UN nuclear watchdog puts pressure on Israel

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CBC News - World - UN nuclear watchdog puts pressure on Israel

The UN atomic watchdog is asking for international input on an Arab-led push to have Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, a move that adds to pressure on the Jewish state to disclose its unacknowledged nuclear arsenal.

Israel, in turn, is suggesting efforts should focus instead on giving teeth to the nuclear treaty to prevent signatories like Iran from acquiring such weapons.

On Wednesday, The Associated Press disclosed that International Atomic Energy Agency chief Yukiya Amano had sent a letter soliciting proposals from the agency's 151 member states on how to persuade Israel to sign the treaty.

And the world's five recognized nuclear-weapons powers — the U.S., Russia, Britain, France and China — affirmed the goal of a nuclear-free Middle East.

A string of Israeli officials, including a spokesman for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the minister of atomic energy, the deputy minister of foreign affairs, the minister of strategic threats and the minister of communication, all refused to comment on the recent developments.

The latest pressure is putting Israel in an uncomfortable position. It wants the international community to take stern action to prevent Iran from getting atomic weapons, while it brushes off calls to come clean about its own nuclear capabilities.....

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Well it's about damn time someone notices the Israeli hypocrisy.
 

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It wants the international community to take stern action to prevent Iran from getting atomic weapons, while it brushes off calls to come clean about its own nuclear capabilities.....

You have a nation who wants to destroy another nation so you go after the other nation to disarm but not the nation who wants to do the destroying.

Right?
 

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This is crap. The real problem here is that Israel is fighting for the right to simply EXIST and no matter what they do, they get dumped on. Israel did not create nukes (if they have them) with the intention of using them on the middle east (in case you hadn't noticed, they'd wipe themselves out too if they used them). Iran on the other hand would have no problem doing this. Why? Because killing themselves in the process of killing infidels gets them a golden ticket to paradise and 70 virgins!
 

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This is crap. The real problem here is that Israel is fighting for the right to simply EXIST and no matter what they do, they get dumped on. Israel did not create nukes (if they have them) with the intention of using them on the middle east (in case you hadn't noticed, they'd wipe themselves out too if they used them). Iran on the other hand would have no problem doing this. Why? Because killing themselves in the process of killing infidels gets them a golden ticket to paradise and 70 virgins!
72 actually. Israel isn't in Iran and Iran doesn't recognize Israel, so what's the big deal?
 

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Israel has no nuclear weapons, no one has ever confirmed a nuclear test by Israel. It is just like Saddam and his WMD's, they don't exist.
 

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You have a nation who wants to destroy another nation so you go after the other nation to disarm but not the nation who wants to do the destroying.

Right?

Considering Israel has posed the greatest risk to its neighbors, and has continually attacked, invaded and taken land that isn't theirs, among other things..... and they're more of a threat then say Iran who some suspect they're building nukes (though no proof still to confirm such a claim) for reasons many claim are because Israel has nukes in the first place and are threatened by them.

Hypothetically speaking, if Israel wasn't so damn aggressive and didn't have nukes in the first place, chances are things would be a hell of a lot more calmer over there.

But your deflection still doesn't excuse the fact that Israel has nukes, doesn't divulge the details of their stock piles, hasn't signed any treaties themselves, has free range over what they do and what they have..... and is finger pointing at other countries possibly seeking nukes saying they should be stopped.

It seriously couldn't get anymore hypocritical then that, and as far as everybody is concerned, Iran is still technically following along the lines of the treaty they signed.... which allows them to develop nuclear technology (which they are) but not nuclear weapons (no evidence)

If Israel wishes other nations to be nuclear free and for the international community to give them sympathy, they should make the first move and sign the treaty and remove their stock piles.

If anybody decides to make the argument that their nukes are somehow protecting them from attack, yer full of shat, because Gaza and the West Bank obviously don't care about their nukes and fighting between them & Israel still occurs.

Keep in mind that to this date while Iran has yet to attack another nation, it's Israel and the US who continually balk about attacking Iran, bombing them back to the stone ages, interfere in their politics, toss unfounded sanctions on them, etc. etc..... both Israel and the US have nukes.... thus if I was Iran, I imagine I'd consider getting some nukes for defense as well and feel fully justified in doing so.

But since I am not Iran and since there is not current evidence they are working on nukes, that's only an opinion on my part.
 

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This is crap. The real problem here is that Israel is fighting for the right to simply EXIST and no matter what they do, they get dumped on. Israel did not create nukes (if they have them) with the intention of using them on the middle east (in case you hadn't noticed, they'd wipe themselves out too if they used them). Iran on the other hand would have no problem doing this. Why? Because killing themselves in the process of killing infidels gets them a golden ticket to paradise and 70 virgins!

Well that would make all kinds of wonderful sense, if Iran ever had a history of attacking or invading other nations in the first place like Israel or the US :roll:

And if Israel would wipe themselves out if they used their nukes.... why have them in the first place then? Why not get rid of them and sign the treaty if they're that counter productive?
 

