Canadian Soldier Gets Wrists Slapped For Murder

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Ah the poor bugger. At least the judge gave him leeway to re-join the military...perhaps only to repeat the crime.


CBC News - Canada - Semrau kicked out of Canadian Forces

Jbeee - read below - You should be more informed before you name such a thread - some would even say you were a troll for naming the thread in such a way that completely misrepresents the fact that the Capt. was found Not Guilty of Murder -

He thanks the Canadian public for all the support he's been given throughout the process. We still have troops overseas in harm's way and he only asks that you direct your support to those troops that are in harm's way throughout the world."
In July, Capt. Semrau was found guilty of shooting the wounded and unarmed Taliban insurgent in 2008. The prosecution, however, failed to secure a conviction of its allegation that the captain killed, or intended to kill, the Talib. The soldier was instead convicted of behaving in a disgraceful manner, in contravention of the National Defence Act.
 

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Anyone who wasn't at the scene of the incident isn't qualified to make any accusations. Sometimes soldiers go for weeks without more than short snatches of sleep, so we don't really know if he was even in condition to make sound judgments, we also don't know what the victim perpetrated prior to being shot. War has a different set of rules & doesn't always coincide with Miss Manners book of ettiquette.
 

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The guy was blown to bits, suffering, the medics could do nothing for him, they were leaving him to die a very nasty death........

As a hunter, I wouldn't do that to a coyote.

A bullet through the head was an act of mercy.

War is not played by the same rules as life in downtown Toronto.
 

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The guy was blown to bits, suffering, the medics could do nothing for him, they were leaving him to die a very nasty death........

As a hunter, I wouldn't do that to a coyote.

A bullet through the head was an act of mercy.

War is not played by the same rules as life in downtown Toronto.

One thing to consider was a Corporal who was on his way to being punted from the unit due to his lack of physical conditioning and the Afghan Interpreter testified against him. The Warrant Officer testified for him.

Now we know of repeated lies by Canadian hired Afghan Interpreters -

The court did not know if the Taliban was alive or dead or if those rounds caused his death- Hence the Not Guilty Verdict -

perhaps someone should think of the damage of an Apache Chopper can inflict on a person.

One thing though - The Interpreter will be fast tracked for Canadian Citizenship - On that you can bet your bottom dollar.

JBeee - You will have a new friend -
 

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War is murder, especially when it involves invading another country. Perhaps the ones that should be on trial are the ones responsible for sending our troops into harms way.
There is no justification for using force except in self defense. Until someone invades Canada, we have no business shooting at anyone. It has been well known that we are in Afghanistan under false pretenses. When that was made clear, we should have pulled out.
 

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War is murder, especially when it involves invading another country. Perhaps the ones that should be on trial are the ones responsible for sending our troops into harms way.
There is no justification for using force except in self defense. Until someone invades Canada, we have no business shooting at anyone. It has been well known that we are in Afghanistan under false pretenses. When that was made clear, we should have pulled out.
Soo we should have sat out WW2?
 

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Apparently Colpy was.


Anyone who wasn't at the scene of the incident isn't qualified to make any accusations. Sometimes soldiers go for weeks without more than short snatches of sleep, so we don't really know if he was even in condition to make sound judgments, we also don't know what the victim perpetrated prior to being shot. War has a different set of rules & doesn't always coincide with Miss Manners book of ettiquette.
 

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Apparently Colpy was.
As were you

JBeee - You know in the morning when you are looking in the mirror and talking away - Well the guy looking back is only pretending to talk - he knows you cannot lip read and what he is saying about you is not nice - perhaps you should have a word with him sometime.
 

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Soo we should have sat out WW2?
Since we still were part of the monarchy we really had no choice, but yes we should not have been there. WW2 was a set up. Unfortunately we did not know that at the time. Hitler spread himself too thin and never would have crossed the ocean and if he did, he never would have been able to hang onto PEI.
 

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Since we still were part of the monarchy we really had no choice, but yes we should not have been there. WW2 was a set up. Unfortunately we did not know that at the time. Hitler spread himself too thin and never would have crossed the ocean and if he did, he never would have been able to hang onto PEI.
Check your history - On how Canada declared War - and yes Subs were spotted off PEI.
 

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Check your history - On how Canada declared War - and yes Subs were spotted off PEI.
Whose version of history? Subs don't invade and if we had not been in the war, they never would have come over here. War is about money, nothing else. It helped us out of the Great Depression, but at what cost?
 

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No I wasn`t there Goober. Nor were the judge and jury in this case.

But circumstances of the death are certainly interesting. How on earth did the soldier obtain rights to shoot the suffering Afghani with medical personnel involved?


As were you
 

JBeee

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According to Colpy`s version of events, medics were at the scene.


No I wasn`t there Goober. Nor were the judge and jury in this case.

But circumstances of the death are certainly interesting. How on earth did the soldier obtain rights to shoot the suffering Afghani with medical personnel involved?




What Medical personnel were on site - None
 

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According to Colpy`s version of events, medics were at the scene.



Do not try to hang this on Colpy - You should have some knowledge of what you post - Is that asking to much - a little bit of knowledge of the events or are you just trolling with thread titles
 

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War is murder, especially when it involves invading another country. Perhaps the ones that should be on trial are the ones responsible for sending our troops into harms way.
There is no justification for using force except in self defense. Until someone invades Canada, we have no business shooting at anyone. It has been well known that we are in Afghanistan under false pretenses. When that was made clear, we should have pulled out.

Afghanistan IS self-defense.

We were attacked. Under our military agreements, an attack on either the USA or Canada is considered an attack on both. Under the NATO treaty, an attack on any member is considered an attack on all. And more than a few Canadians died on 9-11.

Our ONLY "pretense" in being in Afghanistan is to prevent the Taliban establishing yet another Islamic state, in which lunatic Islamists train and prepare for missions against the west.

Making life better for the people of Afghanistan, creating a stable society, that is all icing....NOT necessary to the primary goal.

Which we can not allow ourselves to miss.
 

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War is murder, especially when it involves invading another country. Perhaps the ones that should be on trial are the ones responsible for sending our troops into harms way.
There is no justification for using force except in self defense. Until someone invades Canada, we have no business shooting at anyone. It has been well known that we are in Afghanistan under false pretenses. When that was made clear, we should have pulled out.

Amen!
Bring our forces home!
 

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As far as I know, the soldier was charged with murder. He was found not guilty by (was it a military court?).

In order for this case to have reached public attention, there must have been some substance to the charges. Colpy claims there were medics at the scene. Was this `fact` brought up in the courts?

Strange, don`t you think?
 

Colpy

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According to Colpy`s version of events, medics were at the scene.

I did say that, but on a brief look at available articles, I could not find anything to substantiate it.

My bad.

What it did say was that among his other injuries, the Talibani had a severed leg. It seems to have been the general concensus (and soldiers do have some rudimentary training and experience in such matters) that the Talibani was a goner, and the decision was made to simply leave him, not to bother calling in medevac helicopters.....a waste of time.

Thus bang bang.

I only hope someone would be kind enough to do the same for me, in the same situation.