To those who would 'boycott' the Tar Sands

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:canada:Check this out: Pretty good thinking methinks. And it's in a sort of Con newspaper also, so it's ok to read it.

Oilsands boycott by U.S. giants deserves similar response from Canadians
By EZRA LEVANT, QMI Agency
Last Updated: August 31, 2010 2:00am

Walgreens is the largest pharmacy chain in the U.S.
It's also corrupt.
For years, they secretly altered their customers' prescriptions, without their doctor's knowledge, in a giant insurance scam across 42 states. They targeted Medicaid, the program for low-income Americans. So they were stealing from taxpayers and the poor at the same time. That kind of big thinking is why Walgreens is number one.
Walgreens replaced inexpensive drugs with drugs that were up to four times more costly. Only when an honest pharmacist finally blew the whistle on them were they stopped -- and fined a whopping $35 million.
Are you ready to take moral lessons from Walgreens? Because they've just announced that they're switching their trucks to fuel that doesn't come from Canada's oilsands -- as an ethical statement.
Taking ethical guidance from Walgreens is sort of like taking abstinence lessons from Hugh Hefner.
I'd call for a boycott of Walgreens, but they don't have any stores in Canada (and, despite their name, they are no relation to Walmart).
But Walgreens isn't the only moral hypocrite to come out against Canada. So did The Gap, which also owns Banana Republic and Old Navy.
Do yourself a favour: Don't buy their clothes.
This applies especially to Albertans, whose jobs depend on the oilsands. There are 26 Gaps, Old Navys and Banana Republics in Alberta. Boycott them.
But it goes for Ontarians, too, where more people work for the oilsands now than work for the Big Three automakers combined.
And it goes for anyone with a pension -- odds are some of your savings are invested in the oilsands. The Gap could hurt your retirement. So hurt them back.
Not just because they are boycotting Canadian oil. But because they've had their own ethical failings, too.
In 2008, a shocking TV report out of India showed children as young as 10 working in sweatshops sewing clothes for The Gap. One child had been sold to the factory as a slave, and had not been paid in four months.
Sorta gives "Baby Gap" a new meaning, doesn't it? Banana Republic isn't just a brand name, it's the location of their factories.
The Gap claims they were shocked to learn about this. Just like they were shocked a few years earlier to learn their factory in Saipan kept indentured workers in with barbed wire, and bullied pregnant workers into having abortions, so as not to lose time off work.
They're shocked a lot over at The Gap.
And now they say they're shocked by Canada's oil.
But Canada's oil isn't produced by 10-year-old kids or abused Chinese women.
Yet we're supposed to take moral lessons from the likes of them.
There is a question the fools at Walgreens and The Gap haven't answered: Where are they going to buy their gas from, if not Canada?
Saudi Arabia? Could there be a more unethical barrel of oil than one from that racist, misogynistic, terror-sponsoring dictatorship? Venezuela, to enrich strongman Hugo Chavez? Iran, with its nuclear plans?
We should boycott The Gap because they're thumbing their nose at us. And because they have used what looks an awful lot like slave labour.
But we should also boycott them because they're making an unethical fuel decision: Swapping Canadian oil for Saudi or Venezuelan oil.
How could you in good conscience give money to someone like that?




OK< we're so 'debate conscious' these days, round here. Whadya think??


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:canada:Check this out: Pretty good thinking methinks. And it's in a sort of Con newspaper also, so it's ok to read it.

Oilsands boycott by U.S. giants deserves similar response from Canadians
By EZRA LEVANT, QMI Agency
Last Updated: August 31, 2010 2:00am

Walgreens is the largest pharmacy chain in the U.S.
It's also corrupt.

OK< we're so 'debate conscious' these days, round here. Whadya think??


:3some:

Typical hare brained reactions by "loose cannons" driven by emotions & various ulterior motives instead of reason. Tarsands could probably use some "cleaning up", but it's not up to a drug store to be sticking their nose into it.
 

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Forest Ethics and their parent company are as ethically bankrupt as the nations/regions like China and the ME that they refuse to engage directly.
The funny part is, Forest Ethics, like many other anti groups, disapprove of the use of furs, and hunting.

While I try to use everything I can from a kill, for moccasins, tools and food. They wear running shoes, made in substandard conditions, out of materials made from the products from places like the tar sands.

You have got to love that kind of hypocrisy.
 

CDNBear

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... not to mention being made in sweatshops using 3rd world labour, often children...
Yep...

