A New Gestapo???

[givpeaceachance]

I found this on another site and I sure hope that this isn't what they're saying it is because this is such a bad idea!

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol

HAT TIP to NoisyRoom.net
By: Terresa Monroe-Hamilton
With Obama, always, always look at the other hand…
Yesterday, it was brought to my attention by Pierre Legrand that President Obama signed an Executive Order on December 17th that no one and I mean no one, reported on. Cue the crickets… As horrifying as the health care legislation is and I personally believe it is worthy of revolt, this Executive Order has the potential to be monstrous.
Here is the Executive Order:

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
December 17, 2009
Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425
EXECUTIVE ORDER
- – - – - – -
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA
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Nudge, nudge folks… This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it. Let’s look at the section from Executive Order 12425.
Here’s the text of 2(c), which this Executive Order now has applying to Interpol:

(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.
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This now says that Interpol is no longer subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Their premises or staff can no longer be searched either. Their files are not subject to legal subpoena or discovery. Our government could just hand documents and files over to Interpol and Americans would no longer have access to them. Interpol can legally keep files now on all citizens of the US with no right to redress.
In reality, we have just handed over our sovereignty. Interpol headquarters in the US is currently headquartered in the Department of Justice. A ‘separate’ Interpol agency has been created in the DOJ – let that sink in for a moment. Interpol has been granted diplomatic immunity now by Obama – they have exemption from being subject to search and seizure by law enforcement, US taxes and immunity from FOIA requests, etc. This action could also be used to divulge American military secrets and a whole host of horrific practices having to do with going after our military. It’s the road to internationalism on steroids.
I contend this is the foundation for an international governing and policing body. A modern day SS here in the US if you like. Remember how Obama wanted to create a civilian police force? Well, it’s here, just from a direction I never saw it coming from. I really believe you will see Interpol police forces on US soil in the near future. It will resemble the Gestapo and their intelligence gathering techniques. This police force would not be subject to our normal Constitutional oversights – remember, no search and seizure etc. You have to admire the evil genius behind all this. Just stunning.
For a great overview of all this, listen to Steve Schippert’s radio broadcast:
http://takethatradio.com/index.php/2009/12/22/the-steve-schippert-show-december-22-2009/
The Patriot Room also has a great article: Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands

INTERPOL, an international criminal police organization, is now poised to reside above the United States Constitution – in a place of sanctity beyond our FBI, CIA, DIA, and all other criminal investigatory domestic organizations.
President Obama has just placed our Constitutional rights under international law.
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Paul Dickopf in SS Uniform. Interpol President in the early 1970s.
Garry Hamilton has this to say:

It is well to know who these people are, and where they’ve been. Though the expression “modern day SS” sounds like a hyperbolic metaphor, an examination of Interpol’s roots shows that it is, in fact, more literally true than that.
I was in Europe in 1973 when an expose was published, revealing that many, if not all, of the presidents of Interpol from the late 1930s or early ’40s until at least 1972 were Nazi Gestapo and SS officers. Reinhard (”The Hangman”), Heydrich (also head of Nazi SS Intelligence Service) and Gestapo chief Ernst Kaltenbrunner. By 1942 Interpol was consolidated with the Nazi Central Police, run by the Gestapo. As the Nazis invaded cities throughout Europe, police files from each were seized and evidently integrated into Interpol’s files. In 1972 the sitting Interpol President was Paul Dickopf, former Nazi SS officer (SS #337259).
The source on this? The Simon Wiesenthal Center. Simon Wiesenthal is pretty much the most famous of the post-war Nazi hunters, having impressively thorough files.
Interpol isn’t just any old bunch of thugs. They are rooted in one of the most effective and ruthless gang of thugs anywhere, ever.
If there is anything at all that can be done to nullify this Executive Order, it needs to be done soonest.
The idea of an American President enlisting the aid of both old Communists and old Nazis to bring about the fall of the United States is the stuff of rejected bad novel plots. No one would ever buy a plot that cheesy. I mean, really, would you go see a movie about a President who rose to power through voter fraud and union thuggery, and then brought in the survivors of the two most virulent enemies the country has ever had in order to deliver the knock-out punch to our culture and nation?
No, you wouldn’t. It would be the stupidest piece of modern fiction on record. It’s totally unbelievable as a story line.
Yeah, it’s really lame fiction.
It makes for even worse reality.
Interpol are not the good guys. Nothing good can come from giving them any domain at all in our country.
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And Garry is so very right…


Before we let you go, I want to remind you of some of the ‘civilian army’ items that we have showcased before:


[There is a Fox video that goes here but I can't seem to get it on this post. You can check it from the link. It's an overly dramatic guy from Fox News but he does ask some good questions.]


YouTube - Militant BLACK Obama Youth Group: Let's SCARE the **** out of WHITE Grandma?


