Not a bump but 1960 is the correct answer. Very odd but she looks not all that much younger at the site that had that info. Bay of Pigs all the way up to today. Wonder what her journals are worth these days in Washington?
Still no photo's yet, perhaps she was too hot for the day. Even JFK could fall for a pretty face.
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and since I did bump it
She's on the ball enough to change her mind if she spent an afternoon with her new bosses wife. The same can't be said for 'the other-side' last spokesperson I heard that made me cringe was when this guy was mentioning Jerusalem being attacked by Saddam .... no ..... no ..... I mean Iran. Within the next whole 5 sentences it's back to being Saddam's but it was flawless so no retakes. I didn't know what to do laugh, cringe, or shiver, so I did all 3 and then I laughed again, I'm still on that one and the occasional shake of the head.
Love to see here on a PPV taking on the 'old bosses', a great choice for a role as a 'retired' General
for the 'little ones' when it comes to the to blinded Israel and relative of the same mother Eve.
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
First of all, while some Arabs were evicted from their land, a great many either fled because of the urging of the Arab nations invading, or simply because of reasonable fear in a war zone.
Secondly, you are completely incorrect over Jewish evictions. While some Jews left the host Arab countries voluntarily, most were forced out, and had their assets seized on the way.
The two situations are very much the same........except there are no Jewish refugee camps, because Israel took in their people and helped them settle, while the Arab nations continue to viciously abuse the Palestinians, to use them as a propaganda tool and a ready source of third party cannon fodder against Israel.
There will NEVER be a return of refugees. Full stop.
A few minor points I would like some clarity on. You have just defined 'some' as being the number of Arabs that were displaced between the full year starting in Nov of 1948. That was the ones who could be counted, that does not count the ones how died. Declaration of the right to return included certain 'confessions' and agreements. Very close to what the UN stipulated the new Jewish population was to agree to when it declared itself a Nation. Palestine could not do that until the upcoming court cases were heard in full and all the fine print had been explained in full (over $12 M in legal costs) . I think Canada had that part put in as the way is worked out was something we had tried and it didn't work out all that well because we let some of the conquered (by a vote of 33 people, most of whom go by the rules that on constitutional matters we have to have all voters vote one-by-one when it comes to our constitution. We have to treat other Nations the same way. Mess with Palestine and all the voters decide if it is 'yes' or 'no'. I can't find a result for that vote either.
Compare the plight of Israel/Palestine to Canada and Old Europe and the First Nations. War - Treaties and agreements signed --- whole lot of not very productive time for both sides -- attempts at reaparing all that not very productive time --- still fine tuning that end.
That took a lot of years. Palestine shouldn't have to go through that but so far the tracts match exactly. This is all during the war stage, their plight once the papers are signed is yet to start.
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