But hey, what do I know, I shot Bambi's Mom. I'm just this side of Adolf.

Seriously.

I once participated, foolishly, in an mail group on anti hunting. When I started asking everybody what shoes they wore, no one saw the next email coming.

The semi valid claims of the assault on nature by tanning companies, turned to personal attacks and death threats, when I pointed out the 20 year old moccasins I have, have done less damage to the environment then just one pair of their shoes.

I have no respect for that kind of hypocrisy.

These groups have as much credibility as a politician.
 

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The funniest part is that the Gap, etc., can't possibly boycott our oil. How would they get goods to and from Edmonton (and I believe Gap has one in Grande Prairie now) if they don't fill their trucks? And no, we don't have any 'oil sands free' gas stations nearby.
 

CDNBear

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The funniest part is that the Gap, etc., can't possibly boycott our oil. How would they get goods to and from Edmonton (and I believe Gap has one in Grande Prairie now) if they don't fill their trucks? And no, we don't have any 'oil sands free' gas stations nearby.
Maybe they'll fly it or wish it in.
 

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The funniest part is that the Gap, etc., can't possibly boycott our oil. How would they get goods to and from Edmonton (and I believe Gap has one in Grande Prairie now) if they don't fill their trucks? And no, we don't have any 'oil sands free' gas stations nearby.

Not to mention a lot of their customers might boycott them so then they won't need gas - end of problem. :lol::lol::lol:
 

Nuggler

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I think it's another fine example of the moral and ethical bankruptcy of left progressives.


WTF, Bear.!! It's not about the left or right. It's about the hypocrites boycotting the oil sands, whilst their own closets have skeletons.

Written in a paper which is maybe just to the left of Ayn Rand.

8O..........oh, left progressives........I gets ya.
 

CDNBear

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WTF, Bear.!! It's not about the left or right. It's about the hypocrites boycotting the oil sands, whilst their own closets have skeletons.
My point exactly.

You won't find many, if any right progressives in groups like Forest Ethics. So it is pertinent.

Written in a paper which is maybe just to the left of Ayn Rand.

8O..........oh, left progressives........I gets ya.
Do you really?
 

Nuggler

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The funny part is, Forest Ethics, like many other anti groups, disapprove of the use of furs, and hunting.

While I try to use everything I can from a kill, for moccasins, tools and food. They wear running shoes, made in substandard conditions, out of materials made from the products from places like the tar sands.

You have got to love that kind of hypocrisy.


Ken ya make condoms from the intestines of a moose??? the large intestine, eh.:hello1:
 

Nuggler

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No, and no need, SCB's been tied off.


I could use a few. NO moose round here. Well, in Ottywaw, on the outskirts, but only the cops can shoot them.

My point exactly.

You won't find many, if any right progressives in groups like Forest Ethics. So it is pertinent.

Do you really?


Yah, think so.............................

April 15, 2009...12:20 am

101 Freedoms and Rights the Progressive Left Doesn’t Want You to Have

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This was inspired by an exchange on Moonbattery, although for quite a long time I’ve been thinking about this. Left-wing progressives seem to care only about the “freedom” to do whatever they want to whoever they want in the bedroom. Once you step outside the bedroom, most every aspect of your life should be subject to the iron hand of the progressive state:

  1. The Freedom to keep what you earn and spend it as you please.
  2. The Freedom to take risks, and live with the consequences.
  3. The Right to participate in the political process by donating money to causes you support (like Proposition 8 in California) without being harassed by radicals
  4. The Freedom to work in a shop without belonging to a union.
  5. The Freedom to use a secret ballot when voting to unionize.
  6. The Freedom to express conservative opinions on talk radio.
  7. The Freedom to express conservative opinions as an invited speaker on a college campus.
  8. The Freedom to express conservative opinion on the internet.
  9. The Freedom to debate whether disparities in achievement among races and sexes is a product of genetics.
  10. The Freedom to question whether Global Warming is really happening.
  11. The Freedom to earn a market salary in the Financial Services industry.
  12. The Freedom not to be pressed into involuntary service to the state.
  13. The Freedom to purchase and drive an SUV or any other vehicle you choose.
  14. The Freedom to own a pickup truck.
  15. The Freedom to wear fur, leather, or other material made of a formerly living creature.
  16. The Freedom to hire whoever you want to work for you.
  17. The Freedom to fire an employee for any reason, or for no reason at all.
  18. The Freedom to rent a property you own to the person or persons of your choice.
  19. The Freedom to use your own property in whatever way that you may choose.
  20. The Freedom to earn a living by logging, ranching, fishing, or any other activity they don’t approve of.
  21. The Freedom to take risks with your own investments.
  22. The Freedom to keep the profits of your investments.
  23. The Freedom to join with others to criticize a politician within 30 days of an election.
  24. The Right to own a firearm.
  25. The Right to own a firearm arbitrarily designated as an “assault weapon.”
  26. The Right to use a firearm in defense of your home and loved ones.
  27. The Right to carry a firearm in public for your own defense.
  28. The Right to purchase ammunition for your firearm.
  29. The Freedom to discuss a military career with a recruiter at a public school or university, as well as the right to participate in ROTC.
  30. The Freedom to eat food made with transfats.
  31. The Freedom to smoke tobacco (but not marijuana, explain that to me.)
  32. The Freedom of a business to decide for itself whether it wants to be smoke-free.
  33. The Freedom for adults between the ages of 18 to 21 to consume alcoholic beverages
  34. The Freedom to purchase health care in a free market.
  35. The Freedom to publicly celebrate a Christian holiday.
  36. The Freedom to lead others of your faith in voluntary public prayer.
  37. The Freedom to hold a Bible study group in a public school.
  38. The Freedom to discuss the relationship between terrorism and Islam.
  39. The Freedom to choose a school for your child.
  40. The Freedom to homeschool your child.
  41. The Freedom for your home-schooled child to use public school facilities paid for with your tax dollars.
  42. The Freedom for male athletes to compete in any sport they want, even if it means there are more male athletes than female athletes within a school system.
  43. The Freedom for private schools to compete on an equal footing with public schools.
  44. The Freedom to fire an incompetent public school teacher.
  45. The Right not to have your legitimate vote canceled out by a fraudulent ACORN voter.
  46. The Freedom not to have your property confiscated by the state and given to another entity for higher tax revenue.
  47. The Freedom to develop domestic sources of energy.
  48. The Freedom to use coal-powered electricity.
  49. The Freedom to use nuclear-powered electricty.
  50. The Freedom to set your thermostat at whatever temperature makes you comfortable.
  51. The Freedom to protect your homes, schools, and hospitals from a flood of unassimilated third-worlders through legislation, propositions, and denial of welfare benefits to non-citizens.
  52. The Freedom to travel wherever you please, by any means you choose.
  53. The Freedom to have a private club open only to a membership of your choosing.
  54. The Freedom to operate a business with minimal interference from the state.
  55. The Freedom to discuss whether certain communities are responsible for their own problems.
  56. The Freedom to refuse responsibility for the irresponsible behavior of others and its consequences.
  57. The Freedom to practice work as an obstetrician without the threat of junk-science lawsuits from the likes of John Edwards.
  58. The Freedom to consume as much red meat as you like.
  59. The Freedom to watch news on a network that is not ideologically leftist.
  60. The Freedom to decide for yourself what is news, without the interference of ideological “deciders” (i.e. the editors and producers of television and newspapers).
  61. The Right to protest in front of an abortion mill.
  62. The Right to know whether your minor daughter is seeking an abortion.
  63. The Right to know whether your minor child is getting birth control from the school nurse.
  64. The Freedom to let the public decide the definition of marriage.
  65. The Freedom to light your homes with incandescent lightbulbs.
  66. The Freedom to use toilets that work with a single flush.
  67. The Freedom to use washers, driers, dishwashers, and other appliances that get the job done.
  68. The Freedom to raise your Family with your values, not theirs.
  69. The Freedom to non-abusively discipline your children with corporal punishment.
  70. The Freedom to object to textbooks and library materials in public schools paid for by your tax dollars and made available to your children.
  71. The Freedom to express the opinion that homosexual acts are distasteful, immoral, or unholy.
  72. The Freedom to ban pornography from your community.
  73. The Freedom to raise your children in a porn-free environment.
  74. The Freedom for ranchers to exterminate predators that spread disease and kill livestock.
  75. The Right to protest against the Teleprompter-in-Chief’s Trillion dollar deficits.
  76. The Freedom to publish editorial cartoons with monkeys in them.
  77. The Freedom to teach Huck Finn, Othello or To Kill a Mockingbird, 1984, Silas Marner, Ivanhoe, or other works in a high school class over the objection of ignorant politically correct dumbasses.
  78. The Freedom not to feel guilt about things done to other people, by other people centuries in the past.
  79. The Freedom to pursue private sector alternatives to state-provided services.
  80. The Freedom for religious charities to compete for grants on an equal footing with community-based organizations (shakedown rackets, I mean).
  81. The Right to criticize minority individuals for inferior performance.
  82. The Right of an asthmatic to use an aerosol based inhaler to save his/her life.
  83. The Freedom/Right to hunt animals for food or sport.
  84. The Freedom to advertise junk food.
  85. The Freedom to advertise red meat or dairy products on television.
  86. The Freedom to eat fast food or operate a fast food restaurant.
  87. The Freedom to own a black car or a big screen TV
  88. The Freedom to idle your car.
  89. The Freedom to own certain dog breeds
  90. The Freedom of cowboys to hold rodeos.
  91. The Freedom to enjoy NASCAR races.
  92. The Freedom of blacks, gays, and other minorities to become conservatives or Republicans
  93. The Freedom to critcize Islam.
  94. The Freedom to tell jokes about people of different ethnicities.
  95. The Freedom to tell jokes about people of different sexual proclivities.
  96. The Freedom to tell jokes involving stereotypes of women and minorities. (Note: It’s perfectly OK for a leftist like Jon Stewart, Seth MacFarlane, or Hillary Clinton to do this.)
  97. The Freedom to own jet skis or powerboats.
  98. The Freedom to own a snowmobile or other off-road vehicle.
  99. The Freedom to discuss the possibility, in a public school, that life is not a random evolutionary accident, but designed by a purposeful Creator.
  100. Your Freedom to use or produce whatever amount of harmless carbon dioxide you choose.
  101. The Very Basic Freedom to see the world in a different way than a liberal, progressive, Democrat, fascist does.
  102. (New) Your freedom to keep the housepet of your choice