YouTube - Obama Youth Brigade TV Advertisement is very scary


Remember, Obama did this while no one was looking and while they were distracted. No media outlet is looking into it. No one is ringing alarm bells. This is happening and it is here. The Trojan Horse of health care for all was definitely a pig with lipstick. The Interpol Executive Order is a shiny Trojan Horse that has the potential to grind America beneath Obama’s bootheel…


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What are your thoughts about the US having a civilian national security force? And what would that mean for Canada? Would we be next? Because I really, really, really hope not!!!!!!! What do they need a CNSF for? If this is true and it actually happens then this is some messed up stuff that the world doesn't need. The biggest question I have about this is WHY?

 

[Nuggler]

:-| OH for ****'s sake:angry3:

 

[givpeaceachance]

What?? Are you talking about me or the article?

 

[Francis2004]

Now correct me if I am wrong.. But this is an amendment to an Executive Order ( 12425 ) dated June 16, 1983.. That would have been during Ronald Reagan time ???

So we are worried about something that has been in place for ohhhhhhhhhhh 26 1/2 years ????

 

[givpeaceachance]

No. Did you read the article? It's about possibly seeing Interpol police forces on US soil in the near future. A civilian national security force. The videos show youth willing and ready. Did you read the article?

 

[Francis2004]

No. Did you read the article? It's about possibly seeing Interpol police forces on US soil in the near future. A civilian national security force. The videos show youth willing and ready. Did you read the article?

Yes I watched the Video and read the article.. All of it is piece together to look as if conspiracy is going on..

Did you bother to do a web search on the title of your posts.. There are 10 pages ( full length ) with hits of all sorts on the topic..

Yes the Executive Order is real.. Did you find it.. I did..

Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425 | The White House

 

[givpeaceachance]

That's great that you know how to search a title but can you explain what it all means? You're saying that this article was pieced together to make it look like it's a conspiracy and I think that you're dismissing the article. Why?

It's trying to explain what O's part in amending the order means. If you can glean something that the article fails to mention would you do so? Because honestly what this implies is rather disturbing.

 

[earth_as_one]

The Canadian government can collect information on Americans. Do Americans have a right to access this information?

Another way to interpret your view point is that you believe the US is a higher authority than Interpol and therefore Interpol is subject to American laws. How about Canada? Is our government also subject to American Law like Interpol?

 

[givpeaceachance]

The Canadian government can collect information on Americans. Do Americans have a right to access this information?
I'm guessing not? But I think people should have a right to any info about themselves no matter who has it.

Another way to interpret your view point is that you believe the US is a higher authority than Interpol and therefore Interpol is subject to American laws.
I don't think that you are understanding what I personally think because I have heard of Interpol before but didn't really know what it was about. I really should look it up but what it's saying in the article is that Interpol is an international criminal police organization comprised of SS Nazi officers and gestapo's. It says " By 1942 Interpol was consolidated with the Nazi Central Police, run by the Gestapo. As the Nazis invaded cities throughout Europe, police files from each were seized and evidently integrated into Interpol’s files. In 1972 the sitting Interpol President was Paul Dickopf, former Nazi SS officer (SS #337259).
The source on this? The Simon Wiesenthal Center. Simon Wiesenthal is pretty much the most famous of the post-war Nazi hunters, having impressively thorough files.
Interpol isn’t just any old bunch of thugs. They are rooted in one of the most effective and ruthless gang of thugs anywhere, ever. "
And the article says that the Interpol is not subject but immune to American laws.

How about Canada? Is our government also subject to American Law like Interpol?

I don't know the answer to that but I would like to know.

My question was that if the US had the Interpol organization policing them, what would that mean for us? I'm wondering because I have read about Nazi Germany and what the gestapo were like. I just don't think it would be good for anyone to have the Interpopo plucking people from the street and throwing them in jail or worse because they thought you looked wrong.

I don't know. I just see many things going wrong with this. Why am I the only one?

 

[damngrumpy]

Interpol is not a paramilitary force, in many cases the cooperate with existing police
forces in any country where they are investigating international organized crime.
Personally I think its great they will have the power to actually do something about
the pitiful excuses for humanity that suck the life blood out of all kinds of countries.
We need to bring criminals to justice, those who commit crimes across international
borders need to be arrested, their property taken and sold to honest folks and we
need to transport these international criminals from whatever country they are hiding
in and send them to the court that is waiting to prosecute them. America asks for
criminals in other countries every month, they take people from south America and
put them in jails in the United States. Why is it that other countries can't touch Americans, and extradite them to face justice else where? This is long overdue.
Interpol has been in existence for decades, and they are doing a good job, if Americans break the law they should be held accountable like everyone else.
This is somehow an imagined conspiracy, it in fact corrects a wrong, that Ronald
Reagan instituted long ago. Good for Obama.

