have far too much power. In Ireland they had more power than in Canada, But this legal status thing I hope becomes a big problem for them.
The Vatican is like a corporate head office as the people they hire are just employees. These employees are not born in the Vatican like regular citizens of a country, they come and go. There are no generations of descendants here, passing on the customs through families and marriage and every other country or nation.
They are not like a country or nation at all and Canada should cut relations with them because they operate just like a corporation.
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Is the Vatican a State or a Head Office?
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I joined Simon McGarrís show the Papal Nuncio the door (external - login to view) Facebook campaign last night. No matter how Brian Cowen tries to fudge it (external - login to view), the Vatican has been a disgrace on child abuse from beginning to end. I agree that the primary responsibility for abuse lies within Ireland (external - login to view). The abuse took place in an atmosphere where the state had ceded total power over children to an unaccountable group (which, by the way, places Ireland in the sad and grubby tradition of Eastern Bloc countries when it comes to childcare). But that doesnít mean that responsibility canít be identified elsewhere too (external - login to view), especially when the Church, from top to bottom, actively pursued a policy of favouring their reputations and incomes over any consideration of child welfare.
Actually, thatís not fair to people who care about reputations. My sense is that the Church didnít at all feel that its reputation was threatened. In order to fear for your reputation you must first be cogniscent of the shameful nature of your act. I havenít seen any evidence that the senior figures in the church felt an ounce of guilt when they moved priests on to pastures new (well, until they were caught (external - login to view)). So letís call the Bishopsí cover-up an attempt to maintain a self-regulatory regime in order to maximise the rents accruing from the running of Irelandís welfare system and in order to maintain a grip on the polity so they could continue to shape the state towards their own benefit. Strange how their ideological ends tended to coincide with their own profits (external - login to view).
Anyway, back to the Nuncio. I think itís important to recognise that in booting the Papal Nuncio out, as well as expressing displeasure over his attitude towards the investigation into abuse, we would also be rethinking the character of the Church and of religion in Irish law. The Catholic Church, in deed or in claim, is more like a multinational company than a state and Ė whatís more Ė it seems to regard the trappings of statehood as little more than a convenient corporate veil, to be trotted out in response to any threat that local liabilities might drag head office into the fray (external - login to view).
As things stand, the Church is an organisation whose members have a primary duty to a sovereign state and who work for that state. But, for what itís worth, the Vatican stateís territory is quite a bit smaller (external - login to view), if prettier, than the office space occupied by the Microsoft Campus in Redmond (external - login to view). The organisation is run as a global enterprise. The only trappings of statehood that are applied are those relating to diplomacy: as a state the Vatican is essentially a free-standing Foreign Office that only represents itself. Maintaining the fiction that the Irish Church is an arm of a state or is subject to that stateís rule is like saying that a clump of bog oak is a forest. Itís high time we stopped treating the Vatican like a state and started treating it more like we do McDonalds: if they want to operate here then they should be subject both to whatever level of regulation and taxation we deem appropriate. If people want to pursue their religious predilictions through the church thatís fine. But that doesnít mean that the Irish state has to pretend that the Catholic Churchís executives are really diplomats, heads of state or what have you. If we Irish state inquiries seek information it should be forthcoming through policing channels. If the Vatican doesnít like that, it can withdraw its representatives and cease trading in Ireland.
Letís end the fiction and completely withdraw all diplomatic recognition from the Vatican. Or rather, oh to be from a country where that happened.