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Look, Alberta has been strongly underestimating the amount of toxins and heavy metals that are getting into the Athabasca river. Development here must be slowed down.

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  • August 31, 2010 2:07 PM |
High levels of toxic pollutants in Alberta's Athabasca River system are linked to oilsands mining, according to researchers from the University of Alberta, Queen's University and the non-profit group Oceana.

The findings counter the reports by a joint industry-government panel that the pollutant levels are due to natural sources rather than human development.

The new study found that mercury, thallium and other pollutants accumulated in higher concentrations in snowpacks and waterways near and downstream from oilsands developments than in more remote areas.

It also found that levels of the pollutants cadmium, copper, lead, mercury, nickel, silver and zinc exceeded government guidelines for the protection of aquatic life in melted snow or water collected near or downstream from oilsands mining.

Read more.

CBC readers eagerly voiced their opinions about this story, posting over 1,000 comments by Tuesday.

Some readers said that this study only confirmed what many already know. "This isn't really 'news,' " Ottawa reader JScanadian wrote. "Unfortunately, many Canadians have just been choosing to ignore it. I think it's safe to say we all know the oil sands are not even remotely environmentally sound, and I also think it's safe to say that the Conservative government could care less."

Others questioned the objectivity of Regional Aquatic Monitoring Program, or RAMP, the joint industry-government environmental body that monitors water in the Athabasca River.

"Obviously, corporations policing themselves does not work," wrote TheOtherHand, a user from Edmonton. "That our government had a hand in the coverup should surprise nobody. All joint corporate-government environmental impact studies are suspect. Our representatives are representing someone, but it ain't us."

At least one reader seemed to be defending Alberta's oilsands against criticism, pointing out that it they are no more harmful than other mines. "All mines that I am aware of create pollution," wrote blueskies. "I am curious why all the attention on the oilsands when each and every state/province/country has some form of mine."

While many commenters advocated shutting down oilsands development, one reader kept a more optimistic approach. "The oilsands aren't pretty, but there is a lot of effort being expended to make them more environmentally friendly (if one would take the time to do the research)," wrote scaramouche from Calgary. "The extraction of oil from this area is a relatively new process, when compared to conventional oil, and solutions to the problems won't be developed overnight, but they will be discovered."
 

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Look, Alberta has been strongly underestimating the amount of toxins and heavy metals that are getting into the Athabasca river. Development here must be slowed down.

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The Athabasca river has flowed directly through the oil-saturated sands for thousands of years, possibly millions of years. The down-stream effects have existed for just as long... Forwarding the uneducated comments by those that are susceptible to emotionally-charged media hype and the likes of ecotards like Forest Ethics are nothing more than parrots of unsubstantiated rhetoric.