 

[countryboy]

Interpol is not a paramilitary force, in many cases the cooperate with existing police
forces in any country where they are investigating international organized crime.
Personally I think its great they will have the power to actually do something about
the pitiful excuses for humanity that suck the life blood out of all kinds of countries.
We need to bring criminals to justice, those who commit crimes across international
borders need to be arrested, their property taken and sold to honest folks and we
need to transport these international criminals from whatever country they are hiding
in and send them to the court that is waiting to prosecute them. America asks for
criminals in other countries every month, they take people from south America and
put them in jails in the United States. Why is it that other countries can't touch Americans, and extradite them to face justice else where? This is long overdue.
Interpol has been in existence for decades, and they are doing a good job, if Americans break the law they should be held accountable like everyone else.
This is somehow an imagined conspiracy, it in fact corrects a wrong, that Ronald
Reagan instituted long ago. Good for Obama.

DG - I agree. I'm not an expert on Interpol but I know they have lacked the "oomph" to be little more than a consultative agency in the past. This should make them more effective in helping to bring "international" criminals to justice.

Never heard of this "Nazi conspiracy stuff" and I don't believe it. I've never seen any indication of it, but I suppose one can interpret change in many different ways. Personally, I think it's much ado about nothing.

 

[FiveParadox]

Sounds like something blown grossly out of proportion, to me.

 

[damngrumpy]

When confronted with big tadoo's about nothing my father used to say

Sounds to me this is much like sheering a pig, there is more noise than there is wool

 

[Kakato]

What?? Are you talking about me or the article?

You,do you even research what you post or just ape crap off the hate sites your handlers post for nubes like you to parrot on the net?

Theres foiler sites where everyone will agree with you,stick to those if your going to push lies and mis information.
Some of us can think for ourselves and dont need tinfoil hatters to educate us.

 

[CDNBear]

Interpol is not a paramilitary force, in many cases the cooperate with existing police
forces in any country where they are investigating international organized crime.
Personally I think its great they will have the power to actually do something about
the pitiful excuses for humanity that suck the life blood out of all kinds of countries.
We need to bring criminals to justice, those who commit crimes across international
borders need to be arrested, their property taken and sold to honest folks and we
need to transport these international criminals from whatever country they are hiding
in and send them to the court that is waiting to prosecute them. America asks for
criminals in other countries every month, they take people from south America and
put them in jails in the United States. Why is it that other countries can't touch Americans, and extradite them to face justice else where? This is long overdue.
Interpol has been in existence for decades, and they are doing a good job, if Americans break the law they should be held accountable like everyone else.
This is somehow an imagined conspiracy, it in fact corrects a wrong, that Ronald
Reagan instituted long ago. Good for Obama.

Well put.

 

[Kakato]

I don't know the answer to that but I would like to know.

My question was that if the US had the Interpol organization policing them, what would that mean for us? I'm wondering because I have read about Nazi Germany and what the gestapo were like. I just don't think it would be good for anyone to have the Interpopo plucking people from the street and throwing them in jail or worse because they thought you looked wrong.

I don't know. I just see many things going wrong with this. Why am I the only one?

Because your paranoid and belong to the rest of the foiler gang who is also paranoid and cant handle facts.
Your godwinism was the first clue that you have nothing to bolster your fearmongering with.

Carry on though,I get a real big kick out of watching paranoid foilers try and convince people that they are all sheeples,I also get a kick out of exposing you peeps for what you are and I'm good at it.;-)
You cant argue with facts and one thing you parafoilers are good at is skewing them and hoping someone wont notice.

Do you know what Interpol is an abbreviation for?
Do you have any idea of how many crimes they have helped solve through world wide cooperation and sharing of data?

Do you ever look at anything without thinking it's a conspiracy of some sort?
Your getting into the game late,I have the transcripts of the NWO on my old pentium1,The rants of your ilk never came to fruition and I see that the same old conspiracy crap is getting spewed again.

 

[darkbeaver]

No you ain't good at it. You're about mid flock. Have another dip, you'll feel better.

 

[countryboy]

When confronted with big tadoo's about nothing my father used to say

Sounds to me this is much like sheering a pig, there is more noise than there is wool

I love the pig example! Ha, ha...:lol: (sorry, off topic...guilty as charged!)

 

[Kakato]

No you ain't good at it. You're about mid flock. Have another dip, you'll feel better.

Anytime you want to debate with facts then let me know and we'll see what you got.

 

[givpeaceachance]

Wow! Kakato, you are pretty mean. I put this up because I was looking for answers and other view points on the subject. If I knew everything about it then I wouldn't need to. I don't know why you got so hostile. You don't even know me and you're calling me all kinds of things.

"your paranoid and belong to the rest of the foiler gang who is also paranoid and cant handle facts. . . I also get a kick out of exposing you peeps for what you are and I'm good at it."

I was looking for answers and hoping to LEARN about it. Not get labeled by aces like you!