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IRAN INVADES IRAQ

national | miscellaneous | news report
Wednesday February 19, 2003 05:13
by Najmeh Bozorgmehr and Guy Dinmore http://www.indymedia.ie/report_post...editor+to+easily+remove+the+offending+content
THOUSANDS OF PUPPET FORCES START TO OCCUPY NORTHERN IRAQ IN PREEMPTIVE WAR
Iranian officials insist that force's role in the north is defensive but its presence will exacerbate the concerns of the US and especially the Arab world that military intervention in Iraq will lead to a permanent disintegration of the country. Through inserting a proxy force, Iran is underlining that it cannot be ignored in future discussions over Iraq's make-up. http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1045510848273&p=1012571727088
Iranian-backed forces cross into Iraq
By Najmeh Bozorgmehr in Tehran and Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: February 18 2003 21:48 | Last Updated: February 19 2003 1:43


Iranian-backed Iraqi opposition forces have crossed into northern Iraq from Iran with the aim of securing the frontier in the event of war, according to senior Iranian officials.

The forces, numbering up to 5,000 troops, with some heavy equipment, are nominally under the command of Ayatollah Mohammad Baqir al-Hakim, a prominent Iraqi Shia Muslim opposition leader who has been based in Iran since 1980 and lives in Tehran. A US State Department official said he was aware of reports that part of Ayatollah Hakim's Badr brigade had crossed into northern Iraq but declined further comment. Analysts close to the administration of President George W. Bush said the US was concerned about the intentions of this new element in an increasingly complicated patchwork of forces in northern Iraq.
IRAN INVADES IRAQ - Indymedia Ireland

Iran "invaded" part of Iraq, according to Iraqi officials. Iranian troops siezed an oil field north of Basra last night, and have been entrenching ever since. A likely motive for the incursion is Iran's unwillingness to see Iraq's rich oil reserves getting sold off to foreign companies, thus supplanting Iran's lofty position in the petroleum economy.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/iran-invades-iraq-oil-field-siezed-disputed-territory-2541082.html

Iran's Proxy Hizbollah Invades Israel - Atlas Shrugs


 

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Well that would make all kinds of wonderful sense, if Iran ever had a history of attacking or invading other nations in the first place like Israel or the US :roll:
History of IRAN (PERSIA)

And if Israel would wipe themselves out if they used their nukes.... why have them in the first place then? Why not get rid of them and sign the treaty if they're that counter productive?
Good question.
 

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The indigenous Israeli lobby comes out in force anytime their pet genocidal maniacs might be asked to respect some law. The place is a nest of organized crime organized by slime,the rest of the planet should say, pull it.
 

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And if Israel would wipe themselves out if they used their nukes.... why have them in the first place then? Why not get rid of them and sign the treaty if they're that counter productive?

It's called, if we lose everyone loses. It's a good deterrent methinks.
 

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Israel has had nucleur weapons since about 1969. Israel has never used nukes, and has never even threatened to use nukes, despite being in very serious trouble in the early stages of the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

In other words, Israel has proven to be a responsible nucleur power........as would be expected of a democratic western nation.........

Iran, on the other hand, is ruled by loonies.

The difference between allowing Israel to have nukes and allowing Iran to have nukes is the difference between allowing the mature, upstanding gentleman down the street to have a shotgun.............and allowing the neighbourhood 15 year old nutbar that cuts himself, threatens his neighbours, and beats up his sisters to have a shotgun.
 

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Israel cannot trust any country, UN, let alone lose even one major battle.

I don't think people should trust Israel, either.

Not that they're likely to start a nuclear war, but the Israeli secret service doesn't hesitate to spy on and pull dirty tricks on even their allies (like the US, or using British and Canadian passports for their assassination teams).

So I don't think we should all assume that Israel is some innocent country. Israel has one mission: to save Israel, at the cost of anyone and everyone else who might be used to further that end. And make no mistake about it, North America is certainly expendable if the Israeli gov't feels it necessary.
 

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I don't think people should trust Israel, either.

Not that they're likely to start a nuclear war, but the Israeli secret service doesn't hesitate to spy on and pull dirty tricks on even their allies (like the US, or using British and Canadian passports for their assassination teams).

So I don't think we should all assume that Israel is some innocent country. Israel has one mission: to save Israel, at the cost of anyone and everyone else who might be used to further that end. And make no mistake about it, North America is certainly expendable if the Israeli gov't feels it necessary.
Their secret service has always only gone after people or groups who waged some sort of war against them. They are ruthless I will say that about them. If we went to war against them I would expect nothing less from Israel than to do what ever it could to save itself. That is one of the things I do respect about them. As you said, they will do what ever is necessary to protect themselves. They did try the UN once and the UN let them down.
 

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Their secret service has always only gone after people or groups who waged some sort of war against them. They are ruthless I will say that about them. If we went to war against them I would expect nothing less from Israel than to do what ever it could to save itself. That is one of the things I do respect about them. As you said, they will do what ever is necessary to protect themselves. They did try the UN once and the UN let them down.
Says a lot for the sailers on the Liberty.

When anybody else does it (if anybody did that is) it would be classified as a terrorist activity.

Any thoughts on the 'donations' back to US Government officials through the Israeli Lobby that is most likely a cash donation from the US Taxpayers gift to them?