and, by extension, the world may not end along with it. The bad news for prophecy believers? If the calendar doesn't end in December 2012, no one knows when it actually will - or if it has already.




The Kukulkan pyramid stands at the Mayan ruins of Chichen Itza in Mexico's Yucatan peninsula July 7, 2007. Chichen Itza is one of the contenders of the new seven Wonders of the World. [Photo/Agencies]




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A new critique, published as a chapter in the new textbook "Calendars and Years II: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient and Medieval World", argues that the accepted conversions of dates from Mayan to the modern calendar may be off by as much as 50 or 100 years. That would throw the supposed and overhyped 2012 apocalypse off by decades and cast into doubt the dates of historical Mayan events. The doomsday worries are based on the fact that the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, much as our year ends on Dec 31.
The Mayan calendar was converted to today's Gregorian calendar using a calculation called the GMT constant, named for the last initials of three early Mayanist researchers. Much of the work emphasized dates recovered from colonial documents that were written in the Mayan language in the Latin alphabet, according to the chapter's author, Gerardo Aldana, University of California, Santa Barbara professor of Chicana and Chicano Studies.
Later, the GMT constant was bolstered by American linguist and anthropologist Floyd Lounsbury, who used data in the Dresden Codex Venus Table, a Mayan calendar and almanac that charts dates relative to the movements of Venus.
"He took the position that his work removed the last obstacle to fully accepting the GMT constant," Aldana said in a statement. "Others took his work even further, suggesting that he had proven the GMT constant to be correct."
But according to Aldana, Lounsbury's evidence is far from irrefutable.
"If the Venus Table cannot be used to prove the FMT as Lounsbury suggests, its acceptance depends on the reliability of the corroborating data," he said. That historical data, he said, is less reliable than the Table itself, causing the argument for the GMT constant to fall "like a stack of cards."
Aldana doesn't have any answers as to what the correct calendar conversion might be, preferring to focus on why the current interpretation may be wrong. Looks like end-of-the-world theorists may need to find another ancient calendar on which to pin their apocalyptic hopes.
 
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Dexter Sinister

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Darn, I guess I'll have to give up my plan for a year of hedonistic self-indulgence and debauchery before the end comes. Don't want to be burning up my capital if there's actually a future. Too bad, I was going to invite everybody over for a week-long end of the world blowout starting December 14th.
 

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Darn, I guess I'll have to give up my plan for a year of hedonistic self-indulgence and debauchery before the end comes. Don't want to be burning up my capital if there's actually a future. Too bad, I was going to invite everybody over for a week-long end of the world blowout starting December 14th.


You could still do that, and then when it doesn't happen, sue those that convinced you that it was going to happen.
 

spaminator

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there are also the time wave zero, kolbrin bible, and bible code prophecies that predict that the world would end on december 21st, 2012.
 

Cliffy

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The prophesy is that the world will end "as we know it" It is not the end of the earth, it is the beginning, a new consciousness, a new way of perceiving life. It will be the "end time" because time will become irrelevant. This is not just a Mayan prophesy, it is a world wide prophesy. ... but I will believe it when I see it.
 

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How Long Is A Year? - Exactly how long is a year ?

Exact astrological time may have messed the Mayan's up a bit..Freaked them out a little when their Calender started goin' outta wack ..

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD...or perhaps they just needed a new way of keeping track of time...:)
 

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As I have been saying all along, the Mayan calender supporters/believers will be greatly disappointed and realize how big a fools they really are when they finally discover that the calender ends just like our normal, yearly calenders end....... that a new calender year/era will begin..... the unfortunate thing is that they're no longer around to issue the new calender to replace the old..... so because of this, we got nut jobs running around claiming the end of the world.

There were nut jobs running around claiming the end of the world based on the Egyptian calender too...... back in the 70's..... it never happened and life went on.

So if the Egyptians didn't get it right, why do these people think the Myan's will?

Oh but now that we're cutting it close to the time we're all supposed to die, here come all the new ideas and assumptions to cloud and confuse the 2012 deadline.... so that when it passes, some idiot will come along and say "Ok, here's the real date when everything is going to end" ~ Followed by another wave of kooks to run around waving signs that the end is near...... only to be fooled again.

Here's a question:

Riddle me this....... how do these experts claim their calender calculated all sorts of magical and wonderful things that came true and thus is an accurate source for predicting the future....... When above they claim that calculations to match the calender to the calender we use today could be off 50-100 years.... possibly even more?

So if our estimations are that friggin off from this calender.... how can one determine if their calender was accurate to begin with when we have no accurate basis of reference? :-?

And if we can't even confirm or deny if they could even get the moon phases right on the calender compared to our current calenders..... how can one hold any faith that the world will end on such and such a date based on a calender we can't even read properly?

Tell you what.....

..... all those who want to worry and freak out about some magical dinosaur from space crashing into the planet and killing us all can fill their boots with their paranoia and worries...... I'll continue to live my life as I see fit and if the world is going to be destroyed.... how about you guys let me know the day after when I might give a damn.
 

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As I have been saying all along, the Mayan calender supporters/believers will be greatly disappointed and realize how big a fools they really are when they finally discover that the calender ends just like our normal, yearly calenders end....... that a new calender year/era will begin..... the unfortunate thing is that they're no longer around to issue the new calender to replace the old..... so because of this, we got nut jobs running around claiming the end of the world.]/quote]Yep, ignorance is bliss. Or in this case, ignorance is doomsday. lol
BTW, that cycle in the Mayan calendars ended early this year, not on the 21st of this month.
'Doomsday' 2012 prediction explained: Mayan calendar was cyclical